Underrated Defensive Guards?

[nzahir]

I really wish I stated just FA's or guys maybe on trade block

Looking to see who LAL can get to put as their SG

[Bornstellar]

DeJounte Murray and Derrick White are a nasty underrated defensive tandem

[The_Hater]

Brogdon is really, really good. He can guard 1’s, 2’s and 3’s and was even matched up with Kawhi in the ECF. I don’t think anyone gave Kawhi more trouble in the playoffs.

[yellowknifer]

Delon Wright

[nzahir]

Terrence Ross was underrated this year defensively. He kept the Magic in games on both sides of the ball. Always getting up into the opponent and was constantly tipping the ball loose or out of bounds. A very pesky defender.

Also, an even more underrated defensive guard, Iwundu. He was fantastic last season off the bench on the defensive side of the ball while constantly hustling. Those are the only reasons he was even in the rotation.

I see Ross is actually pretty underrated, not a lockdown guy by any means, but a plus

How much would you pay him per year?

He is already 28, does he even fit the timeline you want?

[blind prophet]

Fox has shown some glimpses of becoming very good defensively.

Everyone knows about his speed, looks like he could become a grade A pest too.

Next season should tell.

[og15]

DeJounte Murray and Derrick White are a nasty underrated defensive tandem

Are they underrated? When have people seen them as a tandem? Most people know each individually, and they are acknowledged as very good individually, and Murray even made All-Defensive 2nd team in 17/18, but White was a rookie in 17-18 and played 17 games / 8.2 mpg, and Murray missed all of this season. There was nothing to underrate, and I believe many have acknowledged that they would love to see that combo together on defense.

[Frank Dux]

avery bradley imo is one of the most underrated players in the league

Bradley has been getting by on reputation for awhile.

[Duke4life831]

Tyus Jones. If he can ever find his 3pt shot again, he is pretty much the perfect PG to pair alongside a ball dominant guard or wing.

[The Real Dalic]

Terrence Ross was underrated this year defensively. He kept the Magic in games on both sides of the ball. Always getting up into the opponent and was constantly tipping the ball loose or out of bounds. A very pesky defender.

Also, an even more underrated defensive guard, Iwundu. He was fantastic last season off the bench on the defensive side of the ball while constantly hustling. Those are the only reasons he was even in the rotation.

I see Ross is actually pretty underrated, not a lockdown guy by any means, but a plus

How much would you pay him per year?

He is already 28, does he even fit the timeline you want?

I would give him up to $15mil, he was important to the Magic's success this season and was the only consistent scorer from off the bench.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

I have no idea if the numbers back it up, but a couple of years ago I was courtside to watch the Bulls and Clippers play and Isaiah Canaan was the most impressive defender on the court. I'd never really noticed watching the games on TV but in person he was getting under Chris Pauls skin by how aggressive he was and how strong he was.

I get the impression he was never great at guarding the faster guards in the league, but against someone like Paul who plays at a slower more measured pace he looked great

Hoiberg seemed to agree to an extent

“(Defensively), he’s really into the ball. … Initially, we wanted to get a guy who is a floor spacer, but he’s shown a lot more than that. Into the ball, he’s been as good as we’ve had.

If he can continue that role and play with that type of intensity at the defensive end, he’s got a chance to play good, quality minutes.”

[Richfield]

Rondo has reached the point where people underrate his value. Much of his value is on defense.

DeAndre Liggins is a defensive guard who may have his shortcomings overall, but he should still be in the league because of that defense, but isn't.

Kyrie doesn't have the motor to be a consistent defensive guard, but when he sucks it up and does it, like in the playoffs, he plays some intelligent defense. Not so much physically, but smart anticipation going for the ball.

JR Smith can hit 3's, and people think that's all he's good for, but his defense is underrated. Will get timely blocks and deflections.

Marcus Smart is so elite at defense, and people know he's good, but I think his overall value is still underrated because defense in general is still underrated.

Last but not least, this topic itself, the value of good defense by a team's guards, underrated. Great thread!

[Jay 20]

Lowry, VanVleet, Powell

This may have been true at one time but it better not be anymore.

I know I'll definitely not underate Lowry and VanVleet

[ElectricMayhem]

Bruce Brown. He kinda doesn't belong here because he's only known for his defense, but he kind of does belong here because nobody knows who he is.

[Richfield]

Bruce Brown. He kinda doesn't belong here because he's only known for his defense, but he kind of does belong here because nobody knows who he is.

[Daddy 801]

Royce O’neale is pretty damn good. Especially at his price tag.

[cupcakesnake]

Josh Okogie, Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, Norm Powell, Derrick White, Gary Harris, Danny Green, Malcolm Brogdon, Cory Joseph, Ricky Rubio, Dejounte Murray

[cupcakesnake]

Rondo has reached the point where people underrate his value. Much of his value is on defense.

DeAndre Liggins is a defensive guard who may have his shortcomings overall, but he should still be in the league because of that defense, but isn't.

Kyrie doesn't have the motor to be a consistent defensive guard, but when he sucks it up and does it, like in the playoffs, he plays some intelligent defense. Not so much physically, but smart anticipation going for the ball.

JR Smith can hit 3's, and people think that's all he's good for, but his defense is underrated. Will get timely blocks and deflections.

Marcus Smart is so elite at defense, and people know he's good, but I think his overall value is still underrated because defense in general is still underrated.

Last but not least, this topic itself, the value of good defense by a team's guards, underrated. Great thread!

- I do not know what you're watching when you watch Rondo play defense. He's been a ball watcher for years now. He can still be plucky in an isolation, but Rondo does way too much standing around not caring to be considered good at defense. He left his defense in Boston, years ago. Also even his last couple years there, post injury, he wasn't good. Now he's considered one of the worst defensive rotation guards in the NBA

- Kyrie isn't a horrible defender, but his lack of defensive intelligence is his weakness no his strength. His pathetic attempts, demanding to guard Giannis and Middleton this playoffs, were embarassing and the final straws that broke Boston. He loves to dig in on an important play, but he's prone to laziness and getting back cut.

- I agree about Liggins, though teams recognize his defensive utility, but still decide they can't really play him much.

- I feel like your scouting reports are a few years out of date, and they focus too much on these guys ability to stop an iso.

- Not sure what JR is up to these days, but his defense was underrated in his prime. His last 2 years in Cleveland less so.

[Gooner]

Klay Thompson.

[Nuntius]

Bruce Brown. He kinda doesn't belong here because he's only known for his defense, but he kind of does belong here because nobody knows who he is.

Detroit.