Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter!

[celticgreenie]

If I had to take a guess, ainge will target his man crush Aaron Gordon next.

[Tatumfor2]

I bet you guys Kanter believe it! Welcome aboard Enes!!!

[Darth Celtic]

If I had to take a guess, ainge will target his man crush Aaron Gordon next.

how. We have to match salaries to a point, and we don't have any to trade to make it worth while. We can't trade both JB and Smart, and we'd have to to make salaries work.

[ajones9219]

Kemba/Jaylen/Hayward/Tatum/Kanter is a hell of a starting 5. This offseason has been an A+ so far, especially from the tail spin we first appeared to be in.

They probably rank somewhere towards the bottom defensively. Tatum is an okay defender and Jaylen is an above average defender but everyone else sucks big time defensively.

Doing Hayward dirty. He is a very good defender when healthy

[Wes-J]

Nobody we can pick up at C will push into true contender status. The path to that is our young guys blossoming into stars themselves, and then either building around them or flipping them for a true alpha superstar.

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

[hickfromfrenchlick]

Someone is being very grumpy.

Not picking on CG but it seems like the usual suspects are always critical of every move.

So I'm a usual suspect from every move huh, if that were so I suppose I should be on the fire danny, not like the 1st round picks and down on kemba. Well I like those things I hate what I hate bub and I hate signing kanter and drafting 2 pg in 2nd round and I hate signing 7 guards to duel it out in summer league and I hate not addressing the size issues we are small and slow.
Kanter is like the worst center to put with this group. It sucks but lumping me in with always negative is false.

I said I wasn’t picking on you, which was intended to indicate that you weren’t the target of that. Sorry for not making that clearer.

I’m talking about the type of people complaining about Kanter’s D without recognizing his awesome rebounding and who would’ve complained about Player X’s rebounding even if he played good D.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

Nobody we can pick up at C will push into true contender status. The path to that is our young guys blossoming into stars themselves, and then either building around them or flipping them for a true alpha superstar.

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

The question is, can Kemba be the PG on a title team? I think the answer is a clear yes.

Just like the answer to whether whoever else we would’ve signed (including Terry) would’ve been a clear no.

If I knew AD wasn’t coming here, I would have been happy to trade Kyrie for Kemba all along.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Felt like we needed a bit of this last year against Giannis..

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This dude is certainly Celtic material. He fell in love with the Knicks so I think he will love Boston. This city matches his passion and his fight more than any other sports city out there.

[Gomes3PC]

Nobody we can pick up at C will push into true contender status. The path to that is our young guys blossoming into stars themselves, and then either building around them or flipping them for a true alpha superstar.

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

I think it is more just a sign that the FO isn't interested in a tank strategy, which makes sense because even without Kemba, we're probably a 37-40 win team building around young guys, Hayward and stopgap vets. Too good to tank, basically.

That Kemba contract, barring an unforeseen injury, could be moved very easily a year from now if we do want to tear it down.

I am always in the mode of improving talent, and I think Kemba on that contract is at least fair value in this market. If the contract is EV+, we just got better from status quo.

If Hayward improves two years after the injury (like Paul George did), Kemba is who he is, and one of Tatum/Brown break out, we are a team one move from true title contention. That's a lot of if's, but we're a lot closer to that WITH Kemba than WITHOUT him.

[Wes-J]

Nobody we can pick up at C will push into true contender status. The path to that is our young guys blossoming into stars themselves, and then either building around them or flipping them for a true alpha superstar.

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

The question is, can Kemba be the PG on a title team? I think the answer is a clear yes.

Just like the answer to whether whoever else we would’ve signed (including Terry) would’ve been a clear no.

If I knew AD wasn’t coming here, I would have been happy to trade Kyrie for Kemba all along.

Newsflash - We're not a title team

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Wes-J]

Nobody we can pick up at C will push into true contender status. The path to that is our young guys blossoming into stars themselves, and then either building around them or flipping them for a true alpha superstar.

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

I think it is more just a sign that the FO isn't interested in a tank strategy, which makes sense because even without Kemba, we're probably a 37-40 win team building around young guys, Hayward and stopgap vets. Too good to tank, basically.

That Kemba contract, barring an unforeseen injury, could be moved very easily a year from now if we do want to tear it down.

I am always in the mode of improving talent, and I think Kemba on that contract is at least fair value in this market. If the contract is EV+, we just got better from status quo.

If Hayward improves two years after the injury (like Paul George did), Kemba is who he is, and one of Tatum/Brown break out, we are a team one move from true title contention. That's a lot of if's, but we're a lot closer to that WITH Kemba than WITHOUT him.

Oh far be it to suggest tanking, no way.

It's one thing to develop role players, and it's another to develop potentially max level talent players that can lead you to a title. I have to see if they have it. Throw guys like Kemba and Kanter in the fishbowl I'm not sure we find that out. Like many have alluded to, lots of mouths to feed. That's why I was big on Capela all along if Horford fell through.

Kawhi is staying in Toronto. We're 4th at best after spending all that money.

