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Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#921 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:43 am

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Bob Ross wrote:Why was Knicks Film School kicked off twitter

One of the 5 Net fans (probably NetsDaily) reported him for copyright infringement.


What the actual ****?
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#922 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:47 am

Lowe with a nice take as usual.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#923 » by HerSports85 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:49 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#924 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:50 am

Capn'O wrote:
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Bob Ross wrote:Why was Knicks Film School kicked off twitter

One of the 5 Net fans (probably NetsDaily) reported him for copyright infringement.


What the actual ****?

Yup, he said he got banned because of copyright infringment on his other twitter account.

You can follow him if you want on https://twitter.com/JeffreyBellone
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#925 » by Jimmit79 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:50 am

It went from just nets vs Knicks to welcome back clippers and gsw in the race then we will hear he's meeting Lakers followed by second meeting with gsw gg.

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#926 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:53 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#927 » by MGW33 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:57 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#928 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:59 am

I just want to concur with a number of posters, Cpn'O, AHF and others, that it is utterly pathetic to engineer the exclusion/cancelling/w.e of a valid, even if a little slanted/with interests to promote on which it focuses, informative account. Here, kicksfilmschool.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#929 » by jermsknicks » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:00 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:fizdale is the ultimate salesman so we should be good lol.


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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#930 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:01 am

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Sark wrote:Dennis Smith, the player we got back for KP, had an ACL tear.

But yeah, let's keep perpetrating the myth that KP's injury will haunt him forever.

Good job MSG PR. Get a radio show to spew your agenda.


What's the list of nba bigmen that came back from an ACL and fulfilled their promise?



There's not a lot of bigmen that had it, but many have made full recoveries. Al Jefferson had it.

Now list the players that came back from an Achilles. It's not a long list. It's Dominique Wilkins.

Oh and Durant is 7 feet as well. Only 3 inches shorter than KP, so the whole height thing is moot.


For the record I didn't ask that question as a setup, I asked it because I read your post, really disagreed with "perpetuating the myth that KP's injury will haunt him forever", and since I was at a kids' sporting event I couldn't do the research right then.

I honestly couldn't think of any. And I feel Al Jefferson actually supports my case - that was a young, dynamic bigman who was the centerpiece in the Garnett trade, and had his best season in the one he got hurt. He was on the upswing, and while he came close in later years to the same level of production he posted the year he got hurt, he never fully came back to even that level. He was 24 and seen as a franchise cornerstone when he got hurt, and it turns out that was the pinnacle of a career many people thought was on it's way to another stratosphere. They traded him less than two years later.

If KP's career production trajectory is going to mimic Jefferson's in terms of how he comes back, the Mavs are in a boatload of trouble in my opinion. Regardless, my main point in responding to your initial post was that I don't think that Porzingis' injury is in any way something that is a layup to come back from. In fact, because of his physical profile I think it's actually something that presents strong odds at impacting his career dramatically, whether an instant ceiling upon his return or further problems down the road. David West was not the same, Nerlens Noel never panned out, Gallinari had comparable rate stats upon his return but couldn't stay on the court, Nene came back and became a great backup bigman, but like you said, there haven't been many.

And I'm not insinuating anything at all about Durant and his achilles for the record - it's a horrific injury with a poor track record. Just that I don't think Porzingis is in any way free and clear.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#931 » by snadler » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:12 am

I assume KD isn’t actually having an official meeting with GS, he knows they are offering him the super max
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#932 » by MaseInYourFace » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:12 am

I don’t think Kawhi has any interest playing with Lebron. If he goes it’s because he wants to be in LA that bad.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#933 » by Bob Ross » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:13 am

I think that its half due diligence half not trying to get the Knicks nailed for tampering to take meetings with the clips and the posers
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#934 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:19 am

KnicksGod wrote:Kawhi going to the Lakers would be a major buzz kill.

perfect way to describe it...i cant blame him for wanting to be at home but it would kill the new energy he created...the start
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#936 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:20 am

Durant could take up to a week to decide. Fuq this, see y’all at summer-league.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#937 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:20 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
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What's the list of nba bigmen that came back from an ACL and fulfilled their promise?



There's not a lot of bigmen that had it, but many have made full recoveries. Al Jefferson had it.

Now list the players that came back from an Achilles. It's not a long list. It's Dominique Wilkins.

Oh and Durant is 7 feet as well. Only 3 inches shorter than KP, so the whole height thing is moot.


For the record I didn't ask that question as a setup, I asked it because I read your post, really disagreed with "perpetuating the myth that KP's injury will haunt him forever", and since I was at a kids' sporting event I couldn't do the research right then.

I honestly couldn't think of any. And I feel Al Jefferson actually supports my case - that was a young, dynamic bigman who was the centerpiece in the Garnett trade, and had his best season in the one he got hurt. He was on the upswing, and while he came close in later years to the same level of production he posted the year he got hurt, he never fully came back to even that level. He was 24 and seen as a franchise cornerstone when he got hurt, and it turns out that was the pinnacle of a career many people thought was on it's way to another stratosphere. They traded him less than two years later.

If KP's career production trajectory is going to mimic Jefferson's in terms of how he comes back, the Mavs are in a boatload of trouble in my opinion. Regardless, my main point in responding to your initial post was that I don't think that Porzingis' injury is in any way something that is a layup to come back from. In fact, because of his physical profile I think it's actually something that presents strong odds at impacting his career dramatically, whether an instant ceiling upon his return or further problems down the road. David West was not the same, Nerlens Noel never panned out, Gallinari had comparable rate stats upon his return but couldn't stay on the court, Nene came back and became a great backup bigman, but like you said, there haven't been many.

And I'm not insinuating anything at all about Durant and his achilles for the record - it's a horrific injury with a poor track record. Just that I don't think Porzingis is in any way free and clear.

So you think 6'10" in shoes Al Jefferson and his game is a decent comparison to 7'3" in bare feet KP's game?

I honestly am completely lost as to why sooooooo many posters here have a psychological thing where they have to irrationally attack players - particularly if they were once on the Knicks roster and now are not.

[edit] and of course for all of the injured guys no one knows. but there are risks for all players. you just have to guesstimate (with,eg, the Dolan-asked for medical info re KD) in each case
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#938 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:22 am

If Leonard isn't an option we should just keep building our own shift and put together what they envision is winning basketball.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#939 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:25 am

ibraheim718 wrote:If Leonard isn't an option we should just keep building our own shift and put together what they envision is winning basketball.


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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#940 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:27 am

I really hope Kawhi doesn't sign with the Knicks. If he can be sure to drag Jimmy B with him, then maybe it's vaguely doable. Otherwise I simply can't see how he can use the rest of his prime to actually win (or be close). The Knicks have to improve: which means switching assets for better players, or developing controlled substantially improved players (not necessarily under rookie conracts) before they can realistically use a (non-KD) elite FA.

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