Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls

[Andrew McCeltic]

Himmelsbach at the Globe said they agreed to the Rozier/Kemba swap to leave open three-team scenarios..

Not sure there’s a way to do Rozier to CHA, Kemba to BOS, Horford and Richardson to PHI, Butler to MIA..we wouldn’t be able to take back anyone else from Miami in that case..

-- I'm not sure what Kemba's starting salary needs to be -- does anybody have that figure? -- but I imagine it's less than $35 million.
-- Horford's starting salary could probably be $26 million plus if Philly so chose.
-- The Hornets/Rozier rumor has half his salary being as much as $9 million.
-- Baynes is at $5.453 million.

So just with that we have $35ish million coming in and $40ish million going out. But with $40ish million going out we COULD have $50ish million coming in. So unless I'm missing something, there's plenty of opportunity to take in, for example, Olynyk's salary.

Of course, any such analysis ignores the issue of luxury tax repeater penalties.

Kemba's contract will take us to 109 million in payroll, we can go about 22 million higher without being tax repeaters.. assume we use the full MLE, that becomes 13 million.. so we couldn't take back two players from Miami - we'd go into the luxury tax again and we're hard-capped..

[Roddy]

Find on the GB

C Embiid 7-0
PF Horford 6-10
SF Harris 6-9
SG Richardson 6-6
PG Simmons 6-10

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Himmelsbach at the Globe said they agreed to the Rozier/Kemba swap to leave open three-team scenarios..

Not sure there’s a way to do Rozier to CHA, Kemba to BOS, Horford and Richardson to PHI, Butler to MIA..we wouldn’t be able to take back anyone else from Miami in that case..

-- I'm not sure what Kemba's starting salary needs to be -- does anybody have that figure? -- but I imagine it's less than $35 million.
-- Horford's starting salary could probably be $26 million plus if Philly so chose.
-- The Hornets/Rozier rumor has half his salary being as much as $9 million.
-- Baynes is at $5.453 million.

So just with that we have $35ish million coming in and $40ish million going out. But with $40ish million going out we COULD have $50ish million coming in. So unless I'm missing something, there's plenty of opportunity to take in, for example, Olynyk's salary.

Problem is with Miami end and the players they're willing/able to give out in the trade. They need about $26.1 outgoing to match Jimmy's $32.7 incoming salary. If Philly wants Richardson ($10.1) to be the player coming back to them, That leaves Dragic ($19.2), Anderson ($21.3), or Whiteside ($27.1) coming back. We don't need/want Dragic. Anderson and Whiteside's salaries are too big and really not that worth it to throw out more players for from our end. If we just ask for picks, they would have to find a 4th team to dump any of those three players on, which would require further compensation.

Maybe Whiteside's expiring?

[LarryBirdsFingr]

So are Williams and brown gonna enter a local battle of the bands competition or

[zoyathedestroya]

Himmelsbach at the Globe said they agreed to the Rozier/Kemba swap to leave open three-team scenarios..

Not sure there’s a way to do Rozier to CHA, Kemba to BOS, Horford and Richardson to PHI, Butler to MIA..we wouldn’t be able to take back anyone else from Miami in that case..

-- I'm not sure what Kemba's starting salary needs to be -- does anybody have that figure? -- but I imagine it's less than $35 million.
-- Horford's starting salary could probably be $26 million plus if Philly so chose.
-- The Hornets/Rozier rumor has half his salary being as much as $9 million.
-- Baynes is at $5.453 million.

So just with that we have $35ish million coming in and $40ish million going out. But with $40ish million going out we COULD have $50ish million coming in. So unless I'm missing something, there's plenty of opportunity to take in, for example, Olynyk's salary.

Of course, any such analysis ignores the issue of luxury tax repeater penalties.

Kemba's contract will take us to 109 million in payroll, we can go about 22 million higher without being tax repeaters.. assume we use the full MLE, that becomes 13 million.. so we couldn't take back two players from Miami - we'd go into the luxury tax again and we're hard-capped..

We can't take any more contracts without having enough salary to give out.

Assuming Fencer's estimations are correct, we'd have $40M outgoing for $50M incoming salary. Kemba's salary is at $32.7M. That leaves $17.3M we can take on.

Use the one on the right column.


Heat aren't giving up Adebayo. So what combo of two players can you fit into that $17.3? We can only get one player with the other player going to a 4th team. Oylynk's salary (going to Celtics) is too small to combine with Richardson's (going to Sixers) to make a legal match.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

-- I'm not sure what Kemba's starting salary needs to be -- does anybody have that figure? -- but I imagine it's less than $35 million.
-- Horford's starting salary could probably be $26 million plus if Philly so chose.
-- The Hornets/Rozier rumor has half his salary being as much as $9 million.
-- Baynes is at $5.453 million.

