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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#101 » by Darth Celtic » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:58 pm

captain green wrote:
Theocy wrote:
captain green wrote:It's as if the team needed a defensive center that could pass,or block or steal the ball or could shoot the 3. oh wait nah we get the center that is soft as **** can't block pass or shot the 3 or steal the ball. Worse center pick up that could have happened. Absolutely horse **** off season.
F on the draft, f on the summer league pick ups and f in free agency. With the roster as is
Walker/smart/edwarfs/waters
Brown/smart/langford
Hayward/semi/williams
Tatum /thies/Williams/ yabu
Canter/timelord/thies/fall

Enjoy the 7th seed max or no playoffs.
Absolute let down.


Someone is being very grumpy.

Ya seeing every eastern team out manouver us and have extremely defensive minded bigs and then seeing we sign canter made me grumpy till summer league and then I will be even more grumpy seeing all those worthless guards battle it out for the 14 or 15th spot sounds fun.
Wow how far have we falling. Yes I'm grumpy

Well 1. It's Kanter.
2. We have a defensive minded center. Timelord and he's been working his rear end off at the Celtics facilities.
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#102 » by Bill Bradley » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:01 pm

One of the best things about Kanter is that he goes to bat for his teammates which would be a big boost to the Celtics' culture. He helps the Celtics be less soft and he will shove players on the opposing team, not his own.
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#103 » by Tiny ball » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:04 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
BillTheGOAT wrote:If Brad was able to hide IT on defense im sure a 6'10 to 6'11 Kanter won't be that bad right?

Harder to hide a big on defense especially when we don't have a PF like Draymond who can cover for everybody. We can put Kanter on the least threat on opposing team but they can still hunt him in PnRs. And we'd still need a big to protect the paint.

Williams can do that. Tatum might get better at that also older and stronger. He is not little.
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Post#104 » by KevinGamble34 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:04 pm

Well we finally got someone who can rebound and score inside. Pity about the defence, but can"t get to much at this price.
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Post#105 » by itrsteve » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:05 pm

For $5m? haha, yes please.
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#106 » by Tiny ball » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:09 pm

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As your post shows, Kanter is not a championship caliber frontcourt player on nearly all teams. He is just too much of a defensive liability. Maybe the 90's Bulls in place of Luc Longley. he could somehow get it done. He obviously will add to the Celtics defensive problems and not reduce them.

On the other hand, for a big he is a good offensive player. And at least is a threat to score against nearly anyone.

It seems like Ainge is playing that "flexibility" game or is just happy to treadmill with another 2nd round playoff exit. I hope he finally goes for it but realistically Celtics now have a roster to be a top 4-6 seed in the EC if the rookies/young players contribute a moderate amount and the question remains will Ainge make a move to get much better.

I don't believe K Walker signed to max will be dealt by Boston before 1.5-2 years into his deal if he ever is dealt and at this point Ainge is doing a poor job if he doesn't go for it if it is at all feasible. Can't have Walker getting older and a little slower year by year while Brown headed towards RFA and not do anything.

It would just make the entire K Walker signing nonsensical unless the only point of it was to treadmill and make money off of fans and only go for it, if a true no brainer situation presented itself. I can't picture Ainge wanting to ruin his reputation over doing that when it is already on the ropes a little bit and I don't think Celtics fans would even be fooled much longer.

With 3-4 rookies and Robert Williams, Hayward playing without irving, and Brown/Tatum looking to take a step forward, it does sound reasonable to see what the team has and what that Memphis pick is looking like before making a deal at the deadline.

Celtics seem like they will be a top 10 team next year but no real threat to win it all without a dramatically upgraded interior D. Kanter obviously doesn't provide that. But Kanter's scoring may at least help the Celtics get a good look at some other players on the offensive side of the ball.

Unlike Yabs, I think Robert Williams needs to be out there for 15-25 minutes for a few months until he proves that he isn't getting a little bit better at least. Kanter may be a good player for Williams to practice against.

