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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2081 » by stormi » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:48 pm

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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2082 » by LloydFree » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:49 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Teams shouldn't supermax anyone. Those contract terms are a franchise killer.

You better off losing a star.

I don't agree with that. You can't pay LeBron, Kawhi, Curry, Harden, Giannis and Embiid enough. It's when you start paying the 2nd and 3rd tier guys like Butler and Kemba, is where you mess up.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2083 » by Slacktard » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:49 pm

mksp wrote:If we strike out in FA, some of the blame should probably fall on Simmons & Joel. They're clearly a tier below the NBA upper class at the moment, for different reasons (Joel is just out of shape at least).

If Ben wants to be a superstar he's gonna have to get his shot together.


If Ben had the same work ethic Kawhi had at the start of his career he'd be a top-5 player in the league. No. Your brother DOES NOT COUNT as a shooting coach.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2084 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:50 pm

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mksp wrote:If we strike out in FA, some of the blame should probably fall on Simmons & Joel. They're clearly a tier below the NBA upper class at the moment, for different reasons (Joel is just out of shape at least).

If Ben wants to be a superstar he's gonna have to get his shot together.


If Ben had the same work ethic Kawhi had at the start of his career he'd be a top-5 player in the league. No. Your brother DOES NOT COUNT as a shooting coach.

he's working w/ Jimmy's coach this offseason
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2085 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:50 pm

FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2086 » by FreesFro » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:51 pm

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FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


Absolutley, he can. His per-36 scoring was at 19.7 this year. He's itching for Buddy Hield-like breakout.


That's what I'm saying Kobble. I'd like him on the Sixers eventhough I was ticked he won ROY over Joel.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2087 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:52 pm

mksp wrote:If we strike out in FA, some of the blame should probably fall on Simmons & Joel. They're clearly a tier below the NBA upper class at the moment, for different reasons (Joel is just out of shape at least).

If Ben wants to be a superstar he's gonna have to get his shot together.

Feels like stars view Embiid's Dwight Howard-like personality unfav orably, too.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2088 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:53 pm

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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2089 » by cool93 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Brogdon will be 27 years old early next season. What breakout are we talking about? Paying max to injury prone role player? That would be even worse that Colangelo's moves.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2090 » by mksp » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
mksp wrote:If we strike out in FA, some of the blame should probably fall on Simmons & Joel. They're clearly a tier below the NBA upper class at the moment, for different reasons (Joel is just out of shape at least).

If Ben wants to be a superstar he's gonna have to get his shot together.

Feels like stars view Embiid's Dwight Howard-like personality unfav orably, too.


I think that perception goes away next year after an in-shape and motivated JoJo crushes the league, but at the moment yeah.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2091 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:55 pm

Yeah, I think Brogdon is a hidden gem on this market.

Elite personality and character.
Elite shooting skill.
Emerging creation and scoring repertoire.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2092 » by FireMorey » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:57 pm

cool93 wrote:Brogdon will be 27 years old early next season. What breakout are we talking about? Paying max to injury prone role player? That would be even worse that Colangelo's moves.


Don't get why people want him I mean he's a very solid player, but he's a role player. You don't win titles with guys like Brogdon, especially at mega money. He would be a horrendous signing at 20m+ per.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2093 » by LloydFree » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:57 pm

Arsenal wrote:
FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2094 » by cool93 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Yeah, I think Brogdon is a hidden gem on this market.

Elite personality and character.
Elite shooting skill.
Emerging creation and scoring repertoire.


27years
Played 48 and 64 games last two seasons (and missed playoff games) while playing less that 30 mpg.

He is older and more fragile that Embiid while being a role player. Yeah, throw the max at him :banghead:
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2095 » by Sixerscan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm

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Arsenal wrote:The Lakers lack of depth is comical though. If they sign Jimmy, they'll have only 4 players under contract and will be out of cap room. They'll only have the Room Exception to sign a 3&D PG. Then they need to fill their rest of their team (7-10 roster spots) with vet mins only.

PG Room Ex | vet min | vet min
SG Butler | vet min | vet min
SF Shadow | vet min | vet min
PF Kuzma | vet min | vet min
CE Davis | vet min | vet min

They need to do massive load management for their top 3, but will have no depth to do so. I'm confident that they would have virtually no chance to win a title next year. The year after they'd have the MLE and BAE to add 2-3 bench pieces, so at that point they could be a legit contender.


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SG Butler | Wade
SF LeBron | JR
PF Kuzma | Melo
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2096 » by Sixerscan » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:59 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Yeah, I think Brogdon is a hidden gem on this market.

Elite personality and character.
Elite shooting skill.
Emerging creation and scoring repertoire.

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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2097 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:59 pm

Arsenal wrote:
FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.

Bucks don't generate enough revenue to give contracts to Brogdon and Middleton in the same summer. Especially after upping Bledsoe during the season.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2098 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:00 pm

I think the Bucks will match any offer for Brogdon.

especially w/ Bropez suddenly being one of the better center options on the market.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2099 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:01 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.


Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#2100 » by mhunt » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:02 pm

how much $$$ do you think it would take to sign d'lo?

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