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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#561 » by Infinitimind » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:02 pm

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Better distributor off the court than on it. :(

No sir..



I’m also high on him, he is not a finish product and he has already shown the ability to get to the basket and finish and create for others. Top of the nba in the league in athletic ability. Have the coaches work With him on his shot the entire summer. 15 and 5 this year, if he get that to 18 and 8 that will be big for us . Remember a lot wanted a rebuild, these kids need time to develope and are not finish products.
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Post#562 » by Juco24 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:52 am

After the free Agency events... it's obvious that the Knicks are going to give DSJ an opportunity to be the long term answer at PG. I'm rooting for him
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Post#563 » by knickabocker88 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:01 am

Juco24 wrote:After the free Agency events... it's obvious that the Knicks are going to give DSJ an opportunity to be the long term answer at PG. I'm rooting for him


Gonna ruin RJ before he even had a chance

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Post#564 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:13 pm

Smith is a young player still in development. On the Knicks, he assisted on 32.9% of his teammates made shots, according to Cleaning the Glass, in the 87% percentile for point guards. Excluding his last two games, which he played injured, he averaged 6.0 assists to 2.4 turnovers (a ratio of 2.5) as a Knick. Passing phenom and now-Pelican Lonzo Ball, and DSJ’s draft classmate, had the same ratio on slightly fewer assists this past season.


Is his shot completely broken? Although his seasonal average went up only one percentage point (going from 31% his rookie year to 32% his sophomore season) he started off the season hot from deep. For the first 28 games of the season, he shot 37.5% from three on 3.7 attempts per game before injuring his wrist in November. This is not a short, week-long sample size. Twenty-eight games is over a quarter of the season.

Even during his rookie year, he shot 37.2 % on catch-and-shoot from behind the three point line.


Defensively, Smith is severely underrated. Bigger guys are often surprised by how well he can stretch his arms and box them. As a Knick, his steal and block percentage are both in the 80% percentile range for point guards.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#565 » by Newyorknick94 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:22 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Smith is a young player still in development. On the Knicks, he assisted on 32.9% of his teammates made shots, according to Cleaning the Glass, in the 87% percentile for point guards. Excluding his last two games, which he played injured, he averaged 6.0 assists to 2.4 turnovers (a ratio of 2.5) as a Knick. Passing phenom and now-Pelican Lonzo Ball, and DSJ’s draft classmate, had the same ratio on slightly fewer assists this past season.


Is his shot completely broken? Although his seasonal average went up only one percentage point (going from 31% his rookie year to 32% his sophomore season) he started off the season hot from deep. For the first 28 games of the season, he shot 37.5% from three on 3.7 attempts per game before injuring his wrist in November. This is not a short, week-long sample size. Twenty-eight games is over a quarter of the season.

Even during his rookie year, he shot 37.2 % on catch-and-shoot from behind the three point line.


Defensively, Smith is severely underrated. Bigger guys are often surprised by how well he can stretch his arms and box them. As a Knick, his steal and block percentage are both in the 80% percentile range for point guards.

Dsj wasn’t bad last year he was a better passer than I expected him to be people are talking about him likes he’s mudiay out here let the kid develop all he needs is a jumper
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#566 » by robillionaire » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:23 pm

DSJ is our PG. We should be supportive of our young players. Get on board everybody.
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Post#567 » by robillionaire » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:24 pm

DSJ is a willing passer. He turns the ball over too much but that will hopefully improve with more reps. He's not a selfish player like Mudiay. He can actually penetrate and then find the open man.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#568 » by DOT » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:28 pm

robillionaire wrote:DSJ is a willing passer. He turns the ball over too much but that will hopefully improve with more reps. He's not a selfish player like Mudiay. He can actually penetrate and then find the open man.

Biggest difference is DSJ's fine with passing the ball and letting a play develop without necessarily getting an assist, Mudiay isn't

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Post#569 » by fatalogic » Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:58 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Smith is a young player still in development. On the Knicks, he assisted on 32.9% of his teammates made shots, according to Cleaning the Glass, in the 87% percentile for point guards. Excluding his last two games, which he played injured, he averaged 6.0 assists to 2.4 turnovers (a ratio of 2.5) as a Knick. Passing phenom and now-Pelican Lonzo Ball, and DSJ’s draft classmate, had the same ratio on slightly fewer assists this past season.


Is his shot completely broken? Although his seasonal average went up only one percentage point (going from 31% his rookie year to 32% his sophomore season) he started off the season hot from deep. For the first 28 games of the season, he shot 37.5% from three on 3.7 attempts per game before injuring his wrist in November. This is not a short, week-long sample size. Twenty-eight games is over a quarter of the season.

Even during his rookie year, he shot 37.2 % on catch-and-shoot from behind the three point line.


Defensively, Smith is severely underrated. Bigger guys are often surprised by how well he can stretch his arms and box them. As a Knick, his steal and block percentage are both in the 80% percentile range for point guards.