The good news is Ainge didn't overpay to get Kanter. He should be movable. This is now his 5th team, I wouldn't be surprised if the plays on 2-3 more NBA teams after the Celtics.



We haven’t even had kemba officially sign and your already talking trading down the road? My god some posters on here really make me wonder if your a fan of the team or here to criticize. Kemba will be GREAT here. Look at what he has done with the hornets surrounded by mediocre talent. He fits the system perfectly. Like fellas be happy someone of his caliber wanted to sign in boston, this offseason could have been a disaster and yet we upgraded at PG. Of course were undersized at the big but we have a very long ( pause ) and athletic team. I think the character of kemba and kanter is being undervalued. We have leaders who lead by example; something we clearly lacked last year.


Not to sound like truth18 too much but the off the court leadership problem was overblown when folks are just assessing the bottom line of where Celtics finished. There wasn't that much talk about Irving's poor leadership after C's won their first 5 playoff games...... Yes, if Kyrie played better vs Bucks, series closer but C's still lose decisively. These players much more than fans realize IMO know that when the playoffs begin, you have to be a little less selfish and play hard on defense. That is why Irving not doing that enough stood out since rest of Celtics in general were doing that.

Kemba is a little less talented than Kyrie Irving. Better leader? Sure. Better fit in terms of style of play? Maybe a little better. Probably much better in the regular season leadership department but the biggest Celtics problems were structural(7 perimeter players worth 10+ million a year and only one big worth that). Even with a decent defensive big in Baynes and good to very good defensive big in Al Horford, the Celtics couldn't defend the paint well against elite competition.

Now those two are lost are replaced by Kanter and a largely unproven rookie with a little promise in Williams? If you don't see that as a massive slide back that the Celtics need to fix before trading deadline to even have a chance, I don't know what to tell you.

And if you see my post as pure negativity, you are misreading it as well. Tatum/Brown/Hayward and the young players all have a chance to increase their values before the trading deadline.

But it is already obvious that this team is far from title contention right now. It is NOT as good as the team that lost to the Bucks.

How are the Celtics very long right now with Walker at PG, possibly Hayward or Tatum at PF and Kanter? This Celtics team is still undersized like last years. Maybe Morris is upgraded by Grant Williams but that is most likely not in Williams first year if we are talking 2 way play.

I think when Ainge finally speaks, he will state the obvious that this Celtics team is not a contender as current constituted but that it can be a "good playoff" team and he may be able to make moves to get better.

But without trades, Ainge is setting up a treadmiill team. I am not afraid to say that. At a certain point, you have to choose a direction or you end up just treadmilling.
If Ainge is not happy with the ball club he put together he should shut his mouth and only state this team should win lots of games and their future is bright.
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#107 » by RajonsGotARondo » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:10 pm

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RajonsGotARondo wrote:
soxfan2003 wrote:
As your post shows, Kanter is not a championship caliber frontcourt player on nearly all teams. He is just too much of a defensive liability. Maybe the 90's Bulls in place of Luc Longley. he could somehow get it done. He obviously will add to the Celtics defensive problems and not reduce them.

On the other hand, for a big he is a good offensive player. And at least is a threat to score against nearly anyone.

It seems like Ainge is playing that "flexibility" game or is just happy to treadmill with another 2nd round playoff exit. I hope he finally goes for it but realistically Celtics now have a roster to be a top 4-6 seed in the EC if the rookies/young players contribute a moderate amount and the question remains will Ainge make a move to get much better.

I don't believe K Walker signed to max will be dealt by Boston before 1.5-2 years into his deal if he ever is dealt and at this point Ainge is doing a poor job if he doesn't go for it if it is at all feasible. Can't have Walker getting older and a little slower year by year while Brown headed towards RFA and not do anything.

