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Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1001 » by GONYK » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:06 am

xNewYorkMadex wrote:I can see Kawhi going to the Lakers. Makes sense for him even though it would be an incredibly weak move and basically GSW version 2.0

Kawhi is back home where he always wanted. Gets to collect rings, and be able to build his brand with New Balance. Kawhi doesn’t give a fk about the criticism he will receive. He has 2 rings and 2 finals mvp’s and already beat LeBron in the finals. He probably feels he has nothing to prove. People will criticize him for being LeBron’s sidekick. But Kawhi seems like a guy who truly doesn’t give a fk whether he’s the star or 6th man. Guy is basically on cruise control for the rest of his career if he signs with the Lakers.

Kawhi seems like the last guy who would be interested in being in cruise control for the rest of his career
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1002 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:26 am

DaGawd wrote:So if the Knicks convince KD... We have a solid chance on Kawhi?? I'd gladly take in KD (pause) if that's the case


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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1003 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:37 am

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For the record I didn't ask that question as a setup, I asked it because I read your post, really disagreed with "perpetuating the myth that KP's injury will haunt him forever", and since I was at a kids' sporting event I couldn't do the research right then.

I honestly couldn't think of any. And I feel Al Jefferson actually supports my case - that was a young, dynamic bigman who was the centerpiece in the Garnett trade, and had his best season in the one he got hurt. He was on the upswing, and while he came close in later years to the same level of production he posted the year he got hurt, he never fully came back to even that level. He was 24 and seen as a franchise cornerstone when he got hurt, and it turns out that was the pinnacle of a career many people thought was on it's way to another stratosphere. They traded him less than two years later.

If KP's career production trajectory is going to mimic Jefferson's in terms of how he comes back, the Mavs are in a boatload of trouble in my opinion. Regardless, my main point in responding to your initial post was that I don't think that Porzingis' injury is in any way something that is a layup to come back from. In fact, because of his physical profile I think it's actually something that presents strong odds at impacting his career dramatically, whether an instant ceiling upon his return or further problems down the road. David West was not the same, Nerlens Noel never panned out, Gallinari had comparable rate stats upon his return but couldn't stay on the court, Nene came back and became a great backup bigman, but like you said, there haven't been many.

And I'm not insinuating anything at all about Durant and his achilles for the record - it's a horrific injury with a poor track record. Just that I don't think Porzingis is in any way free and clear.




I'm not a doctor, but I don't think it works that way though. It's not like if you're above a certain height you won't recover, and if you're below you will. Everyone has a different physiology, and heals differently.

The fact is that ACLs are a much easier injury to recover from compared to Achilles tears. Of course there is risk for both, but one is significantly worse than the other. It's like comparing a knife wound to a gun shot. Both can be deadly, but the gun shot tends to worse.


I agree with you completely here - no argument from me. I would only push back a little on serious knee/ankle/foot injuries being traditionally worse for big men.


But you're talking about a total "derangement of the knee." Like what Berens Davids had. In those cases, there's also cartilage damage, which, to me, is worse than the ligament tears because now you're talking about the decay of that cushion that keeps you from going bone-on-bone. (I had that. There was nothing worse than that. By the time I found a doctor/hospital who could help me (HSS) over a year later, the medial side of my knee joint was wearing away causing my right leg to begin to bow outward. I couldn't believe it wore down that much, that quickly.)

As for the Achilles, they all those that burst and quickness. They're just slower players. And at his age? Please.

So, think of KD who can only go up to 4th gear instead of 5th with the Turbo.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1004 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:40 am

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Bucks restricted free agent Malcolm Brogdon will lose a suitor if the Celtics ink Walker. The Suns, Bulls, Mavericks and Pacers could potentially extend Brogdon an offer sheet but some teams are concerned about his foot issues.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1005 » by GEOLINK » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:49 am

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Esq-4 wrote:Why does a meeting mean Lakers sign KL? What I miss?

LeBron, AD, Magic (most likely) will all be there to suck his balls.

Magic is not allowed to be there per NBA rules

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1006 » by GONYK » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:54 am

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Magic is not allowed to be there per NBA rules

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1007 » by DaGawd » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:05 am

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DaGawd wrote:So if the Knicks convince KD... We have a solid chance on Kawhi?? I'd gladly take in KD (pause) if that's the case


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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1008 » by aggo » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:22 am

i honestly dont care anymore.

wake me up when all these drama queens are done getting jerked off.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1009 » by Ray Williams » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:30 am

Fiz’ take on Julius Randle. I wouldn’t mind him, fits with our timeline and gives us a beast in the low post that can also score in transition. Called him the ‘ultimate power player in today’s NBA’!

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1010 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:33 am

Ray Williams wrote:Fiz’ take on Julius Randle. I wouldn’t mind him, fits with our timeline and gives us a beast in the low post that can also score in transition.

Does he play D? Kanter type player with good stats but not a winner...
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1011 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:49 am

Ray Williams wrote:Fiz’ take on Julius Randle. I wouldn’t mind him, fits with our timeline and gives us a beast in the low post that can also score in transition. Called him the ‘ultimate power player in today’s NBA’!


I've honestly changed my mind on him. I wouldn't mind him at all.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1012 » by Knick4Real » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:11 am

AggO wrote:i honestly dont care anymore.

wake me up when all these drama queens are done getting jerked off.


To be fair, the players aren't being "drama queens" since they are following league rules and waiting until Sunday to begin free agency. It's the media and the fans who refuse to be patient and constantly jump on every single rumor as if it were fact. THEY are the ones being drama queens.
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Post#1013 » by Knick4Real » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:14 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1014 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:37 am

How much would Rozier and Randle command?
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1015 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:53 am

I heard Randle is like Zion but without hops. I'm down!
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1016 » by Juco24 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:04 am

No matter what we do... some will consider the Knicks as losing the free Agency battle (see max kellerman) but realistically if we were to come away with Randle (FOR LESS THAN MAX) and Durant... personally I'd say that the summer was successful. RJ/Randle/Durant- I'll take it
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1017 » by King of Canada » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:20 am

Juco24 wrote:No matter what we do... some will consider the Knicks as losing the free Agency battle (see max kellerman) but realistically if we were to come away with Randle (FOR LESS THAN MAX) and Durant... personally I'd say that the summer was successful. RJ/Randle/Durant- I'll take it


If we locked up KD and couldn’t get a second star you coast and hope to get somebody via trade. He won’t come to NY to play with Randle. It’ll be another top guy or not at all.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1018 » by GEOLINK » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:22 am

KD will decide who he wants on the team once he signs.

It's just the way it was meant to be. He's not coming here without some control, regardless of him being on one leg.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1019 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:26 am

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#1020 » by GEOLINK » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:38 am

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I know a lot of us fall into the trap that players grow up wanting to play for their home team, I do as well. But let's be real, a lot of Professional athletes in the NBA barely grew up watching their home team play.

Really think Kawhi was sitting on his couch like all of us watching Kobe/Shaq every game?

Dude was working on his craft as a little one most of his days. Most of these guys have no attachment whatsoever to a team.

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