Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras

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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#241 » by lakerz12 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:29 pm

What's next, are they going to say Hakeem was not athletic?

Smh. Pippen and Rodman would be All NBA players today.

Apparently Charles Barkley would be a small guard in today's game too.

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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#242 » by RandomRaptorfan » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:42 pm

I don't know how we can make all these assumptions about size when all these players' listed weights are super inaccurate
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#243 » by Ayt » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:54 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:
gh123 wrote:
mademan wrote:lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today

That was embarassing when Barkley told how young Dirk dropped 55 on Pip lol


When did this happen?


Unsurprisingly, it only happened in his mind.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#244 » by Heat4lyf » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:05 pm

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mademan wrote:lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today

So Iggy can guard Lebron....but not Pippen??? :lol:

J.J Barea can guard LeBron but not Pippen :lol:
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#245 » by gh123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:51 am

Ayt wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:
gh123 wrote:That was embarassing when Barkley told how young Dirk dropped 55 on Pip lol


When did this happen?


Unsurprisingly, it only happened in his mind.


When team USA was in Germany and they ran scrimmages with the local teams. There's a video on YouTube.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#246 » by jaymo123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:52 am

Heat4lyf wrote:
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mademan wrote:lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today

So Iggy can guard Lebron....but not Pippen??? :lol:

J.J Barra can guard LeBron but not Pippen :lol:


End of thread. I still don't know how Lebron let that happen.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#247 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:07 am

gh123 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:
When did this happen?


Unsurprisingly, it only happened in his mind.


When team USA was in Germany and they ran scrimmages with the local teams. There's a video on YouTube.


Lol, a scrimmage? In 10 more years, Barkley will have the total up to 70...
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#248 » by gh123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:19 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
Unsurprisingly, it only happened in his mind.


When team USA was in Germany and they ran scrimmages with the local teams. There's a video on YouTube.


Lol, a scrimmage? In 10 more years, Barkley will have the total up to 70...


There are multiple witnesses to that, so doesn't matter what Barkley says. And yes, a scrimmage, what else did you expect? Dirk was 18 or something and totally shat all over your boy Pip, so you can't really protect him from that lol.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#249 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:21 am

Lmao. Lebron would get destroyed by Kareem. Not 3-point shot. No chance. And Lebron would no way bear Lakers and Celtics and sixers teams if the 80s.


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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#250 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:24 am

Lebron would be ringless in those eras. He'd try to tamper his way to a super team but nobody would pick up the phone on him. Guys were actually competitors back then.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#251 » by Ayt » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:28 am

gh123 wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:
gh123 wrote:
When team USA was in Germany and they ran scrimmages with the local teams. There's a video on YouTube.


Lol, a scrimmage? In 10 more years, Barkley will have the total up to 70...


There are multiple witnesses to that, so doesn't matter what Barkley says. And yes, a scrimmage, what else did you expect? Dirk was 18 or something and totally shat all over your boy Pip, so you can't really protect him from that lol.


Yeah, dude. Dirk at 18 lit up 31-year-old Pippen and then two years later he entered the NBA and struggled badly as a rookie. That same Pippen, who apparently couldn't guard 18-year-old Dirk who struggled in the NBA two years later, somehow turned into a stellar defender that helped lead the Bulls to a 6th championship. And that totally proves Pippen was overrated as a defender. And there is no way Barkley was just making **** up because that definitely isn't something Barkley would do.

Just so we are straight, you actually think Pippen wasn't an outstanding defensive player because of this nonsense? This is how your brain actually functions?
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#252 » by Threethrows » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:39 am

People will never stop trying to find ways to hate and discredit him. Yes LeBron would tear 70's basketball a new one, as he would every era.
However, to act like Pippen and Rodman wouldn't be effective in today's game is absurd. Stop acting like the only things that matter in defense are muscle and height. Defensive instinct that lets you anticipate your opponent, actual knowledge of said opponent, good footwork and old fashioned effort are much more important. Things Pippen and Rodman had in spades. These guys could still be stars in today's league and neither of them were physically weak anyway.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#253 » by NZB2323 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:55 am

mademan wrote:
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mademan wrote:lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today




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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#254 » by NZB2323 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:02 am

The 70s NBA was a weak era because many of the best players were playing in the ABA and a lot of guys were taking coke. No 3 point shooting would hurt Spacing for Lebron though. I guess if he played in the ABA there were 3 pointers. Who is the best defensive player in ABA history? I think Lebron performs even better in the ABA.