It would just make the entire K Walker signing nonsensical unless the only point of it was to treadmill and make money off of fans and only go for it, if a true no brainer situation presented itself. I can't picture Ainge wanting to ruin his reputation over doing that when it is already on the ropes a little bit and I don't think Celtics fans would even be fooled much longer.

With 3-4 rookies and Robert Williams, Hayward playing without irving, and Brown/Tatum looking to take a step forward, it does sound reasonable to see what the team has and what that Memphis pick is looking like before making a deal at the deadline.

Celtics seem like they will be a top 10 team next year but no real threat to win it all without a dramatically upgraded interior D. Kanter obviously doesn't provide that. But Kanter's scoring may at least help the Celtics get a good look at some other players on the offensive side of the ball.

Unlike Yabs, I think Robert Williams needs to be out there for 15-25 minutes for a few months until he proves that he isn't getting a little bit better at least. Kanter may be a good player for Williams to practice against.

The good news is Ainge didn't overpay to get Kanter. He should be movable. This is now his 5th team, I wouldn't be surprised if the plays on 2-3 more NBA teams after the Celtics.



We haven’t even had kemba officially sign and your already talking trading down the road? My god some posters on here really make me wonder if your a fan of the team or here to criticize. Kemba will be GREAT here. Look at what he has done with the hornets surrounded by mediocre talent. He fits the system perfectly. Like fellas be happy someone of his caliber wanted to sign in boston, this offseason could have been a disaster and yet we upgraded at PG. Of course were undersized at the big but we have a very long ( pause ) and athletic team. I think the character of kemba and kanter is being undervalued. We have leaders who lead by example; something we clearly lacked last year.


We did not upgrade at PG. We are not long and athletic - we have good size wings, but we're badly undersized at 1 and 4 (starters AND bench) and not very athletic in the frontcourt.

Kanter and Kemba being nice does not make up for their horrible D and it never has.

On the plus side, we can do a fair imitation of the Blazers with good health, which is a nice save after getting dumped by our stars. On the negative side, the Blazers are the classic pretenders and no one really wants to be them long-term. Hence entertaining a Kemba trade to make the next step a few years down the road.



I disagree. We improved at PG in my opinion because kemba fits the system better
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#108 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:10 pm

GreenTeamah wrote:I’m just betting the over every game next year, we’re not defending anybody, a front court of Kanter/Tatum/Hayward? Please


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Post#109 » by RTG HD » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:11 pm

Blazer fan here. Congrats on snagging Kanter. He is better than people on RealGM seem to give him credit for. He saved the Blazers season and even risked his health playing hurt in the playoffs. Very good basketball player and a great person. I hope he does well in Boston.
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Post#110 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:18 pm

Theocy wrote:
captain green wrote:It's as if the team needed a defensive center that could pass,or block or steal the ball or could shoot the 3. oh wait nah we get the center that is soft as **** can't block pass or shot the 3 or steal the ball. Worse center pick up that could have happened. Absolutely horse **** off season.
F on the draft, f on the summer league pick ups and f in free agency. With the roster as is
Walker/smart/edwarfs/waters
Brown/smart/langford
Hayward/semi/williams
Tatum /thies/Williams/ yabu
Canter/timelord/thies/fall

Enjoy the 7th seed max or no playoffs.
Absolute let down.


Someone is being very grumpy.


Not picking on CG but it seems like the usual suspects are always critical of every move.
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Re: Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter! 

Post#111 » by AgentGreen » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:18 pm

Finally a solid rebounder after all these years.. I know he has his defensive flaws. But he'll solve our rebounding issues, defensively and offensively as well. He's one of the best offensive rebounders in this league. Finally a low post threat as well, we lacked these kind of qualities for so many years. We can switch our offense up now whenever we want.

Like i said about Vuc, i've the same opinion about Kanter.. Brad's system will make him look like a better defender than he really is. Just wait for it. He's 27 years old, just hitting his prime. If he turns out to be a leading candidate for the most improved player in the league then we'll praise Ainge even more for hitting a homerun with this signing and the GB will hate us even more.

