Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

rrayy · Post #261 » by **rrayy** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

James1980 wrote:I think the 50 40 90 at 15 ppg did, but ok.
rrayy wrote:
James1980 wrote:He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee because he said it was mkst segregated city he's lived in? Why come back in the playoffs then?

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If he doesn't come back in the palyoffs, he doesn't get what he just got. He would be stuck in Milwaukee, or play somewhere else for far less than what he would in Milwaukee. Only a fool would sit out. His playoffs is what got him the extra cash.

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If he didn't come back, the injury becomes a bigger concern or he looks unprofessional by refusing to play. By coming back, he proved he was over the injury. You think he would get the same money if he refused to play in the playoffs?

bucksbrewers3 · Post #262 » by **bucksbrewers3** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

After a couple years away I came back and.....the sky is falling posts are still here.

Balls2TheWalls · Post #263 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

lvckv wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:12M would cover Covington.

He's a very good player, and the second-best on the Wolves. What are we giving to get him exactly?

Cap space that they need to sign D-Lo

livestrong4ever · Post #264 » by **livestrong4ever** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
livestrong4ever wrote:Harris got a 180 million dollar deal
Unsure why people are attacking the Middleton deal so harshly- its pretty much the going rate in the NBA- to let Middleton go would tank us. Its not like Milwaukee is a free agent destination. Giannis helps but its still Milwaukee

Wrong thread.

People were attacking the Middle contract earlier in this thread.
Seems confusing to me- you guys are upset that Bucks were not willing to overpay for Brogs but at the same time mad- they did overpay for Middleton?

JEIS · Post #265 » by **JEIS** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

Jabari Parker 1 year coming up.

coolhandluke121 · Post #266 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

Nowak008 wrote:I’m glad Horst was worried about managing assets for the next few years. They must believe in DDV.

Or more likely... LED cheaped out.

Yeah, this is the most obvious thing ever. Not even trying to hide. Pretty convenient that they prioritized the guys who would allow them to make the excuse that they have to get under the cap, as opposed to keeping as many good players as possible.

No way I'm blaming Horst. Owners decide on luxury tax, period. Always have and always will. Made it impossible to have a good off season. Don't split hairs about whom they should have kept and whom they shouldn't have; bottom line, they should have more talent on the team, and they would if they weren't so cheap.

livestrong4ever · Post #267 » by **livestrong4ever** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:
lvckv wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:12M would cover Covington.

He's a very good player, and the second-best on the Wolves. What are we giving to get him exactly?

Cap space that they need to sign D-Lo

Covington has always been one of my favorite under the radar players

trwi7 · Post #268 » by **trwi7** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm

lvckv wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:12M would cover Covington.

He's a very good player, and the second-best on the Wolves. What are we giving to get him exactly?

The TPE, both 2nds and we'll stop saying we have more lakes than them.

Buck Dweller · Post #269 » by **Buck Dweller** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
Buck Dweller wrote:So basically they traded an asset for a bunch of assets that could potentially bring back another asset comparable to the one they originally traded. If they find a trade partner, it's a lateral move, and that's assuming the return is equal enough to Brogdon. If they can't find a trade partner, you just squandered your #4 guy in the rotation JUST SO THE OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE TAX.

You’re also ignoring Brogdon’s medical problems.

The Bucks traded an asset they were going to lose for another asset.

I'm no doctor but Brogdon's plantar fasciitis and the quad injury from the year prior were unrelated to the college foot issues. It's by no means a forgone conclusion that every foot issue will amount in nagging problems. But people always bring it up because it's convenient to their arguments.

And they were not going to lose Brogdon. He was restricted, and the only evidence he wanted out was a Gery tweet and some posters intuition about his body language, so that idea is still speculation.

TroyD92 · Post #270 » by **TroyD92** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm

lvckv wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:12M would cover Covington.

He's a very good player, and the second-best on the Wolves. What are we giving to get him exactly?

Wolves and Heat both want to create cap room to sign Butler/Dlo. Bucks are in a great position and I'd be shocked if a deal with one of those teams doesn't go down.

mke_design · Post #271 » by **mke_design** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm

Brogdon didn’t wanna he in Milwaukee. It’s that simple. We got a massive trade exception and restocked a bare cupboard.

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Lippo · Post #272 » by **Lippo** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm

NomNomNomParker wrote:Owners probably will pay the tax if need be...don't think this was then saying they won't pay out more so than Malcom not wanting to be here...genuinely never had a vibe he enjoyed the city.

Yeah Brogs never had fun on the court here, many of us knew he would be the odd man out if he had his way.

Post #273 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm

Indiana for the home opener would be fun

coolhandluke121 · Post #274 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:23 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:People were attacking the Middle contract earlier in this thread.
Seems confusing to me- you guys are upset that Bucks were not willing to overpay for Brogs but at the same time mad- they did overpay for Middleton?

Not confusing at all. Could have had Mirotic and Brogdon for the price of Middleton. Almost enough to choose Brogdon and Hill over him.

And again, it's the fact that they're being cheap. This is just another brick in that wall.

Badgerlander · Post #275 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

We desperately need another ballhandling Guard

TroyD92 · Post #276 » by **TroyD92** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Indiana for the home opener would be fun

Bledsoe would lock him down.

Buck Dweller · Post #277 » by **Buck Dweller** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

rrayy wrote:
Buck Dweller wrote:
rrayy wrote:This is not blatant cheapness. How do you guys not understand that Brogaon DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN MILWAUKEE? Why do you guys seriously want to pay a guy all that money who you know is going to be a malcontent and probably be a liability to the team?

At this point this is still presupposition with the only evidence being a Gery tweet. He never made a trade demand as far as we know.
You don't have to make a public trade demand to want out. All he had to do was inform Horst and Horst facilitated it. But it is pretty obvious from his demeanor that he really didn't want to be in town.

Your intuition about his demeanor does not make his apparent motives obvious.

jimmybones · Post #278 » by **jimmybones** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

Willing to wait and see what the end game is here. Is it possible to use the picks plus our other young assets to off load enough contracts to do something meaningful? If they are choosing a player or two instead of Brogdon to roll with, I can get down with it. But yes, if it's strictly a savings thing, f that.

I can live with Brown/Italian dude/Irish dude platoon if we still add another PG that can shoot and/or another quality big.

lds102 · Post #279 » by **lds102** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:25 pm

Well we picked up Brook & Pat last year. We wernt going to pay Malcolm 21 Mil a year so let's reload.

James1980 · Post #280 » by **James1980** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:25 pm

Who's our starting 2 guard, who are our backups?

rrayy wrote:
James1980 wrote:I think the 50 40 90 at 15 ppg did, but ok.
rrayy wrote:If he doesn't come back in the palyoffs, he doesn't get what he just got. He would be stuck in Milwaukee, or play somewhere else for far less than what he would in Milwaukee. Only a fool would sit out. His playoffs is what got him the extra cash.

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If he didn't come back, the injury becomes a bigger concern or he looks unprofessional by refusing to play. By coming back, he proved he was over the injury. You think he would get the same money if he refused to play in the playoffs?

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