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Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#241 » by Stannis » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:24 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Kyrie will go to the Lakers. It's been my gut feeling all along. If he does so, KD and Kawhi will go to the Knicks. The 2021 NBA Finals will feature LeBron, Durant, Davis, Kawhi, RJ Barett, and Kyrie all on the same floor. Wow

This sounds like fan-fiction

EDIT: also, fify

Added RJ Barrett the list. ;0
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#242 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:26 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good

Looks a lot better than before. And if it goes in, it goes in.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#243 » by GONYK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:28 pm

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Stannis wrote:Definitely not a risk-less move, but like I've said before, I still give KD the max. :) I think they could rebuild with KD. If there's no KD, I'm hearing names like Randle, Cousins, Rozier, :noway:

It would be a 4 year contract. Knicks can still rebuild with him on the squad, imo. And there's also the chance we get another amnesty clause after the new CBA. So if things really get bad (like Eddy Curry bad and Durant will never play again), Knicks could amnesty him.


every move has some level of risk...we have all our draft picks so we can mitigate some of that risk if he never comes back to full health to continue to develop and build the youth. Thats why I'm still taking that risk.


Yup what else are you going to spend that money on NOW that would net the return KD will if things work out? And lets face it no matter who you spend the money on, in this class, all of the guys will be on a downward trajectory towards the end of the deal except for maybe Tobias/D'Lo/Randle but all those guys come with the concern that they won't be worth the big money in the first place.

I initially was hesitant on signing KD after the achilles thing but it just makes sense to do it and hope because the alternatives probably don't have the same upside and the downside is mostly mitigated by how our team structure is currently set.


Also...what else do we really have going on? What are we going to ruin by taking this chance?
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#244 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good


Release is clean and repeatable. It's his bottom half that's always been the issue. It's why his catch and shoot numbers have always looked way better than his off the dribble jumper numbers. Much easier to fix balance issues than actual release issues.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#245 » by TruthBeTold » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:29 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Here’s Another clip of DSJR today



NBA players usually hits their shots when there is no defense to stop them and they can just stand and shoot. The true challenge is pull up jumpers after moving, shooting off the dribble and of course defense. I'm curious to know how much jumpers DSJ shoots a day? I don't get the impression that he is a hard-worker, but that does not necessarily mean he doesn't put in work everyday. He should be shooting a minimum of a 1000 shots a day; and then he should finish the day with an all star 3 point contest type drill with timer and all. I think he should workout with Curry. This upcoming season for DSJ is major and hard work, determination and shooting confidence will determine his future.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#246 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:30 pm

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drekwins wrote:Since when did SAS start breaking news? pftt


I get what you're saying, but this isn't the right rhetorical question to ask :lol: He famously was way out in front of the Lebron to Miami story.

Maybe more like, "how often is SAS actually right when he makes these FA predictions?"


Or what has he been right about since 2010?


Wouldn't it be hard to tease out since he takes every side on everything? He's been 100% right and 100% wrong. On EVERYTHING.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#247 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:31 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Yep...still passing on KD


KD is coming and you will like it

just like

DSJ is staying and I will have to like it... :lol:


What was interesting is that someone said that DSJ is on the Westbrook path.... I ended up going to Russell's stats and it's not off base. I was going to counter that Westbrook was much better in the paint/at the hoop.... the numbers don't show that. Then, I was going talk about his assist total... but if DSJ was allowed to be a PG in Dallas and was healthy in NY, he could have had great assist numbers as well. In reality, at the same point in their careers, DSJ has shown to be a better shooter both at the hoop and at the 3pt line. This year is going to be absolutely critical for him and will decide his entire future outlook. Same with Frank.


I wouldn't build a team around prime Westbrook, but I also wouldn't say no to Westbrook if he were already on my team.

That may be faint praise, but the comp is legit in terms of the type of players they are and their physical attributes.

If the comp holds up and Smith blossoms, at the very least he becomes a prime tangible asset and for that reason alone I want to feature him this season and see if he grows as a player.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#248 » by Apples » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:32 pm

I don't believe Durant hasn't decided where he's going yet. He's just not talking.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#249 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:32 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good


Release is clean and repeatable. It's his bottom half that's always been the issue. It's why his catch and shoot numbers have always looked way better than his off the dribble jumper numbers. Much easier to fix balance issues than actual release issues.


His footwork needs improvement
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#250 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:33 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good


Plenty of players have odd form to their shooting and are good/great shooters though. I don't see how anyone can watch videos of DSJ or any player and say he has some kind of glitch in his form or release or whatever so he won't be able to shoot at a good percentage. Players do what feels comfortable to them and can make it work for them and some most likely do have to fix whatever that glitch is in their form to become good shooters. A lot of it is more about these guys having confidence in their shot when they release it and being right mentally.

