Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread

80sballboy · Post #1601 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:05 am

Physhi · Post #1602 » by **Physhi** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:13 am

Gig18 wrote:Mannnnnn, I don't know what this team is going to do for scoring... if we, as has been proposed, cut Howard as well, we're bereft pf scoring. Wall's out probably for the year. and we've just lost SEVEN of our top 10 scorers.
I love our rookies and Troy Brown Jr. but it's asking a lot of Brown, Hachimura and the rest to take up that scoring slack...

To me this offseason suggests that Tommy's looking ahead a couple of seasons from now. Since Wall is lost for basically the entire season (maybe he comes back in March) the chances that we were going to win more than 35 games was already rather low. With a bunch of new players arriving it doesn't seem reasonable at all to expect us to be competitive in the East. This seems to be the season of evaluating what we currently have and moving forward from there. Which guys to cut, which to keep, can Wall still play at an all star level, is Beal the guy you can build around, what can you acquire through Howard's or Mahinmi's expiring contracts etc.

It feels in a way with the new batch of young players coming to the team Tommy might be forcing Brooks to give these guys a shot at real NBA minutes and not allowing him to hide them on the bench. He might have even given Brooks the plan that we're not expecting to win a lot of games so play the young guys as much as you can and don't worry so much about the results. If this is the case I wonder how Beal has taken the shift in direction. He's not getting any older and as we all know players are defined by how many championships they win. Even if the fans love Beal and he loves playing for us I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to sit around for a year while these guys develop. Not saying he's in a win now mode but if guys like Rui, Mo, Bryant, Brown etc don't perform at a high level compared to their respective draft classes the clock might be ticking on how many games he'll have left in DC.

prime1time · Post #1603 » by **prime1time** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:25 am

Physhi wrote:
Gig18 wrote:Mannnnnn, I don't know what this team is going to do for scoring... if we, as has been proposed, cut Howard as well, we're bereft pf scoring. Wall's out probably for the year. and we've just lost SEVEN of our top 10 scorers.
I love our rookies and Troy Brown Jr. but it's asking a lot of Brown, Hachimura and the rest to take up that scoring slack...

To me this offseason suggests that Tommy's looking ahead a couple of seasons from now. Since Wall is lost for basically the entire season (maybe he comes back in March) the chances that we were going to win more than 35 games was already rather low. With a bunch of new players arriving it doesn't seem reasonable at all to expect us to be competitive in the East. This seems to be the season of evaluating what we currently have and moving forward from there. Which guys to cut, which to keep, can Wall still play at an all star level, is Beal the guy you can build around, what can you acquire through Howard's or Mahinmi's expiring contracts etc.

It feels in a way with the new batch of young players coming to the team Tommy might be forcing Brooks to give these guys a shot at real NBA minutes and not allowing him to hide them on the bench. He might have even given Brooks the plan that we're not expecting to win a lot of games so play the young guys as much as you can and don't worry so much about the results. If this is the case I wonder how Beal has taken the shift in direction. He's not getting any older and as we all know players are defined by how many championships they win. Even if the fans love Beal and he loves playing for us I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to sit around for a year while these guys develop. Not saying he's in a win now mode but if guys like Rui, Mo, Bryant, Brown etc don't perform at a high level compared to their respective draft classes the clock might be ticking on how many games he'll have left in DC.

Well if he's down for it, 2020 could be big. We'll add a high lottery player, we'll have Wall coming back and our young guys would have had a season to grow. It'd would have been tough to compete regardless with Wall out for the entire year anyway. But 2020 season could be very interesting.

gambitx777 · Post #1604 » by **gambitx777** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:26 am

If buttler just says **** it let me go to the clippers.miami might call about wall for a cap dump of Anderson and dragic

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80sballboy · Post #1605 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:38 am

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Post #1606 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:50 am

I like what Washington has done thus far, both the Mo Wagner trade and the Thomas Bryant signing are great, underrated moves.

Post #1607 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 12:50 am

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Hmmm. They just need to clear Ilyasova off their roster. They now have two 2nds and a 1st from Utah received in the Brogdon trade. Send us both 2nds or one 1st we can absorb Ilyasova into the Markieff TPE.

80sballboy · Post #1608 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:17 am

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payitforward · Post #1609 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:31 am

nate33 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:

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I disagree. This is a great move even if Bryant only marginally improves. I'm really happy about this. I'm also not worried about Bryant's improvement. By all accounts, he's one of the hardest working guys in basketball.

Last year, Bryant was already one of the better Centers in the league. Won't take long for that contract to look like one of the half dozen biggest bargains in the entire NBA.