Our gritt and grind defense will be back, with Brown and Smart leading the groups and that same defense will be mixed with some good offense with Hayward, Kanter and Tatum.

I'm confident this team wont have those offensive droughts anymore, those horrible, horrible and painfull droughts we had to endure with Kyrie and Horford only trying to shoot tough jumpers. My god, thankfully we got rid of that. If our shooting isn't working, we'll switch to Kanter in the low post, mix our offense up and keep the opponent guessing. Hayward, Brown and Tatum will have a lot of open looks next year with Kanter in the post.

If Brown and Tatum make the jump and Hayward gets his old form back, we could be in for a surprise next season
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Post#112 » by Floody100 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:20 pm

He’s definitely no where near the best defender but he’s improving.
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Post#113 » by Bad-Thoma » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:23 pm

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
Theocy wrote:
captain green wrote:It's as if the team needed a defensive center that could pass,or block or steal the ball or could shoot the 3. oh wait nah we get the center that is soft as **** can't block pass or shot the 3 or steal the ball. Worse center pick up that could have happened. Absolutely horse **** off season.
F on the draft, f on the summer league pick ups and f in free agency. With the roster as is
Walker/smart/edwarfs/waters
Brown/smart/langford
Hayward/semi/williams
Tatum /thies/Williams/ yabu
Canter/timelord/thies/fall

Enjoy the 7th seed max or no playoffs.
Absolute let down.


Someone is being very grumpy.


Not picking on CG but it seems like the usual suspects are always critical of every move.


It's amazing how it's almost always the same people taking a dump on everything.
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Post#114 » by Kalela » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:25 pm

Drafting Romeo instead of Goga made no sense if the plan all along was not to go after a good starting level big.
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Post#115 » by captain green » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:26 pm

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
Theocy wrote:
captain green wrote:It's as if the team needed a defensive center that could pass,or block or steal the ball or could shoot the 3. oh wait nah we get the center that is soft as **** can't block pass or shot the 3 or steal the ball. Worse center pick up that could have happened. Absolutely horse **** off season.
F on the draft, f on the summer league pick ups and f in free agency. With the roster as is
Walker/smart/edwarfs/waters
Brown/smart/langford
Hayward/semi/williams
Tatum /thies/Williams/ yabu
Canter/timelord/thies/fall

Enjoy the 7th seed max or no playoffs.
Absolute let down.


Someone is being very grumpy.


Not picking on CG but it seems like the usual suspects are always critical of every move.

So I'm a usual suspect from every move huh, if that were so I suppose I should be on the fire danny, not like the 1st round picks and down on kemba. Well I like those things I hate what I hate bub and I hate signing kanter and drafting 2 pg in 2nd round and I hate signing 7 guards to duel it out in summer league and I hate not addressing the size issues we are small and slow.
Kanter is like the worst center to put with this group. It sucks but lumping me in with always negative is false.
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Post#116 » by Bad-Thoma » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:28 pm

One of the better offensive rebounders in the league for 5m a year? Sign me up. I know his game has holes but that is an absolute steal.
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Post#117 » by return2glory » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:29 pm

Scoonie wrote:Kanter is a good dude with a lot of personality, hopefully we can help him improve his defense.

Would've been the best rebounder on the Celtics the past few years.


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Post#118 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:32 pm

Kalela wrote:Drafting Romeo instead of Goga made no sense if the plan all along was not to go after a good starting level big.


Goga strengths are similar to Kanter. He’s not a good defender either.
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Post#119 » by OldCeltics » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:34 pm

Lets hope Turkey doesn't send assassins to take care of him.

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Post#120 » by Kalela » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:35 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:
Kalela wrote:Drafting Romeo instead of Goga made no sense if the plan all along was not to go after a good starting level big.


Goga strengths are similar to Kanter. He’s not a good defender either.


He is a better shot blocker than Kanter is. Goga is more similar to Nurkic than he is Kanter.
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