I'm good with giving DSJ this year to see if he can fix his shot and i've been one of the biggest people that isn't a DSJ fan.
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Post#251 » by MaseInYourFace » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:33 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good

Looks a lot better than before. And if it goes in, it goes in.


Still looks kinda flat to me. The way the ball comes off the rim is very telling.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#252 » by MaseInYourFace » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:35 pm

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HerSports85 wrote:Here’s Another clip of DSJR today



NBA players usually hits their shots when there is no defense to stop them and they can just stand and shoot. The true challenge is pull up jumpers after moving, shooting off the dribble and of course defense. I'm curious to know how much jumpers DSJ shoots a day? I don't get the impression that he is a hard-worker, but that does not necessarily mean he doesn't put in work everyday. He should be shooting a minimum of a 1000 shots a day; and then he should finish the day with an all star 3 point contest type drill with timer and all. I think he should workout with Curry. This upcoming season for DSJ is major and hard work, determination and shooting confidence will determine his future.


This looks a lot better than that other clip!!! He needs a lot of reps though!
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#253 » by drekwins » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:35 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I ain’t know this board was full of shooting coaches :lol:


Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good


Plenty of players have odd form to their shooting and are good/great shooters though. I don't see how anyone can watch videos of DSJ or any player and say he has some kind of glitch in his form or release or whatever so he won't be able to shoot at a good percentage. Players do what feels comfortable to them and can make it work for them and some most likely do have to fix whatever that glitch is in their form to become good shooters. A lot of it is more about these guys having confidence in their shot when they release it and being right mentally.


Those guys typically have feel. Those guys are typically already good shooters with awkward form. So, teams don't touch it. If you're in the NBA and show you can't shoot, they will constantly tinker and correct the form until it looks good every time.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#254 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:36 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:
Please tell me you’re not pretending that jumper looks good


Release is clean and repeatable. It's his bottom half that's always been the issue. It's why his catch and shoot numbers have always looked way better than his off the dribble jumper numbers. Much easier to fix balance issues than actual release issues.


His footwork needs improvement


Yes his footwork is all over the place.
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Post#255 » by MaseInYourFace » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:36 pm

A hitch is ok if everything else is ok with the shot. He needs to build a consistent motion though.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#257 » by BallSacBounce » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:36 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Another argument for KD is that if we don’t sign him, we will probably use the money in a worse way. I think the best alternative plan would be to use the money to buy picks and assets but I don’t know if we do that. Sounds like we will just load up on 1 year vets and try to stay competitive. 3 years of KD at 80% is probably a better option then that. With KD sitting out the year, we can probably another top pick in ’20. We could have the start to something….

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With the Mavs picks, cap spaceand some other young players, we should have the assets or cap to pick up another guy…maybe someone like Beal. We could be on our way to something by then


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No we don't have to do that. If we don't sign premium FAs then it's tanks away and you'll like it.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#258 » by drekwins » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:37 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
TruthBeTold wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:Here’s Another clip of DSJR today



NBA players usually hits their shots when there is no defense to stop them and they can just stand and shoot. The true challenge is pull up jumpers after moving, shooting off the dribble and of course defense. I'm curious to know how much jumpers DSJ shoots a day? I don't get the impression that he is a hard-worker, but that does not necessarily mean he doesn't put in work everyday. He should be shooting a minimum of a 1000 shots a day; and then he should finish the day with an all star 3 point contest type drill with timer and all. I think he should workout with Curry. This upcoming season for DSJ is major and hard work, determination and shooting confidence will determine his future.


This looks a lot better than that other clip!!! He needs a lot of reps though!


It's still too leggy. Great forms are simple. Steph is not a normal person. If you look at Klay, Ray Allen, etc., there's so little lower body movement. The lower body needs to provide balance... the same balance every time. That's how you create consistency. Otherwise, your weight is constantly being re-shifted. Redick does a great job with his base.. as did Allan Houston.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#259 » by DE FENSE » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:39 pm

Apples wrote:I don't believe Durant hasn't decided where he's going yet. He's just not talking.


Absolutely. But reporters need to make money and fans have nothing better to do than eat up all the sheeeeit they're serving
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#260 » by Bob Ross » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:40 pm

Just popped over to the Nets board to see how they're handling free agency. Wow it's dead in there, but the 8 Nets fans are super salty about the Knicks. Terrible Napoleon complex

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