Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

[Stannis]

Since when did SAS start breaking news? pftt

SAS:

"42% chance KD comes to NY alone. 15% chance KD comes to NY with a second star. Maybe Jimmy Butler. 23% chance Knicks get no free agents. 1% chance Porzingis returns. 10% chance they offer a big 1 year deal to Cousins. I'm hearing Kyrie is reconsidering the Knicks. 5% chance he comes. 4% chance they get Kawhi Leonard."

Monday Morning on first take

SAS: "I told you! Didn't I tell you?

[Jeff Van Gully]

Judging from that, it confirms staying with GS is the wisest choice.

Also, new CBA is in a year or two, right? Maybe there's another amnesty. So we kind of get a freebie to use lol. We could use it on Durant, or maybe the Noah stretch or DSjr (jk 3tohead)

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

[EricAnderson]

My reasoning for wanting KD is this. What other player(outside of Kawhi who isn’t coming) gives us that upside/potential to where if it works out (and he does somehow come back close to his former self) that we can contend in the next 4 years if we put the right pieces around them?

The answer is zero. And if Durant does workout were maybe a piece away.

With a bad free agent class coming up if we don’t sign Durant then who are we building around for the future? We have to pray we get lucky in a lotto in a year a generational talent is available which is pretty rare.

I’d rather have the powerball ticket then play at the quarter slots the next 4 years and hope to win a few hundred dollars at most.

[drekwins]

Since when did SAS start breaking news? pftt

I get what you're saying, but this isn't the right rhetorical question to ask He famously was way out in front of the Lebron to Miami story.

Maybe more like, "how often is SAS actually right when he makes these FA predictions?"

Brah... It's 2019. That was a decade ago.

[GONYK]

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He's anticipating making way more than that off the court in NY

[aq_ua]

For fun, laying it out, KD comes. Then what? Assuming no KL. Do you still go after a "second max", which is unlikely to be KI or KW, so Harris or Butler?

I think KI reluctantly no, KW yes (seems to have good leadership skills and would be good for culture even in a developing season), but seems unlikely. No to the other 2 because not sure Harris is truly a max guy and we'd have a position and defense issue in 2 years with KD Harris Knox. Jimmy B doesn't have those issues, but don't see him loving a down year when he has better win now options. I won't even go down the DLO road.

So no "second max". Make smart long term signings to have a solid team around KD the following 3 seasons, but no guaranteed star? Not going to toss names out. Could work if one of those guys pans out and/or Barrett and/or another youngster blossom.

Sign or take on one year deals? What's the point of those guys won't be around and we have to start all over again next year? Of course, is we get picks or young assets for taking on deals and good players with bird rights, that could be different.

Not even saying don't get KD, but what's the next step in the plan, realistically?

If we get KD, the next step should be to develop the youth next season with ample playing time (to see what we have there), "tank" for a high pick, and take on 1-year deals to get additional picks. Then we can trade for a 2nd veteran all-star at the trade deadline or during the off-season in the hopes of having a contender in place for KD's return so he could be the "cherry on top".

This. We’re not contending for a championship next year regardless, so everything should be about developing the rest of the roster and maintaining flexibility to execute big trades or signing as the opportunity arises. We always flop because we always plan for only one outcome, when in reality, nothing ever goes exactly to plan. Ultimately though, if we sign KD, we will need to add at least one other veteran top tier performer, and hopefully a couple of our younger guys step up to be the third and forth star on the team.

[Stannis]

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

100%. Especially if what these doctors are saying is true.

Though, I wonder if GSW is really going to offer him that max, fully guaranteed? I wouldn't be surprised if they backtrack now. They are already deep in the luxury. They have to offer Klay the max. And they got the new arena.

[drekwins]

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He can get that in NY. You don't think the Knicks will agree to work with GS on a sign & trade using a trade exemption? I guarantee they offer the 5th year at 50 mill.

[GEOLINK]

Judging from that, it confirms staying with GS is the wisest choice.

Also, new CBA is in a year or two, right? Maybe there's another amnesty. So we kind of get a freebie to use lol. We could use it on Durant, or maybe the Noah stretch or DSjr (jk 3tohead)

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

Dolan wipes his ass with $50 million if that’s all it’s gonna take for him to be a Knick.

