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Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#501 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:02 am

Loved Malcolm as a player and a person, and I wish him well even on a division rival team, but if you think that he was/is the difference in winning a championship or not, then I'm gonna say that you were never sold on this team as a championship contender in the first place. One of the free agents was always gonna have to be expendable, and unfortunately it was him. They're obviously not done making moves so I'm interested to see what they do with those picks and the salary exceptions.
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#502 » by Bernman » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:03 am

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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#503 » by msiris » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:03 am

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xTitan wrote:They lostBrogdon and Mirotic, I know he struggled in the playoffs, but you are an average 3 point shooting team and just lost 2 of your best 3 point shooters.....who’s picking up that slack, Bledsoe?
Surround Giannis with shooters. When is that going to happen?


We sure did it last year. But Brogdon, Snell, and Niko out... Nobody in. Offseason's young but this is easily my biggest concern: that they've discounted what got us here because we missed too many shots against Toronto.
Just seems that people care way too much about the regular season and dismiss what happened in the ECF. We really looked bad vs a good team who played good D.
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#504 » by machu46 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:04 am

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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#505 » by H2tObes » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:04 am

I actually like that we reloaded on picks if we were going to lose him anyway. He needs to be replaced though if we want to seriously contend, curious to see who we target. Bucks performed pretty well without Brogdon last season so I can see why they thought he was expendable.
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Post#506 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:07 am

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rrayy wrote:SO, you wither want to pay 90 million to a guy who will be a malcontnent or let him walk for nothing then. You obviously have no idea just how much worse both those options are. me, I'll take the picks and the TPE to get a FA that wants to be here over your preferred options.


You can't get a FA with that TPE unless we're talking S&T.


RFA in a sign and trade?

DLo?

Can someone explain base year compensation?
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#507 » by Daver » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:07 am

For a co ach who loves his 3s im alittle worried we have a MVP tbat cant shoot 10 foot shots let alone 3s our PG bleds cant shoot 3s and midds who the hell knows with him we lost brogs our best 3 pt shooter and nico who i thought could be.
We couldnt hit 3s to save our ass against the raps now no brogs ouch
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#508 » by awd4cy » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:07 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Loved Malcolm as a player and a person, and I wish him well even on a division rival team, but if you think that he was/is the difference in winning a championship or not, then I'm gonna say that you were never sold on this team as a championship contender in the first place. One of the free agents was always gonna have to be expendable, and unfortunately it was him. They're obviously not done making moves so I'm interested to see what they do with those picks and the salary exceptions.

So we can win a championship with the same team that couldn’t last year, only to plug either Sterling Brown or Pat C in the starting lineup?
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Post#509 » by msiris » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:08 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Loved Malcolm as a player and a person, and I wish him well even on a division rival team, but if you think that he was/is the difference in winning a championship or not, then I'm gonna say that you were never sold on this team as a championship contender in the first place. One of the free agents was always gonna have to be expendable, and unfortunately it was him. They're obviously not done making moves so I'm interested to see what they do with those picks and the salary exceptions.
But you can say the same thing about Middleton. The key was having everyone back to make that run.
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Post#510 » by Licensed to Il » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:09 am

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Post#511 » by awd4cy » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:09 am

H2tObes wrote:I actually like that we reloaded on picks if we were going to lose him anyway. He needs to be replaced though if we want to seriously contend, curious to see who we target. Bucks performed pretty well without Brogdon last season so I can see why they thought he was expendable.

The Bucks also performed pretty well without Middleton last year, but instead we nearly maxed him.
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Post#512 » by LittleRooster » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:10 am

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He's a legit NBA cap guru
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#513 » by vegaspacker » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:10 am

Having picks is a big difference, cap space was a huge concern for the team. We had a pretty loaded team go to a pinnacle only to fizzle quite mightily. A presumably healthy Brogdon in the ECF proved to be a non-needle mover.

I for one had overt confidence in obtaining a championship when Brogs came back. It didn't translate, time to move on.
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Post#514 » by msiris » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:11 am

H2tObes wrote:I actually like that we reloaded on picks if we were going to lose him anyway. He needs to be replaced though if we want to seriously contend, curious to see who we target. Bucks performed pretty well without Brogdon last season so I can see why they thought he was expendable.
Ummmm. We were 11-7 without him. Without Midds we were 4-1.
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Post#515 » by James1980 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:11 am

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Post#516 » by H2tObes » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:11 am

awd4cy wrote:
H2tObes wrote:I actually like that we reloaded on picks if we were going to lose him anyway. He needs to be replaced though if we want to seriously contend, curious to see who we target. Bucks performed pretty well without Brogdon last season so I can see why they thought he was expendable.

The Bucks also performed pretty well without Middleton last year, but instead we nearly maxed him.

No one likes the amount of money Mids got, Bucks couldn't afford to lose him though. It was a **** situation.
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#517 » by Garbs_7 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:12 am

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Wash your mouth out Machu. Who is GAD... How dare you?!
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#518 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:13 am

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:Order of operations is important. First things that have to happen, are using cap space to sign Lopez or Hill, then shedding about $6 mil of salary (via Leuer stretch or Ersan dump/stretch), and using cap space to sign whichever of Lopez or Hill hasn't been signed. Then, we can, in any order, use the room mid level exception, sign Middleton, S&T Brogdon. That process DOES create a TPE.


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Post#519 » by H2tObes » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:14 am

msiris wrote:
H2tObes wrote:I actually like that we reloaded on picks if we were going to lose him anyway. He needs to be replaced though if we want to seriously contend, curious to see who we target. Bucks performed pretty well without Brogdon last season so I can see why they thought he was expendable.
Ummmm. We were 11-7 without him. Without Midds we were 4-1.

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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks 

Post#520 » by vegaspacker » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:15 am

50/40/90 guys are very impressive, his 3's were great on paper but the release on those 3's resembling underhanded free throws... were kinda fugly.
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