[JohnO]

Somebody is definitely better than nobody gotta have the D. Last year other teams were going to the hoop like it was a fire sale

[Gomes3PC]

While I like Kemba, I'm not bullish on the signing at all. Just feels like a reactionary move to Kyrie bolting. We're not any closer to truly contending with these moves. I would of preferred to put more onus on the young guys (and Hayward) to take the next step and THEN go from there with a couple splash moves or NOT, in a perfect world.

We may never see what JB and Tatum truly can be. Oh well at least we're not the Knicks!!

I think it is more just a sign that the FO isn't interested in a tank strategy, which makes sense because even without Kemba, we're probably a 37-40 win team building around young guys, Hayward and stopgap vets. Too good to tank, basically.

That Kemba contract, barring an unforeseen injury, could be moved very easily a year from now if we do want to tear it down.

I am always in the mode of improving talent, and I think Kemba on that contract is at least fair value in this market. If the contract is EV+, we just got better from status quo.

If Hayward improves two years after the injury (like Paul George did), Kemba is who he is, and one of Tatum/Brown break out, we are a team one move from true title contention. That's a lot of if's, but we're a lot closer to that WITH Kemba than WITHOUT him.

Oh far be it to suggest tanking, no way.

It's one thing to develop role players, and it's another to develop potentially max level talent players that can lead you to a title. I have to see if they have it. Throw guys like Kemba and Kanter in the fishbowl I'm not sure we find that out. Like many have alluded to, lots of mouths to feed. That's why I was big on Capela all along if Horford fell through.

Kawhi is staying in Toronto. We're 4th at best after spending all that money.

I don't think Kemba inhibits Tatum and Brown. They are either going to learn to make plays or they won't, and if they're so passive they can't find a way to do that I doubt they'd succeed even if we threw them to the wolves.

Kanter is a super low-usage guy - almost all his scoring is off 2nd chance rebounds or finishes from other guys driving. I doubt he impairs them at all either.

Sure, with no vets around, Tatum and Brown would be "fed to the wolves" more explicitly, but the ball will find their way to them if they know how to take advantage of it. Getting rid of the likes of Rozier and Morris will make a much bigger difference. Not that it is "good" he left but Horford also facilitated a ton of offense that won't happen in 2019.

To me, Kyrie & Kemba are interchangeable role-wise, especially in terms of pure usage. Then you dropped Rozier and Morris, two black holes, and you dropped Horford, our 2nd-best playmaker. Those three all had usage rates in the 19-21% range. Barring a huge bounce-back from Hayward, those shots, drives, etc. are going to shift from Rozier/Morris/Horford to Tatum/Brown (and probably a little to Smart too).

[GotDaSauce]

5 mil for this! Man are some of you whiny! Lol This is a steal of a deal!

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[threrf23]

I had completely forgotten that Kanter was drafted by the Jazz and had played with Hayward for several seasons.

[s1ickd]

According to the below advanced stats:
- Kanter is a poor defensive player. He fouls a lot and doesn't block shots as often as his peers. He allows people to score on him.
- Kanter is an excellent inside scorer. With minutes, he would be able to keep up with the likes of nearly any scoring center in the league.
- Kanter is an exceptional rebounder. He is a better rebounder than most of the list. He's equal to Capela and slightly worse than Jordan.
- Al Horford was an AWFUL rebounder. Wow.
- Marc Gasol and Robin Lopez are borderline useless at this point.
- D Jordan is a damn good center. Too bad he can't stay on the court at the end of close games.
- Embiid is a great individual scorer but he doesn't have as big an impact on his team's offense as some others while he's in the game.

Long story short - if our perimeter guys get beat, we're screwed.

Past 2 seasons averaged:

Per 100 Posessions Reb % STL BLK PTS FOUL REB OFF RATING DEF RATING
Kanter 21% 1 0.8 27.2 5.06 19.3 119 111
Capela 22% 1.2 2.8 24.5 4.1 18.95 129.5 104.5
R Lopez 10% 0.4 2.0 21.5 3.4 8.5 109.5 114.5
Embiid 20% 1 2.8 37.1 5 18.25 110 102
M Turner 13% 1.2 3.9 22.6 4.8 11.85 110 104
A Horford 13% 1.2 1.9 21.2 3.1 11.4 119 105
M Gasol 14% 1.5 1.9 24 4.7 12.6 106 107
Nurkic 19% 1.6 2.6 27.3 6.1 17.3 104 103
D Jordan 25% 0.9 1.6 18.3 4.1 22.4 124 106

Edit - sorry for how crappy the above formatted.

[Marley2Hendrix]

We're so money you don't even know it.

[cloverleaf]

Wow. That offense is gonna be fun next year! No D whatsoever


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well, we make up the no d with no Kyrie.

No AL or Aron up front?

And I never realized Kanter was another #3 pick in the draft (2011, just behind Kyrie and Derrick Williams, and ahead of Klay Thompson, the Morris twins, Kawhi, Vuc, Tobias, Butler and IT.

So the C's may start three #3s and two #9s? A #6 as sixth man?