[mpharris36]

a sobering account from another doc

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/achilles-injury-return-stat-that-should-give-kevin-durant-suitors-pause/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

In explaining why Durant won’t be the same sniper in 2020-21, [Dr. Anish] Kadakia said it’s jumping and speed. The surgically repaired leg regains just 95 percent of the power of the healthy leg.

“When you shoot, you jump,” he said. “You’re [sic] jump is off because you don’t have as much power in one leg than the other. You play your whole career based on how much height and quick reaction you get when you want to shoot. Some can’t do that anymore, no longer able to push off like you were before.

“And speed is heavily affected, making the quick cut. You lose a little of that power, when you want to push off as hard as you want. An elite athlete losing 5 percent power makes big difference.’’

Yup.

Unfortunately, I think we're beyond this. He'll have the offer from us at 6:00:01.

It's just a matter of how close can he be. I'd still take 95% of KD.

yup i believe this had been in the works for a while...big guys like him don't just randomly make decisions and we aren't in a position to rescind that offer. This is the first superstar in a while that in theory wants to come here. If anything even if its a legacy play it should help the young guys and our ability to attrack other players because KD is a generational player even if we won't be getting 100% of KD.

[BowlRips]

SAS on get up said knicks might not get a meeting just a phone call. This **** is just crazy

[Stannis]

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He's anticipating making way more than that off the court in NY

I see what you are saying. But there's a big chance he doesn't return to his usual self, and there's also a chance he won't even return from what doctors are saying.

If he was healthy, I agree. He could make up the difference. But now, I don't think he can. That's why I'm saying take the 5 year in Silicon Valley (if offered).

[bigfnjoe96]

Excuse Brah, It's my turn!!!

[GONYK]

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He can get that in NY. You don't think the Knicks will agree to work with GS on a sign & trade using a trade exemption? I guarantee they offer the 5th year at 50 mill.

Knicks can't give KD a 5th year, even with a S&T

[Jay10]

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He's anticipating making way more than that off the court in NY

People also need to realize these sneaker companies are actually paying the top players in the league more than the teams they play for.

[Stannis]

Why is being less than perfect healthwise in Golden State better than being less than perfect healthwise in NY?

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

Dolan wipes his ass with $50 million if that’s all it’s gonna take for him to be a Knick.

That's some form of tampering and could cost the Knicks 3 first round picks.

[SelbyCobra]

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He can get that in NY. You don't think the Knicks will agree to work with GS on a sign & trade using a trade exemption? I guarantee they offer the 5th year at 50 mill.

[drekwins]

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He can get that in NY. You don't think the Knicks will agree to work with GS on a sign & trade using a trade exemption? I guarantee they offer the 5th year at 50 mill.

Knicks can't give KD a 5th year, even with a S&T

Yes, he could. What makes you think he couldn't?

[GONYK]

a sobering account from another doc

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/achilles-injury-return-stat-that-should-give-kevin-durant-suitors-pause/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Yup.

Unfortunately, I think we're beyond this. He'll have the offer from us at 6:00:01.

It's just a matter of how close can he be. I'd still take 95% of KD.

yup i believe this had been in the works for a while...big guys like him don't just randomly make decisions and we aren't in a position to rescind that offer. This is the first superstar in a while that in theory wants to come here. If anything even if its a legacy play it should help the young guys and our ability to attrack other players because KD is a generational player even if we won't be getting 100% of KD.

It's a clout move on our part, even if KD never plays at the same level again. It gives us credibility.

I think that is worth it to our decision makers.

[Stannis]

just more security in a 5 year contract with the 5th year being 50m.

if i'm KD, unless something is really drawing me to NY personally, i'm taking that $220m.

He can get that in NY. You don't think the Knicks will agree to work with GS on a sign & trade using a trade exemption? I guarantee they offer the 5th year at 50 mill.

KnicksGod said they can't do the 5 year S & T. The last CBA fixed that loophole so stars can't get the max and force their way to a team like LeBron did.

So the Knicks would have to wait till the winter or something, I guess if this is what Durant and the Knicks want.