Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1621 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:30 am

Interesting Lydon played last season with the Go Go while he was on the Nuggets. I guess Denver doesn't have a Gleague team?

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2019/06/an-update-on-tyler-lydon-and-syracuses-other-nba-free-agents.html

Post #1622 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:33 am

I really like how Sheppard has played this. He did what it took to lock up the one guy that really mattered in Bryant. And he got him at a very nice price.

Now, he is being patient and waiting for other teams to blow their cash. With some luck, Sato can be retained for something south of $7M a year. After that there should be about $9M in luxtax room leftover to go bargain hunting. I'd love to get Vonleh or Jabari locked into a 2-year deal at $5 or $6M a year (hopefully with a team option on Year 3), but there are other guys out there too. The key is to be flexible and just try and find guys who are good, young and cheap.

Physhi · Post #1623 » by **Physhi** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:41 am

payitforward wrote:
Physhi wrote:...I wonder how Beal has taken the shift in direction. He's not getting any older and as we all know players are defined by how many championships they win. Even if the fans love Beal and he loves playing for us I find it hard to believe that he'll be able to sit around for a year while these guys develop. Not saying he's in a win now mode but if guys like Rui, Mo, Bryant, Brown etc don't perform at a high level compared to their respective draft classes the clock might be ticking on how many games he'll have left in DC.

Well, if he's not getting any older... what's the problem?

Lmao this is what I get for not proof reading.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1624 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:42 am

John Jenkins is another guy I'd look at as a low cost bench add.

https://clutchpoints.com/knicks-news-new-york-declines-team-options-former-1st-round-picks-henry-ellenson-john-jenkins/

Post #1625 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:48 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:John Jenkins is another guy I'd look at as a low cost bench add.

That guy has pretty much played himself out of the league. He has played a total of 370 minutes in the last 2 years combined. He's now 28 years old.

I think his NBA career is over, except maybe as an emergency mid-season addition somewhere if someone has a slew of guard injuries.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1626 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:54 am

Hood re-signed by Portland.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1627 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:57 am

Hezonja also signed by Portland.

Shanghai Kid · Post #1628 » by **Shanghai Kid** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:00 am

I understand that Durant is a way better shooter than John, but it is interesting to see the contrast in how people see Durant post achillees and how they see John.

Obviously Durant is starting at a higher level of ability, but relatively speaking most appear to think he's still going to be a top 5-10 player.

Any talk of John Wall seems to suggest that literally his career might be over. John is a full two years younger than KD but I guess it's just the whole "relying on speed" dynamic.

Cheering for John to prove people wrong.

gambitx777 · Post #1629 » by **gambitx777** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:06 am

Medicals come a long way, his passing ability will still be there. So let's hope .... That we can trade him

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SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1630 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:07 am

Shanghai Kid wrote:I understand that Durant is a way better shooter than John, but it is interesting to see the contrast in how people see Durant post achillees and how they see John.

Obviously Durant is starting at a higher level of ability, but relatively speaking most appear to think he's still going to be a top 5-10 player.

Any talk of John Wall seems to suggest that literally his career might be over. John is a full two years younger than KD but I guess it's just the whole "relying on speed" dynamic.

Cheering for John to prove people wrong.

Relying on speed... Pg position... Also KD will still have his height/length, and excellent shooting. John is not a great shooter and relies on his speed to break down a defense. Very different game and skill level.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1631 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:10 am

Plus John was already bad defensively, now he'll be completely worthless on that end of the floor.

Gig18 · Post #1632 » by **Gig18** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:18 am

Shanghai Kid wrote:I understand that Durant is a way better shooter than John, but it is interesting to see the contrast in how people see Durant post achillees and how they see John.

Obviously Durant is starting at a higher level of ability, but relatively speaking most appear to think he's still going to be a top 5-10 player.

Any talk of John Wall seems to suggest that literally his career might be over. John is a full two years younger than KD but I guess it's just the whole "relying on speed" dynamic.

Cheering for John to prove people wrong.

Amen.

