Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

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[BeagleBoss]

I still say coming here and winning a championship is the ultimate challenge in sports when you factor in the market, media, fans, history and owner. It's going to take a special kind of player/s to come here and break the curse and climb that mountain. Kawhi has that Jeter/Eli personality and game. KD doesn't have the personality (going to GS tarnished his legacy imo) but he can silence the critics and eclipse LeBum in this era ONLY by coming here and achieving what seems like the impossible.

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[Clyde_Style]

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Apparently that market wasn't materializing

Does this mean Manila has a shot at signing both KD and Kahwi?

Will Duterte join the pitch?

[thebuzzardman]

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"Quality"

[GEOLINK]

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Can Kanter travel to Spain? If so, he found his next calling.

[dakomish23]

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[thebuzzardman]

I guess if the Knicks had to scrape the bottom of the vet C barrel after KD and Kawhi, Nene might fit.

I feel like he was "quality" about 3 seasons ago.

[BeagleBoss]

So I'm on my way to an adoption event to go check out this puppy and her name is 'Kadie'.

Kadie = KD? Is it a sign?

[HEZI]

Most people thought KP would be decent; he was, but the Knicks made a decision not to be stuck with a less than max player making max money. Good move.

Sort of like how it might not be the best idea to max out DLo.

And GTFO with "I'd want to max out Frank". He's a young guard, might not turn out any good, but my stance was always it's early, and his defense has been good from the jump and an asset. Other than that, what DSJr and Frank have is that they are cheap and cost controlled. Also, the Knicks committment to them doesn't have to last more than, what, 1 more year? Two? DLo is gonna get four years.

Then again, the Knicks can go ahead and max out DLo and no one else and we can be last year's Nets. Good times.

Knicks made the decision? Get your facts straight. Knicks were on their hands and knees trying to get him to commit but it was KP and Janis who refused to so Knicks did the logical thing of trying to squeeze out some assets out of him rather than lose him for nothing. Knicks invested resources into him trying to get him to commit but it was him who refused to.

Cheap? We wasted a lotto pick on him how the fuq is that cheap? We tanked all year to end up with him and you gonna tell me he's cheap? FOH with that nonsense. Wasting lotto picks or wasting cap space, it's the same difference, either way you are wasting resources. I don't write the checks so I don't care about their paycheckes, all I know is we wasted a pick on a dude we couldn't even sell off for a 2nd round pick this draft. Yeah, but you cape for that

Wah. The lotto pick was what it was. It's an already burned asset. I'm talking about the cost in $ for cap management.

And we don't know what the facts are about the KP situation. I, for one, am glad they didn't commit max dollars to a guy who has played more like a 2nd option, ultimately.

And this ties into rising "star" players and 2nd contracts. A team holding the guy has to decide if he's worth holding onto for the 4 or 5 years - I guess 5 since he's their asset, or, if he's worth holding at that price and if it fits the timeline of the rebuild and their flexibility to do it.

What are you crying about anyway? You inferred KP wasn't the kind of guy to max out anyway, or that it would be a bad look if I advocated it in the past.

Also, the Knicks didn't "tank all year" to get Frank. They just sucked, but not enough and picked 7th or 8th or whatever it was. For f*cks sake they didn't even specifically "tank all year" to get Knox - they just weren't any good after KP got hurt. If anything, they didn't tank HARD ENOUGH, and wound up with Knox. Oh well. Again, at least he's cost controlled and cheap. Last season they absolutely "Tanked all year" and got RJ. At least get it right.

It isn't wrong to be looking into a quality young PG, because Frank is likely a backup, and DSJr is going to have a 14 million $ cap hit in a couple of years, so there is something to trying to pivot to a guy like DLo.

I'm not sold on 1 year of top production being worth 4 years of the maximum number of dollars a player in his tranche/cohort...whatever the term would be. That's all. Not saying he sucks. Not saying the Knicks guards are better.

All I just read was you still caping for a "burned asset"

Stay trying to shove Frank Ntilikina down everybody's throat. Son is trash, deal with it

[BeagleBoss]

Some of you make Ntilikina very unlikeable.

[dakomish23]

If it’s the Clips, I think the Gallo list of suitors will be long. They could even get a good asset for him.

[thebuzzardman]

So I'm on my way to an adoption event to go check out this puppy and her name is 'Kadie'.

Kadie = KD? Is it a sign?

There's a couple of dark jokes regarding puppies and where KD might sign, ultimately.

However, in good taste, I won't make them.

[Billy Goat]

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"Quality"

Once a Knick..

[mpharris36]

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please do that nets

kyrie and wiggins as your main core

[GEOLINK]

Why do the Nets want to get rid of Russell so badly.

I seriously hope it brings bad juju to them.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks made the decision? Get your facts straight. Knicks were on their hands and knees trying to get him to commit but it was KP and Janis who refused to so Knicks did the logical thing of trying to squeeze out some assets out of him rather than lose him for nothing. Knicks invested resources into him trying to get him to commit but it was him who refused to.

Cheap? We wasted a lotto pick on him how the fuq is that cheap? We tanked all year to end up with him and you gonna tell me he's cheap? FOH with that nonsense. Wasting lotto picks or wasting cap space, it's the same difference, either way you are wasting resources. I don't write the checks so I don't care about their paycheckes, all I know is we wasted a pick on a dude we couldn't even sell off for a 2nd round pick this draft. Yeah, but you cape for that

Wah. The lotto pick was what it was. It's an already burned asset. I'm talking about the cost in $ for cap management.

And we don't know what the facts are about the KP situation. I, for one, am glad they didn't commit max dollars to a guy who has played more like a 2nd option, ultimately.

And this ties into rising "star" players and 2nd contracts. A team holding the guy has to decide if he's worth holding onto for the 4 or 5 years - I guess 5 since he's their asset, or, if he's worth holding at that price and if it fits the timeline of the rebuild and their flexibility to do it.

What are you crying about anyway? You inferred KP wasn't the kind of guy to max out anyway, or that it would be a bad look if I advocated it in the past.

Also, the Knicks didn't "tank all year" to get Frank. They just sucked, but not enough and picked 7th or 8th or whatever it was. For f*cks sake they didn't even specifically "tank all year" to get Knox - they just weren't any good after KP got hurt. If anything, they didn't tank HARD ENOUGH, and wound up with Knox. Oh well. Again, at least he's cost controlled and cheap. Last season they absolutely "Tanked all year" and got RJ. At least get it right.

It isn't wrong to be looking into a quality young PG, because Frank is likely a backup, and DSJr is going to have a 14 million $ cap hit in a couple of years, so there is something to trying to pivot to a guy like DLo.

I'm not sold on 1 year of top production being worth 4 years of the maximum number of dollars a player in his tranche/cohort...whatever the term would be. That's all. Not saying he sucks. Not saying the Knicks guards are better.

All I just read was you still caping for a "burned asset"

Stay trying to shove Frank Ntilikina down everybody's throat. Son is trash, deal with it

Where you brought him up? He wasn't even in the discussion until you brought him up.

The point around DLo had nothing to with Frank and has nothing to do with him. And then you brought him up, and brought up KP and then make up "I'm trying to shove him down your throat".

It's about $. And risk. That's it. Actually, my assumption is DSJr is the starting PG. Oh, sorry for "shoving DSJr down your throat". I mean, after 3totheheadMelo was done.

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