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Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls

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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#781 » by sully00 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:02 pm

Writebloc wrote:Which of the bigs left on the market can effectively set picks and get rebounds - oh and not get embarrassed defensively, that's what Ainge needs to acquire. Or else there has to be a trade in the works. Why bother with half measures in signing Kemba if you aren't going to provide him a big to set him screens and make him an effective pick and roll player. Richaun Holmes is a name that still has intrigue for me is he still available?


Your panicking. There are moves yet to be completed. The Butler trade is a big deal if he can't get a S&T done with HOU or MIA that may change a lot of things around the league. Ainge magically pulls Kemba out of a hat after Kyrie and Al walk let him do his thing. It doesn't matter how many other FA's sign with other teams what is important is that Ainge gets the right guy at the right price for Boston.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#782 » by Froob » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:03 pm

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BigTrade92 wrote:While you surely jest, once upon a time Embiid had just as much "skill" as Tacko.

Clearly there's room for improvement, but the kid has the tools to do it.

Well, i'm jesting both ways. Tacko is my binky and I expect him to make it in the NBA. By make it though, I mean 5-10 mpg off the bench kind of like Boban. Situational player. Maybe not even for us. We will see.

I'm with you. A Boban-esque type of impact is plenty fine by me.

Can Tacko shoot?
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#783 » by Darth Celtic » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:05 pm

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Darth Celtic wrote:Well, i'm jesting both ways. Tacko is my binky and I expect him to make it in the NBA. By make it though, I mean 5-10 mpg off the bench kind of like Boban. Situational player. Maybe not even for us. We will see.

I'm with you. A Boban-esque type of impact is plenty fine by me.

Can Tacko shoot?

Well, he doesn't miss from where he should shoot from, right under the basket.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#784 » by Froob » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:08 pm

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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#785 » by sully00 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:08 pm

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Darth Celtic wrote:Well, i'm jesting both ways. Tacko is my binky and I expect him to make it in the NBA. By make it though, I mean 5-10 mpg off the bench kind of like Boban. Situational player. Maybe not even for us. We will see.

I'm with you. A Boban-esque type of impact is plenty fine by me.

Can Tacko shoot?

No. He is a huge defensive presence who is going to get expolited in the pick and roll and he can dunk and finish at the rim but has no real offensive game outside of 5 ft.
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Post#786 » by robdog_5 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:08 pm

Basically it seems like it would be better to check back in 3 or 4 days.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#787 » by Froob » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:12 pm

Hm

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Pretty sure Kings are outta money, hopefully they don’t max Looney somehow
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Post#788 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:16 pm

Froob wrote:Hm

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Pretty sure Kings are outta money, hopefully they don’t max Looney somehow



Cousins on a similar GSW deal is probably best case scenario for us now.


Somebody explain to me why we traded Baynes if we were using a sign and trade to get Kemba? I just don't understand any of it. Could we not have kept his 5M and added it to Semi and Yabu to match a trade for a C making around 12M or so? If the sign and trade still forces us to renounce Morris and not get a full MLE. What was the point of it? I'm so confused.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#789 » by Froob » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:17 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Froob wrote:Hm

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Pretty sure Kings are outta money, hopefully they don’t max Looney somehow



Cousins on a similar GSW deal is probably best case scenario for us now.


Somebody explain to me why we traded Baynes if we were using a sign and trade to get Kemba? I just don't understand any of it. Could we not have kept his 5M and added it to Semi and Yabu to match a trade for a C making around 12M or so? If the sign and trade still forces us to renounce Morris and not get a full MLE. What was the point of it? I'm so confused.

Well we needed to have the ability to straight up sign him before Charlotte helps us do it.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#790 » by Writebloc » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:17 pm

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Writebloc wrote:Which of the bigs left on the market can effectively set picks and get rebounds - oh and not get embarrassed defensively, that's what Ainge needs to acquire. Or else there has to be a trade in the works. Why bother with half measures in signing Kemba if you aren't going to provide him a big to set him screens and make him an effective pick and roll player. Richaun Holmes is a name that still has intrigue for me is he still available?


