WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option)

[Sprewell4Three]

My point is evaluating a player solely on DRPM is ridiculous.

no it’s not lol

Care to elaborate? Is KAT a garbage player? Klay Thompson was on several championship teams with a negative DRPM; is he also a garbage player?

Don’t listen to him, he’s the same guy that thought Steph Curry was going to be a bust and was adamant about it.

[thebuzzardman]

Is it just me, or does Randle sound like a bad fit with Barrett?

I think it's you

A few vague arguments against (offensive side of the ball only)

Con - He doesn't "stretch the floor enough". Well, he's not Mirotic or Anderson or even Tobias Harris at PF, but he can shoot jumpers and he does hit 3's, and at a decent clip. People want to make it sound like he's Othello Harrington or something - a post only player.

Pro - He's a versatile scorer who has to be accounted for defensively wherever he is, he'll move without the ball himself, and he'll find players who cut with passes. He'll take the ball to the rim to score, but also to kick to shooters or drop an interior pass. If Barrett cuts, and his Canadian team play says he will (plus Duke) then Randle will find him.

Pro - should provide some offensive gravity to draw defenders, carry some scoring, take some pressure off Barrett in game and over the season

Con - Randle seems to thrive where he has the ball in his hands, the offense is spread, and he goes from outside to in, beating slower defenders. Can Barrett, Knox, DSJr, Mitch - if this is a lineup - shoot enough to provide enough spacing for this version of Randle to work. A side note - Randle can play other ways too.

Potential Con - if Randle isn't exactly knockdown from the perimeter, maybe his man cheats to Barrett when Barrett posts up, something he can do to other guards. Then again, Randle looks to cut and is good on the move, so I think that mitigates some of that.

I don't think he's specifically bad for RJ at all, in fact, somewhat helpful

[Knicksfan20]

They traded KP, who’s the best international player of this coming decade

Hmm, are you a 100% certain of that?

Until his knee blows out again.

[vincccent]

They traded KP, who’s the best international player of this coming decade

Is Slovenia in the US?

[blanko]

rj needs another guy who can score and take the some of offensive pressure off him. Knox will thrive as the 3rd option feasting off cuts and kick out 3's. I kevin knox getting his min and asked to do things he should thrive in. He is not ready to handle the ball yet.

[Fat Kat]

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[PornDoc]

Player for player, and dollar for dollar, I'd rather have JR over either of the two guys Philly signed today.

They got Josh Richardson too if that Butler swap goes through. The sixers are gonna be fine.

That's not my concern. I think Randle is a better signing than Tobias or Horford.

[blueNorange]

dumbass franchise.

got the second worst defensive center the past 3 years.

Good thing he wont play center for us.

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what position then? because he’s not a power forward.

now add gibson and porter and say goodbye to robinson starting.

fiz hates developing players, that was his rep and it’s proving to be true.

[Gus McCrae]

Lakerfan here, my second favorite team is the Knicks.

You guys will really like Julius Randle, he gets after it. He's one of the toughest/strongest players in the NBA and is an absolute dog. He will get buckets. His passing is underrated as he makes some surprisingly good passes and he used to play point forward for our team and did well at it. He's not a great shooter but he can definitely hit a jumper if he's open, not really a good shooter off the dribble (unless he improved that in New Orleans.) He can dribble well in the open floor and finish in traffic.

The main knock on him would be he tends to get tunnel vision. Maybe that's why his random dimes are impressive because 90% of the time he gets the ball in the halfcourt and dribbles once,he's going to the basket. Despite that, he's still efficient. I wonder if the Knicks would ever try him as point forward and let him play the distributor role, that could be a good move.

Anyways, wishing him the best. Of all the Laker lottery picks we've dumped (D'Lo, Ball, Ingram, Randle) he was definitely the most committed and reliable. Hope he plays well for you

[blueNorange]

My point is evaluating a player solely on DRPM is ridiculous.

no it’s not lol

Care to elaborate? Is KAT a garbage player? Klay Thompson was on several championship teams with a negative DRPM; is he also a garbage player?

it means klay isn’t a good defensive player.

[NoLayupRule]

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i gotta say that at least there is some forethought to this team finally

2 year options on everyone
time to asses the talent, time to build a core, time to develop without free agency next summer looming

no pressure

Randal as a young piece at the 4/5 in todays game is not a bad pickup
if we can get him to play some D it'll be interesting

[ITGM]

Ya'll don't even realize it yet, but we just got a BEAST and a major piece in Julius Randle. Three years at 63 mil with a team option is a straight jack move by the Knicks.