Give Tommy Sheppard the executive of the year award, please.

payitforward · Post #1610 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:46 am

Gig18 wrote:Mannnnnn, I don't know what this team is going to do for scoring... if we, as has been proposed, cut Howard as well, we're bereft pf scoring. Wall's out probably for the year. and we've just lost SEVEN of our top 10 scorers.
I love our rookies and Troy Brown Jr. but it's asking a lot of Brown, Hachimura and the rest to take up that scoring slack...

There's no need to score. Scoring is overrated. We're going to get all the rebounds on both ends of the court (also in the middle & the sidelines), we'll have more steals than turnovers. More other good things too -- & few bad ones. Do it that way!

Keep in mind that points need to be manufactured, & manufacturing jobs are going away -- being replaced by robots. We're going to be the first NBA team to sign a robot; he'll do the scoring. Sign him at robot minimum.

Soon the robot will have lots of robot fans who will comment here or over at the robot Board. In fact, I'm not PIF, I'm a robot -- he is on the other side of the room & has no idea what I'm saying. Dumb human....

I'm the first robot to write a post here. Get some kind of award for that, right? But PIF didn't train me very well. He forgot to teach me how to use the green font.

What is "green" btw? What does that mean? There is no word "green" in robot language. I'll try in Google Translate while you humans write more posts about old-fashioned human players. "Guys" with "names." No problem -- you go ahead. Over & out!

payitforward · Post #1611 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:53 am

Physhi wrote:...I wonder how Beal has taken the shift in direction. He's not getting any older and as we all know players are defined by how many championships they win. Even if the fans love Beal and he loves playing for us I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to sit around for a year while these guys develop. Not saying he's in a win now mode but if guys like Rui, Mo, Bryant, Brown etc don't perform at a high level compared to their respective draft classes the clock might be ticking on how many games he'll have left in DC.

Well, if he's not getting any older... what's the problem?

gambitx777 · Post #1612 » by **gambitx777** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:53 am

Wall for Anderson and Johnson ? Not the deal.i wanted but Johnson's contract only has 2 years left on it.

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gambitx777 · Post #1613 » by **gambitx777** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:56 am

Look at what Jimmy buttler just did. He could have gone somewhere better to try and win. But no he said I wanna be the guy, I want my own team. He's older than beal. we pretty much told Beal. This is your team. Yes wall needs delt with later but this is beals team and maybe that's what he wants. To be the guy.

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gravytrain24 · Post #1614 » by **gravytrain24** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:56 am

I’m looking at teams that need a point guard and the list for a starting one isn’t big. Wizards have a slim but good chance of signing him for less then I assume he’d want.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1615 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:06 am

Domejandro wrote:I like what Washington has done thus far, both the Mo Wagner trade and the Thomas Bryant signing are great, underrated moves.

Hey thanks, I agree both are good moves !

Both are intriguing young bigs with skill and play hard. I can see the two of them really challenging each other, and at times I think you could play them together. Add Hachimura to the mix and we could be on to something !

payitforward · Post #1616 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:13 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I like what Washington has done thus far, both the Mo Wagner trade and the Thomas Bryant signing are great, underrated moves.

Hey thanks, I agree both are good moves !

Both are intriguing young bigs with skill and play hard. I can see the two of them really challenging each other, and at times I think you could play them together. Add Hachimura to the mix and we could be on to something !

What's "the Mo Wagner trade?" ...Oh, I get it! He means the Jemerrio Jones trade, right?

Post #1617 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:13 am

gambitx777 wrote:Wall for Anderson and Johnson ? Not the deal.i wanted but Johnson's contract only has 2 years left on it.

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That would be glorious!

80sballboy · Post #1618 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:16 am

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payitforward · Post #1619 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:18 am

So... what does today's bloodletting mean for lower-tier guys like Portis? Is everybody altogether out of money by now? Or, will the mega-slew of over-pays mean that GMs will wake up tomorrow & need some $5-8m guys. Meaning we still might see Bobby Portis go to another team.

About this time ten days ago we were picking Admiral Schofield -- what a ride it's been since then!!

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1620 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:20 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Free agency is about to begin. Here is a list of players I would take a look at...

Kevon Looney
Mike Muscala
Richaun Holmes
Tyler Lydon
Cam Reynolds
Henry Ellenson
Mario Hezonja
Glenn Robinson III
Noah Vonleh
Nick Stauskas
Jerian Grant
Rodney Hood

And I would look to retain our own FAs Satoransky, Dekker, Bryant

Not sure how this list is transpiring ....

I'm still interested in all these guys ... All are fairly young UFAs. I've always really liked Holmes and Robinson, and Muscala.