Your panicking. There are moves yet to be completed. The Butler trade is a big deal if he can't get a S&T done with HOU or MIA that may change a lot of things around the league. Ainge magically pulls Kemba out of a hat after Kyrie and Al walk let him do his thing. It doesn't matter how many other FA's sign with other teams what is important is that Ainge gets the right guy at the right price for Boston.


Maybe - but it does seem like a glaring hole in the line up. At this point the sign and trade stuff feels like a golden ring to point to distract from the very real need the Celtics have? I get it is day one of free agency, but I'm allowed to feel my feelings! :wink:
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Post#791 » by CSL_1904 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:18 pm

Danny has messed it up again. That's basically it.
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Post#792 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:20 pm

Someone post the Celtics "do something" meme
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Post#793 » by Froob » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:20 pm

CSL_1904 wrote:Danny has messed it up again. That's basically it.

People would be saying this if we had gotten Kyrie KD AD but didn’t sign a center lol.
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Post#794 » by BillTheGOAT » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:20 pm

Is there really a no Cousins policy in Boston?

The talent is there, but his legs are shot. I think he has both a quad tear that hasnt healed properly and achilles issue.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#795 » by snowman » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:20 pm

I think Boston will use whatever exception we get to sign WCS. Sac has rejected his QO before FA started and gone in a different direction. He is an upgrade over timelord (at this time) but both play a similar game. I also see us signing Kaminsky for the vet min as sort of a Brook Lopez lite. I also think we will bring over Poirier. That will give us:

c- WCS, Timelord, Poirier (Tacko as 2-way)
pf- Tatum, Theis, Williams, Kaminsky


not ideal, but is better defensively than Kanter, and much less of a headache than Boogie or Noel. Just my hunch
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#796 » by Mr Loggins » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:20 pm

Writebloc wrote:Which of the bigs left on the market can effectively set picks and get rebounds - oh and not get embarrassed defensively, that's what Ainge needs to acquire. Or else there has to be a trade in the works. Why bother with half measures in signing Kemba if you aren't going to provide him a big to set him screens and make him an effective pick and roll player. Richaun Holmes is a name that still has intrigue for me is he still available?


cavs have tristan thompson. He’s got rebounds and picks coming out the ass. All for the low
cost of the memphis pick
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Post#797 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:21 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:Is there really a no Cousins policy i Boston

The talent is there, but his legs are shot. I think he has both a quad tear that hasnt healed properly and achilles issue.

There better be, because it's almost time to boogie.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#798 » by SparringPartner » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:21 pm

sully00 wrote:The best thing for the team is for Hayward to embrace that 6th man role.


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Post#799 » by Darth Celtic » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:21 pm

We probably didn't get word that Kemba was even a thing until after the draft when we made the trade. I think we were looking to have 25m for a guy like Vuc and Rozier cap hold. (it was reported by many). Then Jordan happened. He started low balling Kemba, not only not offering supermax, but offering him less than the regular max. He went on a trip with Jordan and Tatum for the shoes and all of a sudden Reload comes in and drops the bomb we are going all out for him. I wonder who our source was that wasn't a team or agent?

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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls 

Post#800 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:22 pm

Froob wrote:
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Pretty sure Kings are outta money, hopefully they don’t max Looney somehow



Cousins on a similar GSW deal is probably best case scenario for us now.


Somebody explain to me why we traded Baynes if we were using a sign and trade to get Kemba? I just don't understand any of it. Could we not have kept his 5M and added it to Semi and Yabu to match a trade for a C making around 12M or so? If the sign and trade still forces us to renounce Morris and not get a full MLE. What was the point of it? I'm so confused.

Well we needed to have the ability to straight up sign him before Charlotte helps us do it.


Just seems like they could have set the trade up and pulled the trigger only when needed. It wasn't the most complex trade in the world tbh. Just feels like they rushed it..or maybe they had no intention of going after Kemba at that point.
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