Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread

[Arsenal]

how much $$$ do you think it would take to sign d'lo?

His MAX of $27.2 for sure. If Butler goes that would still leave us with $12M in cap room keeping Tobias' hold on the books. I'd try to sign Danny Green with that.

[Negrodamus]

Yeah, I think Brogdon is a hidden gem on this market.

Elite personality and character.
Elite shooting skill.
Emerging creation and scoring repertoire.

Knees are a ticking time bomb

I thought it was his foot.

[cool93]

I think the Bucks will match any offer for Brogdon.

especially w/ Bropez suddenly being one of the better center options on the market.

Thats the only possible positive about maxing out Brogdon. If Bucks match they are done. Cause you'll never win a title paying almost 30 mln to injury prone role player.

The thing is if they don't match than we are done, lol

[Arsenal]

Malcolm Brogdon's shooting was unsustainably hot last season. I guarantee he shoots worse than that this year.

[Winejk]

I think Harris is a lock to stay with the Sixers, the teams that would want him are capped out or nowhere near being contenders. The Nets are supposedly getting KD and Kyrie, so that's the major threat off the table and the 5th yr secures it for the Sixers. Butler is the one to worry about especially with the Lakers having space and the Rockets moving heaven and Earth.

If you lose Butler you have to go after Kemba or Russell.

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To be honest, if Butler leaves, my preference would be Klay > Kemba >Russell. Even with Klay's injury, the Sixers will likely be a top 4 seed in the east even without him playing a regular season game. Perhaps Klay could come back during the playoffs which would mean there might be some chemistry issues, but Klay's game would be an easier fit to integrate. He can stand and shoot 3s and play defense.

Kemba is good, but he's getting older and his game relies on his quickness, shiftiness and athletic ability.

Russell is not a two way player, and he got taken out of his game by Ben's defense in the playoff series. Granted not every team has a Ben Simmons that can guard Russell, but the fact remains Russell is just a tad too limited for my tastes.

Don't know how realistic Klay is as a target, but that would be my preference.

[FreesFro]

He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

I know he's only 22, but if D'Lo plays like he did against us in the playoffs I don't want him. Shooting a ton, missing a ton. 20+ shots a game, 36/32/85. Not good. I don't need him jacking up 25 shots a game and averaging 20.

[Arsenal]

I think Harris is a lock to stay with the Sixers, the teams that would want him are capped out or nowhere near being contenders. The Nets are supposedly getting KD and Kyrie, so that's the major threat off the table and the 5th yr secures it for the Sixers. Butler is the one to worry about especially with the Lakers having space and the Rockets moving heaven and Earth.

If you lose Butler you have to go after Kemba or Russell.

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To be honest, if Butler leaves, my preference would be Klay > Kemba >Russell. Even with Klay's injury, the Sixers will likely be a top 4 seed in the east even without him playing a regular season game. Perhaps Klay could come back during the playoffs which would mean there might be some chemistry issues, but Klay's game would be an easier fit to integrate. He can stand and shoot 3s and play defense.

Kemba is good, but he's getting older and his game relies on his quickness, shiftiness and athletic ability.

Russell is not a two way player, and he got taken out of his game by Ben's defense in the playoff series. Granted not every team has a Ben Simmons that can guard Russell, but the fact remains Russell is just a tad too limited for my tastes.

Don't know how realistic Klay is as a target, but that would be my preference.

He's completely unrealistic. Klay is staying with the Warriors. It's not even worth discussing.

[Sixerscan]

Yeah, I think Brogdon is a hidden gem on this market.

Elite personality and character.
Elite shooting skill.
Emerging creation and scoring repertoire.

Knees are a ticking time bomb

I thought it was his foot.

This year was his foot but his knees were why he fell in the draft. Got red flagged.

[Winejk]

Malcolm Brogdon's shooting was unsustainably hot last season. I guarantee he shoots worse than that this year.

How likely is it that Milwaukee loses one of Brogdon, Lopez or Middleton? I'd take Lopez as Embiid's backup.

[FreesFro]

Malcolm Brogdon's shooting was unsustainably hot last season. I guarantee he shoots worse than that this year.

Going out on a limb there. 50/40/90 has only happened a dozen times or so. All HOFers or HOFers to be.

[LloydFree]

He's an RFA. We have no chance to get him without MAXing him out. Even then Bucks could match.