Post #1633 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:19 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Plus John was already bad defensively, now he'll be completely worthless on that end of the floor.

And finally, KD is, in general, a much better player. KD is on pace to be a top 15 player of All-Time. John Wall won't sniff the top 150.

If KD comes back to 90%, he's 90% of an All-Time Great, which is still and All-NBA caliber player. An All-NBA caliber player making $41M a year is a good contract.

If Wall comes back at 90%, he's 90% of a top 6-10 PG. 90% of a top 6-10 is basically an average player. An average player making $41M a year is a major burden.

gambitx777 · Post #1634 » by **gambitx777** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:21 am

The thing about John is yes his speed mattered ! But he is also an elite ball distribution guy and an elite court vision guy and he's great at draw contact. He will have to get crafty and he really needs to improve his shooting a bit , shot selection would help, but the defence was lack of effort not ability so if he tries he won't be to much worse off

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80sballboy · Post #1635 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:48 am

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dorianwrite · Post #1636 » by **dorianwrite** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:52 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Interesting Lydon played last season with the Go Go while he was on the Nuggets. I guess Denver doesn't have a Gleague team?

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2019/06/an-update-on-tyler-lydon-and-syracuses-other-nba-free-agents.html

Not to rain on this parade, but Syracuse b-ball fan since childhood here. Every year it seems, at least one Syracuse player who has absolutely no business leaving school early decides to enter the draft. (This year it was both Tyus Battle and Oshae Brissett.) Tyler Lydon was a perfectly good college player (as was Malachi Richardson, also mentioned in this article) who has absolutely no business in the NBA. He's Aaron White 2: Electric Boogaloo. When Denver drafted Lydon, I said immediately, "Well, that's a tragic waste of a 1st round pick." Don't bother trying to make Tyler Lydon happen. He's not gonna happen. And he especially shouldn't happen to the Wizards.

80sballboy · Post #1637 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:54 am

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DCZards · Post #1638 » by **DCZards** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:56 am

Shanghai Kid wrote:I understand that Durant is a way better shooter than John, but it is interesting to see the contrast in how people see Durant post achillees and how they see John.

Obviously Durant is starting at a higher level of ability, but relatively speaking most appear to think he's still going to be a top 5-10 player.

Any talk of John Wall seems to suggest that literally his career might be over. John is a full two years younger than KD but I guess it's just the whole "relying on speed" dynamic.

Cheering for John to prove people wrong.

It's sad to see so many here already giving up on JW. I'm sending nothing but positive vibes his way.

80sballboy · Post #1639 » by **80sballboy** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:05 am

DCZards wrote:
Shanghai Kid wrote:I understand that Durant is a way better shooter than John, but it is interesting to see the contrast in how people see Durant post achillees and how they see John.

Obviously Durant is starting at a higher level of ability, but relatively speaking most appear to think he's still going to be a top 5-10 player.

Any talk of John Wall seems to suggest that literally his career might be over. John is a full two years younger than KD but I guess it's just the whole "relying on speed" dynamic.

Cheering for John to prove people wrong.

It's sad to see so many here already giving up on JW. I'm sending him nothing but positive vibes.

It's the reality of dealing with an incredibly difficult injury for a point guard who relied on speed. He's not done. I don't think most think that and I don't know if he's done as an All-Star. John is a very driven person and maybe he'll change his game some and still put up 20 and 10. Point guards rarely get better after 30 and now he's dealing with an Achilles injury. He's also getting a supermax so there's that.

pcbothwel · Post #1640 » by **pcbothwel** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:05 am

gambitx777 wrote:The thing about John is yes his speed mattered ! But he is also an elite ball distribution guy and an elite court vision guy and he's great at draw contact. He will have to get crafty and he really needs to improve his shooting a bit , shot selection would help, but the defence was lack of effort not ability so if he tries he won't be to much worse off

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I hate repeating this fact, but John is not Kemba Walker. He is 6'4 with a 6'9 wingspan at 210lbs. He is the size of most 2's.
He has the build to age well so long as he gets more consistent with his defense and spot up 3.