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Post#570 » by Juco24 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 3:44 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
Smith is a young player still in development. On the Knicks, he assisted on 32.9% of his teammates made shots, according to Cleaning the Glass, in the 87% percentile for point guards. Excluding his last two games, which he played injured, he averaged 6.0 assists to 2.4 turnovers (a ratio of 2.5) as a Knick. Passing phenom and now-Pelican Lonzo Ball, and DSJ’s draft classmate, had the same ratio on slightly fewer assists this past season.


Is his shot completely broken? Although his seasonal average went up only one percentage point (going from 31% his rookie year to 32% his sophomore season) he started off the season hot from deep. For the first 28 games of the season, he shot 37.5% from three on 3.7 attempts per game before injuring his wrist in November. This is not a short, week-long sample size. Twenty-eight games is over a quarter of the season.

Even during his rookie year, he shot 37.2 % on catch-and-shoot from behind the three point line.


Defensively, Smith is severely underrated. Bigger guys are often surprised by how well he can stretch his arms and box them. As a Knick, his steal and block percentage are both in the 80% percentile range for point guards.

Dsj wasn’t bad last year he was a better passer than I expected him to be people are talking about him likes he’s mudiay out here let the kid develop all he needs is a jumper


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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#571 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:12 pm

fatalogic wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Smith is a young player still in development. On the Knicks, he assisted on 32.9% of his teammates made shots, according to Cleaning the Glass, in the 87% percentile for point guards. Excluding his last two games, which he played injured, he averaged 6.0 assists to 2.4 turnovers (a ratio of 2.5) as a Knick. Passing phenom and now-Pelican Lonzo Ball, and DSJ’s draft classmate, had the same ratio on slightly fewer assists this past season.


Is his shot completely broken? Although his seasonal average went up only one percentage point (going from 31% his rookie year to 32% his sophomore season) he started off the season hot from deep. For the first 28 games of the season, he shot 37.5% from three on 3.7 attempts per game before injuring his wrist in November. This is not a short, week-long sample size. Twenty-eight games is over a quarter of the season.

Even during his rookie year, he shot 37.2 % on catch-and-shoot from behind the three point line.


Defensively, Smith is severely underrated. Bigger guys are often surprised by how well he can stretch his arms and box them. As a Knick, his steal and block percentage are both in the 80% percentile range for point guards.


Link to full article or is this the whole thing?

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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#572 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 5:31 pm

It's worth giving Smith a shot. I would still however like to see the Knicks add a veteran PG that Smith might actually listen to (either because that vet has the toughness to force Smith to listen or because Smith respects). If they are big on giving 2 year $10 million contracts, maybe they should give it to Rondo. I can see Rondo being someone that can connect to Smith and get Smith to listen to. Let Rondo impart all that he knows about what it takes to win in the NBA. He's had plenty of experience and has no qualms about telling it like it is. I do think a lot of young players respect him.
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Post#573 » by Sark » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:59 pm

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Post#574 » by CharlesOakley » Tue Jul 2, 2019 2:59 pm

Elfrid is a better passer and the same quality shooter. Highlight dunks don't win games. I'm hoping this kid fixed his shot mechanics.
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Post#575 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:15 pm

Former Advanced NBA scout on DSJ’s shot. Should I trust him or the shooting coaches on our board :lol:
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Post#576 » by Juco24 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 6:25 pm

As it often times during the summer we look at training videos to try and get a feel for how our guys are progressing and how they'll look the following season. Sometimes it's a good measuring point and other times notsomuch (see Carmelo Anthony). Point is while Knox (looks good) and I bet Frank will look improved.... just what is DSJ up to? He probably has the most to prove than anyone and we've seen are skits? He wasn't in Vegas like many. I just have concerns and think if anyone sulks because of playing time it will be him.
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Post#577 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 6, 2019 7:59 pm

Juco24 wrote:As it often times during the summer we look at training videos to try and get a feel for how our guys are progressing and how they'll look the following season. Sometimes it's a good measuring point and other times notsomuch (see Carmelo Anthony). Point is while Knox (looks good) and I bet Frank will look improved.... just what is DSJ up to? He probably has the most to prove than anyone and we've seen are skits? He wasn't in Vegas like many. I just have concerns and think if anyone sulks because of playing time it will be him.

I went on his story on IG and he put he’s in Vegas. Also in the gym working. Just cause he isn’t putting out training videos all the time like Frank, don’t assume he isn’t putting in the work.
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Post#578 » by blueNorange » Sat Jul 6, 2019 8:21 pm

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Post#579 » by Juco24 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 8:32 pm

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Juco24 wrote:As it often times during the summer we look at training videos to try and get a feel for how our guys are progressing and how they'll look the following season. Sometimes it's a good measuring point and other times notsomuch (see Carmelo Anthony). Point is while Knox (looks good) and I bet Frank will look improved.... just what is DSJ up to? He probably has the most to prove than anyone and we've seen are skits? He wasn't in Vegas like many. I just have concerns and think if anyone sulks because of playing time it will be him.

I went on his story on IG and he put he’s in Vegas. Also in the gym working. Just cause he isn’t putting out training videos all the time like Frank, don’t assume he isn’t putting in the work.


Good info and Never assuming.... please don't assume I'm assuming. Lol
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