Where does Jimmy Butler rank among Eastern Conference players?

contract · Post #1 » by **contract** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 2:05 am

* 2 time 3rd team All NBA selection.
* 4 time all star ... including 4 of the past 5 years.
* 4 time NBA All-Defensive 2nd team.
* He's won 3 playoff series in his career ... never made it past the 2nd round.
* He turns 30 years old in September.

Kawhi
Durant ... injured and likely out the whole year
Freak
Embiid

So he's ~ 4th or 5th best?

goodboy · Post #2 » by **goodboy** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 2:41 am

bottom top 5ish

Kobewade11 · Post #3 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 2:55 am

Kawhi gone, Durant not playing, so 2nd.

HeatFanLifer · Post #4 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:20 am

Other players in the conversation:
Oladipo
Simmons
Kyrie
Beal
Walker

Post #5 » by **Wiltside** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:23 am

Top 5.

Giannis
Kawhi (as of now)
KD (but a ?)
Embiid
Butler

I'd rate him ahead of Kyrie, Simmons, Walker et al

mksp · Post #6 » by **mksp** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:58 am

Kawhi
Giannis
Embiid
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Beal
Kyrie
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Oladipo
Kemba
Simmons
Butler
Middleton
Harris
Blake
Tatum

ILC · Post #7 » by **ILC** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 7:56 am

Tied for 2nd with Embiid (not counting Kawhi and KD), maybe a slight edge to Butler because he can be your go-to guy in the last minute.

RexBoyWonder · Post #8 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 8:22 am

Tier 1 :

Kawhi
Giannis

Tier 2 :

Embiid (Untill he gets healthy)
Beal
Butler
Kyrie (overrate to me)

Tier 3 :

Oladipo (post injury)
Kemba
Simmons (Untill he learns to shoot)

If Butler was a few years younger i would really love this trade. He's still a winning player so good trade anyway.

puppa bear · Post #9 » by **puppa bear** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 9:53 am

I've got Giannis, Kawhi and Embiid definitely ahead of him, and until I see KD is definitely damaged goods I'm putting him ahead as well. (all in the top 20 PER of the league)

Then there's the group of Kyrie (top 20), Kemba, Beal, Simmons, Butler that I feel are all about fit, match-up and season as to who gets ranked higher.

So, I've got him in the 5-9 range at this point.

If we go by stats, Whiteside and Drummond are the only Eastern teams in the top 20 - so obviously a faulty stat for this exercise!

HIF · Post #10 » by **HIF** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 10:23 am

He's ours, so he's No.1.

Bhut Jolokia · Post #11 » by **Bhut Jolokia** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 11:35 am

To start the season, assuming Kawhi leaves and Durant is out:

1. Giannis
2. Embiid
3. Irving
4. Butler
5. Beal
6. Walker
7. Simmons
8. Oladipo
9. Griffin
10. Siakam
11. Drummond
12. LaVine
13. Young
14. Vucevic
15. Horford
16. Harris
17. Collins
18. Tatum
19. Lowry
20. Randle

HeatIn5 · Post #12 » by **HeatIn5** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 1:29 pm

Weren’t people in the other thread saying Beal > Jimmy?

Bhut Jolokia · Post #13 » by **Bhut Jolokia** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 2:15 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:Weren’t people in the other thread saying Beal > Jimmy?

They are pretty close now as players. Beal is 4 years younger though so I can see why people would rather have him over Butler.

Johnny Fontane · Post #14 » by **Johnny Fontane** » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:28 pm

Philly probably makes a Finals run with Butler leading the charge if not for Kawhi's miracle. Have low expectations for next year assuming there are no more major moves, but pair another superstar with Butler in 2021 & a Playoff run past the 2nd round seems likely

contract · Post #15 » by **contract** » Mon Jul 8, 2019 11:26 am

We'll need another thread like this for Westbrook as soon as we land him. That poll should be all over the place because he's such a polarizing player.

twix2500 · Post #16 » by **twix2500** » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:17 pm

In the east right now since Durant is hurt
1. Giannis
2. Griffin
3. Butler
4. Irving
5. Embiid
6. Kemba
7. Beal
8. Love
9. Middleton
10. Young

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contract · Post #17 » by **contract** » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:59 pm

btw you can change your vote if you change your mind. In fact it's an open ended poll, so we can use it to track our opinion of Butler all season long.

Post #18 » by **BFRESH44** » Mon Jul 8, 2019 2:04 pm

Only players better unquestionably are Giannis and Embiid. In a playoff series, I’ll take Jimmy over the rest of the field with ease. Same goes for Westbrook to.

donkeylips · Post #19 » by **donkeylips** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:19 am

Top 4

Bishop45 · Post #20 » by **Bishop45** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:53 am

Giannas
Biid
Griffin
Butler

Kady not applicable

As it stands today, where does he rank among the top players in our conference?