However, Dennis Roman successfully guarded Magic, Jordan, Bird, Karl Malone, and Shaq, and Pippen is one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. Those guys would do better job of defending Lebron than Hedo Turkoglu, Paul Pierce, Shawn Marion, Jason Kidd, Tayshaun Prince, Andre Igudola, Kevin Durant, Jimmy Butler, and Paul George. I don’t know if they’d do as good of a job as Kawhi though.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#255 » by gh123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:22 am

Ayt wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:
Lol, a scrimmage? In 10 more years, Barkley will have the total up to 70...


There are multiple witnesses to that, so doesn't matter what Barkley says. And yes, a scrimmage, what else did you expect? Dirk was 18 or something and totally shat all over your boy Pip, so you can't really protect him from that lol.


Yeah, dude. Dirk at 18 lit up 31-year-old Pippen and then two years later he entered the NBA and struggled badly as a rookie. That same Pippen, who apparently couldn't guard 18-year-old Dirk who struggled in the NBA two years later, somehow turned into a stellar defender that helped lead the Bulls to a 6th championship. And that totally proves Pippen was overrated as a defender. And there is no way Barkley was just making **** up because that definitely isn't something Barkley would do.

Just so we are straight, you actually think Pippen wasn't an outstanding defensive player because of this nonsense? This is how your brain actually functions?


I'm not saying Pip is a bad defender, he's elite. And why Barkley would lie? He was on that team, everyone else was, why would no one try and call him out on that? Do you love Pip so much or do you hate Dirk a lot?
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#256 » by AussieCeltic » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:19 am

Young guys today won't understand until they're a bit older and the younger generation starts saying that Lebron James would be a terrible player in 2030. They'll say he just played against regular guys likee JJ Barea and Steve Novak. You'll see. Not today, not tomorrow but in time and then you'll understand just how good the older generations were.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#257 » by NZB2323 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:00 am

gh123 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
gh123 wrote:
There are multiple witnesses to that, so doesn't matter what Barkley says. And yes, a scrimmage, what else did you expect? Dirk was 18 or something and totally shat all over your boy Pip, so you can't really protect him from that lol.


Yeah, dude. Dirk at 18 lit up 31-year-old Pippen and then two years later he entered the NBA and struggled badly as a rookie. That same Pippen, who apparently couldn't guard 18-year-old Dirk who struggled in the NBA two years later, somehow turned into a stellar defender that helped lead the Bulls to a 6th championship. And that totally proves Pippen was overrated as a defender. And there is no way Barkley was just making **** up because that definitely isn't something Barkley would do.

Just so we are straight, you actually think Pippen wasn't an outstanding defensive player because of this nonsense? This is how your brain actually functions?


I'm not saying Pip is a bad defender, he's elite. And why Barkley would lie? He was on that team, everyone else was, why would no one try and call him out on that? Do you love Pip so much or do you hate Dirk a lot?


Charles Barkley has a tendency to exaggerate. Denzel Washington once lit up Ray Allen and there’s video of that as well.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#258 » by Killboard » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:21 am

If you take a guy in a time machine from the 70's or even the '90 they probably would struggle. But if took 14 years old Alcindor and put him in in a good AAU program with the sport science it is today, and shapes his game to where the league is going, he would obliterate the league as he did back then. Which I'm trying to say is that the sport got better as a whole, but individual prowess can only be judged by the environment where they developed.
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#259 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:39 am

thebigbird wrote:The NBA has so much more talent today than it did 25+ years ago. Of course superstars of today would excel in previous eras. LeBron would be playing part-time janitors and fry cooks in the 70s.

And full time crackheads(The number of NBA players using cocaine in the 70's was apparently staggering - from the book of basketball by Bill Simmons)
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Re: Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras 

Post#260 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:46 am

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SK21209 wrote:Truth that no one wants to admit is due to sports science the current generation of players will always be generally better than the last and the next generation will be better than the present.


Not true, there are limits to what the human body can do.



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