2019 Post draft, free agency, and trade speculation: Player Shuffle

[starbosa10]

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[Villalobos]

i hate the nba

[TeamTragic]

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[Blackification]

D'lo to warriors? We never stood a chance lol

[Villalobos]

why
why
why would you help golden state
why

[Joe Pong]

Ok so I thought about this...it sucks to hear but it's true.

There is no way in hell Ricky Rubio is worth $7m more than TJ Warren.

That's in a vacuum, without team needs or player positional demand in the market taken into account.

That being said we are a much better team than last year, and much more well rounded. Mixed feelings but at the end of the day I'm more confident in this group of players than any other Suns team in recent memory, since the Dragic teams.

I dunno. Rubio actually plays in a game every once in a while. I'm not sure this TJ Warren guy actually exists

[RedIndian]

Just as long as Kawhi doesn't sign for the Lakers, I can be ok with the off season.

We have about a 35 win team. I guess that'll be more fun than watching a 19 win team.

[starbosa10]

D'lo to warriors? We never stood a chance lol

Should help calm some people down though. Couldn't compete with the warriors

[TeamTragic]

Ok so I thought about this...it sucks to hear but it's true.

There is no way in hell Ricky Rubio is worth $7m more than TJ Warren.

That's in a vacuum, without team needs or player positional demand in the market taken into account.

That being said we are a much better team than last year, and much more well rounded. Mixed feelings but at the end of the day I'm more confident in this group of players than any other Suns team in recent memory, since the Dragic teams.

I dunno. Rubio actually plays in a game every once in a while. I'm not sure this TJ Warren guy actually exists

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[lilfishi22]

Ok so I thought about this...it sucks to hear but it's true.

There is no way in hell Ricky Rubio is worth $7m more than TJ Warren.

That's in a vacuum, without team needs or player positional demand in the market taken into account.

That being said we are a much better team than last year, and much more well rounded. Mixed feelings but at the end of the day I'm more confident in this group of players than any other Suns team in recent memory, since the Dragic teams.

It's really $4.5m difference. TJ's average salary is $12.5m and Rubio's is $17m

Anyway, I don't think Rubio $5m is better than TJ in a vacuum but I think you could find that value if the players he's with collectively gets better through his playmaking and defense. If Ayton gets set up better to the tune of 5ppg more and at similar efficiency, if Booker is able to lift his 3PT% to the high 30's or 40's taking more spot up shots or if Mikal is able to play better defense by not being the only defender out there most of the time. I think you could justify the difference in contract value.

[Stix]

Willie Cauley-Stein is still out there, might be worth our interest to bring in a Booker buddy to make up for not being able to land Dlo. Back up PF

[Christine-In-AZ]

David Griffin is GM of the year. His 2 month resume is legendary!! He should have been the Suns GM but Sarver Sarvered.

Yea legendary hookup on that draft pick. Silver is the real legend.

Lakers-Pels make that trade whether the LAL pick is at #4 or #11. The Lakers paid a buck forty to the dollar for Davis.

So what was Silver's motivation to knock the Knicks down to #3 and gift Zion to NO instead? The talk for months amongst the "it's rigged" folks was ..."of course the Knicks are getting Zion cuz big money, big ratings from the massive NY market"

[Blackification]

Warriors get D'lo but lose durant, lakers get AD, Clippers might get Kawhi.. can't win man move us east

[lilfishi22]

Willie Cauley-Stein is still out there, might be worth our interest to bring in a Booker buddy to make up for not being able to land Dlo. Back up PF

WCS and Booker are mates?

[Ghost of Kleine]

I think the Wolves might get kind of desperate if some team doesn't bite, like GS won't take them...and teams will really start trying to pry 1sts and Culver from them to take Teague and Dieng or especially Wiggins. I'll be surprised if they move them without moving something valuable.

If they lose Covington I think they might have a tough time being very good, even with DLo...I think in that case we might be as good. Their other players are young.

Covington REALLY covers SO much on defense for them. Probably at this point easily the best wing defender in the NBA and can really guard all 5 positions at times.

Which is why If we lost out on Oubre to a big offer, I wanted him in a trade for taking back Teague for them. And even suggested taking Teague and Covington together ( of course then stretching Johnson and Jackson). A hefty price for each team to pay to be sure, But IF we had ended up missing out on our main targets( which we kind of did anyways) . And they'd have to consider it as sending out Covington and Teague together would afford them 30 million for Russell without having to try and find a taker for Wiggins( an impossible task).

With that trade, I just figured why not get the best talent we could possibly pry from a team that is becoming increasingly desperate to achieve cap space to sign Russell? Teague isn't a wonderful option, But he'd be the actual point guard version of Tyler Johnson's expiring contract for us. And we'd head into 2020 with a 20 million expiring and Robert Covington as compensation for our sacrifice.

Not a terrible last resort option I think. Add high end talent in Covington that could really cover the 3/4 for us next to Ayton. And address our point guard needs with a productive veteran stop gap expiring. And if they say no to Covington, that's fine, although they risk losing out on Russell then still. But at that point, I'd demand Culver and a lightly protected 2020 first. Their choice or no deal.

It really depends upon how badly they want to appease Towns and land Russell before another team does.

I have a hard time believing they will actually give up Covington though. I'd give up a protected first before that if they really want to maximize the team with Russell and Towns. Covington is a pretty hefty payment for just Teague. A lightly protected first seems better...they are a team with enough young guys too, especially if they get Russell.

Nothing wrong with that too man, although I'd really like to try and swindle Culver from them though.....It would just feel like we were able to somehow further correct the bad draft if we could. And I'd also love to see him at the 2/3 defensively alongside of Bridges too. I think that'd be a really impressive versatile defensive combination on each wing.

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[phx#7]

Willie Cauley-Stein is still out there, might be worth our interest to bring in a Booker buddy to make up for not being able to land Dlo. Back up PF

He is pretty much the opposite of everything Jones has said he is looking for.

[Moochthemonkey]

David Griffin is GM of the year. His 2 month resume is legendary!! He should have been the Suns GM but Sarver Sarvered.

Yea legendary hookup on that draft pick. Silver is the real legend.

Minus Zion who was a no-brainer, Girffin still made some of the best moves this off season.

what am I missing?
he lost a franchise player for Ingram (who has a serious injury) the Ball drama Josh Hart and the 4th pick, which was used to get rid of Solomon's albatross contract
JJ Reddick is a nice pickup

but legendary IMO would be managing to keep Davis with Zion and acquire an additional star instead of starting a rebuild