So just with that we have $35ish million coming in and $40ish million going out. But with $40ish million going out we COULD have $50ish million coming in. So unless I'm missing something, there's plenty of opportunity to take in, for example, Olynyk's salary.

Of course, any such analysis ignores the issue of luxury tax repeater penalties.

Kemba's contract will take us to 109 million in payroll, we can go about 22 million higher without being tax repeaters.. assume we use the full MLE, that becomes 13 million.. so we couldn't take back two players from Miami - we'd go into the luxury tax again and we're hard-capped..

We can't take any more contracts without having enough salary to give out.

Assuming Fencer's estimations are correct, we'd have $40M outgoing for $50M incoming salary. Kemba's salary is at $32.7M. That leaves $17.3M we can take on.



Heat aren't giving up Adebayo. So what combo of two players can you fit into that $17.3? We can only get one player with the other player going to a 4th team. Oylynk's salary (going to Celtics) is too small to combine with Richardson's (going to Sixers) to make a legal match.

Hmm this does seem pretty close

[zoyathedestroya]

Kemba's contract will take us to 109 million in payroll, we can go about 22 million higher without being tax repeaters.. assume we use the full MLE, that becomes 13 million.. so we couldn't take back two players from Miami - we'd go into the luxury tax again and we're hard-capped..

We can't take any more contracts without having enough salary to give out.

Assuming Fencer's estimations are correct, we'd have $40M outgoing for $50M incoming salary. Kemba's salary is at $32.7M. That leaves $17.3M we can take on.

Spoiler:

Heat aren't giving up Adebayo. So what combo of two players can you fit into that $17.3? We can only get one player with the other player going to a 4th team. Oylynk's salary (going to Celtics) is too small to combine with Richardson's (going to Sixers) to make a legal match.

Hmm this does seem pretty close

Pretty close to making my head explode, yes.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

We can't take any more contracts without having enough salary to give out.

Assuming Fencer's estimations are correct, we'd have $40M outgoing for $50M incoming salary. Kemba's salary is at $32.7M. That leaves $17.3M we can take on.

Spoiler:

Heat aren't giving up Adebayo. So what combo of two players can you fit into that $17.3? We can only get one player with the other player going to a 4th team. Oylynk's salary (going to Celtics) is too small to combine with Richardson's (going to Sixers) to make a legal match.

Hmm this does seem pretty close

Pretty close to making my head explode, yes.

Too many maths

[zoyathedestroya]

Hmm this does seem pretty close

Pretty close to making my head explode, yes.

Too many maths

Life was simpler when we were just signing scrubs like Vitor Faverani, Chris Babb, and Chris Johnson.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Pretty close to making my head explode, yes.

Too many maths

Life was simpler when we were just signing scrubs like Vitor Faverani, Chris Babb, and Chris Johnson.

Chris **** Johnson

[reload141]

Can’t wait to wake up to see us sign someone who’s 6’9.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Can’t wait to wake up to see us sign someone who’s 6’9.

That's asking a lot, don't you think? I for one welcome the all oopa loompa squad.

[Tatumfor2]

5 minutes without a post? You all finally went to bed?

[LarryBirdsFingr]

5 minutes without a post? You all finally went to bed?

Not i

[reload141]

Can’t wait to wake up to see us sign someone who’s 6’9.

That's asking a lot, don't you think? I for one welcome the all oopa loompa squad.

Thought I’d reach, but you’re right.

Incoming another PG!

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Can’t wait to wake up to see us sign someone who’s 6’9.

That's asking a lot, don't you think? I for one welcome the all oopa loompa squad.

Thought I’d reach, but you’re right.

Incoming another PG!

Let's just give IT the remaining dollars and completely sabotage the season

[aim2please]

Kawhi to the Lakers. GG rest of the league

[KGboss]

Sad we missed out on Favors

Kemba is a nice signing but watching Brooklyn become legit, Horford going to philly, and now waking up to this Kawhi to Lakers rumor seeming official...**** off....I could stomach kyrie going there, but Kawhi is legit for years to come. Another carry team for Lebron. **** douche nozzle.

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[KGboss]

Celtics should sign Cousins and give him a year to fix his career since we arent winning **** anyway

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[Floody100]

Celtics should sign Cousins and give him a year to fix his career since we arent winning **** anyway

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No.