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

Butler's max is 32 in the 1st season but is 38 per over the course of 5 years.

[Mik317]

Russell's struggles against us was two fold.

1. He had Ben on him. Not many teams have a Ben and on our squad other teams Bens probably won't stick on Russell
2. Embiid will open up the floor for Russell like Allen couldn't.

basketball is a team sport; his struggles in the Nets series said more about his team than anything

BUT I think him being a knucklehead means Brett won't vouch for him and w/ the Lakers having cap space unless Jimmy goes there, I doubt we are high on the list for him.

[Arsenal]

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

I know he's only 22, but if D'Lo plays like he did against us in the playoffs I don't want him. Shooting a ton, missing a ton. 20+ shots a game, 36/32/85. Not good. I don't need him jacking up 25 shots a game and averaging 20.

The Nets were completely overmatched against a superior team, and he was the #1 option. Here he would be the 2nd or 3rd option on a much better team. Plus the guy is 22 and his stats at that age compare very favorably to guys like Curry, Harden, and Lillard at that age. He's going to get better for the next 5+ years, which is a perfect fit with our 2 young stars.

[Sixerscan]

But Brogdon's max is like 27 million per. Not 38 million like Butler.

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

Butler's max is 32 in the 1st season but is 38 per over the course of 5 years.

And Russell’s max is 27 in the first season but it can raise every year like Butler’s

[Arsenal]

Knees are a ticking time bomb

I thought it was his foot.

This year was his foot but his knees were why he fell in the draft. Got red flagged.

Yeah he played 48 and 64 games the last 2 seasons, and he'll be 27 next season. It's highly likely he has peaked.

[Sixerscan]

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

I know he's only 22, but if D'Lo plays like he did against us in the playoffs I don't want him. Shooting a ton, missing a ton. 20+ shots a game, 36/32/85. Not good. I don't need him jacking up 25 shots a game and averaging 20.

The Nets were completely overmatched against a superior team, and he was the #1 option. Here he would be the 2nd or 3rd option on a much better team. Plus the guy is 22 and his stats at that age compare very favorably to guys like Curry, Harden, and Lillard at that age. He's going to get better for the next 5+ years, which is a perfect fit with our 2 young stars.

Not sure why you are so optimistic that he was fit seemlessly as a 3rd option given how critical you are of Harris? Look at Harris’s numbers with the clippers and compare them to Russell’s

[eyeatoma]

Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.

Absolutley, he can. His per-36 scoring was at 19.7 this year. He's itching for Buddy Hield-like breakout.

Wow lol

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[LloydFree]

Butler's MAX is $32.7M while Brogdon's MAX is $27.2M.

I'm pretty confident the Bucks would match a Brogdon MAX, so we'd be foolish to offer it. Just get D'Lo who is going to be a free and clear UFA instead, is 4 years younger, and a much more gifted scorer.

Butler's max is 32 in the 1st season but is 38 per over the course of 5 years.

And Russell’s max is 27 in the first season but it can raise every year like Butler’s

I'll take D'Angelo Russell at 4 years 115 million, over Butler, at 5 years 190 all day every day.

[Arsenal]

I know he's only 22, but if D'Lo plays like he did against us in the playoffs I don't want him. Shooting a ton, missing a ton. 20+ shots a game, 36/32/85. Not good. I don't need him jacking up 25 shots a game and averaging 20.

The Nets were completely overmatched against a superior team, and he was the #1 option. Here he would be the 2nd or 3rd option on a much better team. Plus the guy is 22 and his stats at that age compare very favorably to guys like Curry, Harden, and Lillard at that age. He's going to get better for the next 5+ years, which is a perfect fit with our 2 young stars.

Not sure why you are so optimistic that he was fit seemlessly as a 3rd option given how critical you are of Harris? Look at Harris’s numbers with the clippers and compare them to Russell’s

I'm not critical of Tobias Harris' fit here. His fit is fine.

What I'm critical of his overall worth as a player. He is highly overrated overall.

[eyeatoma]

If we strike out in FA, some of the blame should probably fall on Simmons & Joel. They're clearly a tier below the NBA upper class at the moment, for different reasons (Joel is just out of shape at least).

If Ben wants to be a superstar he's gonna have to get his shot together.

Feels like stars view Embiid's Dwight Howard-like personality unfav orably, too.

Total speculation. I'd say it's more Simmons arrogance and lack of jumpshot.

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