[blueNorange]

celtics signed kanter to 2 year 10 mill and knicks got this bum for way more.

even more of a dumb signing.

[blueNorange]

Ya'll don't even realize it yet, but we just got a BEAST and a major piece in Julius Randle. Three years at 63 mil with a team option is a straight jack move by the Knicks.

you're not a beast if you don't play a lick of defense.

[jstudabaka]

Is it just me, or does Randle sound like a bad fit with Barrett?

I think it's you

A few vague arguments against (offensive side of the ball only)

Con - He doesn't "stretch the floor enough". Well, he's not Mirotic or Anderson or even Tobias Harris at PF, but he can shoot jumpers and he does hit 3's, and at a decent clip. People want to make it sound like he's Othello Harrington or something - a post only player.

Pro - He's a versatile scorer who has to be accounted for defensively wherever he is, he'll move without the ball himself, and he'll find players who cut with passes. He'll take the ball to the rim to score, but also to kick to shooters or drop an interior pass. If Barrett cuts, and his Canadian team play says he will (plus Duke) then Randle will find him.

Pro - should provide some offensive gravity to draw defenders, carry some scoring, take some pressure off Barrett in game and over the season

Con - Randle seems to thrive where he has the ball in his hands, the offense is spread, and he goes from outside to in, beating slower defenders. Can Barrett, Knox, DSJr, Mitch - if this is a lineup - shoot enough to provide enough spacing for this version of Randle to work. A side note - Randle can play other ways too.

Potential Con - if Randle isn't exactly knockdown from the perimeter, maybe his man cheats to Barrett when Barrett posts up, something he can do to other guards. Then again, Randle looks to cut and is good on the move, so I think that mitigates some of that.

I don't think he's specifically bad for RJ at all, in fact, somewhat helpful

I think you make some good points, but Randle's profile as someone who doesn't shoot particularly well and excels at beating slower defenders from the outside-in led me to think that he'd be someone operating in Barrett's space.

[thebuzzardman]

dumbass franchise.

got the second worst defensive center the past 3 years.

Good thing he wont play center for us.

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what position then? because he’s not a power forward.

now add gibson and porter and say goodbye to robinson starting.

fiz hates developing players, that was his rep and it’s proving to be true.

Gibson is mostly a center now. Randle is a 4/5. Mitch could still start

[NoLayupRule]

Randle will be fun to watch

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[E-Balla]

As someone that's been big on Randle since he was in HS and have always thought he'd be a multiple time All Star at some point (not perennial but maybe 2 to 4 times) I want to address this post because RJ and Julius aren't a good fit really (especially with DSJ too).

Pro - He's a versatile scorer who has to be accounted for defensively wherever he is, he'll move without the ball himself, and he'll find players who cut with passes. He'll take the ball to the rim to score, but also to kick to shooters or drop an interior pass. If Barrett cuts, and his Canadian team play says he will (plus Duke) then Randle will find him.

Not at all. He can shoot spot up 3s and score inside. Outside of that he's not good. His midrange J is weak, and he can't shoot off the bounce. One of his biggest weaknesses is his lack of versatility. His off ball game (in terms of cutting, setting picks, etc) leaves much to be desired but he learned to shoot so maybe he'll continue to improve there. He's basically Blake once he first started to learn how to shoot with less athleticism and without being a great PNR big.

Pro - should provide some offensive gravity to draw defenders, carry some scoring, take some pressure off Barrett in game and over the season

This would only be a pro if RJ had an offball game but he doesn't. RJ really killed Zion's production at Duke mainly because Coach K didn't want to give Zion the ball more while RJ was on the floor because he knew their offense would fall way off. It's something RJ needs to learn to do someday but I have no reason to believe this will help his production.

Our biggest issue right now is that our 4 most talented offensive players need the ball and open lanes to drive to the rim to function. If Fiz can figure out how to get anything but a terrible offense out of that he has to be great.

[Handledatruth]

celtics signed kanter to 2 year 10 mill and knicks got this bum for way more.

even more of a dumb signing.

You dont think Randle is a better player? More a curiosity question than a challenge to your opinion.

[blueNorange]

celtics signed kanter to 2 year 10 mill and knicks got this bum for way more.

even more of a dumb signing.

You dont think Randle is a better player? More a curiosity question than a challenge to your opinion.

better doesn't mean he's good

ppl gotta stop falling for players that drop 20 yet give up 24 on the other end.