The Board Man Cometh!! Kawhi Leonard Signs 3 Year (2+1), $103 Million Deal

[playaloc916]

This is getting beyond ridiculous with these sources confirming 95% done, deal has been agreed upon but minor paperwork being sorted out... Clips being informed they are not being considered when the supposed meeting didn't even take place yet...

The sheer number of these tweets and "sources tell me" is nuts...

[madmaxmedia]

Then the Cris Carter report that Kawhi doesn't even have a hierarchy of the teams yet...the reality is we have no idea which if any of these reports is accurate, or perhaps were accurate at one point but are now out of date, which are smokescreens, etc.

I was actually thinking this morning that the Clippers basic pitch to Kawhi hasn't changed despite all the reports the last 48 hours, and is still a good one. I think the Raptors, Lakers, and Clippers each have a compelling but different pitch to Kawhi, and we'll simply have to see what he decides. Everyone else can only guess at what he feels about everything, even basic stuff like how important is it really to him to live in LA? Who knows. People generally go through all sorts of swings making even smaller decisions than this, for Kawhi's sake hopefully he's doing his due diligence about each of the teams he is considering, not rushing to a decision, and just makes the best decision for himself in the next couple of days. That what I'm guessing he's doing.

[Galloisdaman]

This is getting beyond ridiculous with these sources confirming 95% done, deal has been agreed upon but minor paperwork being sorted out... Clips being informed they are not being considered when the supposed meeting didn't even take place yet...

The sheer number of these tweets and "sources tell me" is nuts...

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

[Excuse_Yourself]

This is getting beyond ridiculous with these sources confirming 95% done, deal has been agreed upon but minor paperwork being sorted out... Clips being informed they are not being considered when the supposed meeting didn't even take place yet...

The sheer number of these tweets and "sources tell me" is nuts...

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

[playaloc916]

This is getting beyond ridiculous with these sources confirming 95% done, deal has been agreed upon but minor paperwork being sorted out... Clips being informed they are not being considered when the supposed meeting didn't even take place yet...

The sheer number of these tweets and "sources tell me" is nuts...

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Agreed, hold steady and just treat the upcoming year as a developmental year for the young guys, sign a few short contracts if necessary, and then see what happens next year. While getting Kawhi would possibly result in the team becoming a contender, even without him, the core team is still solid and has a pretty bright future ahead.

[TucsonClip]

Uncle Dennis has to be sweatin profusely right now

[Galloisdaman]

This is getting beyond ridiculous with these sources confirming 95% done, deal has been agreed upon but minor paperwork being sorted out... Clips being informed they are not being considered when the supposed meeting didn't even take place yet...

The sheer number of these tweets and "sources tell me" is nuts...

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

[Method28]

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

Hey, hey! Get outta here with your rational thinking! Lol

Question is if the Clippers throw in Shamet does that tip the scales at all

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[Galloisdaman]

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

Hey, hey! Get outta here with your rational thinking! Lol

Question is if the Clippers throw in Shamet does that tip the scales at all

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It does not hurt but if you had a 26ppg two time all star barely in his prime would you do a deal for Shammy plus 2 low lottery protected future picks?

[Excuse_Yourself]

What bothers me is I do not hear any plan B. The whole last year was Kawhi, Kawhi, Kawhi. If he does not come then what?

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

Hanging on words now I see. I don't mean great as in one of Nba's greatest players to ever play. I just mean shaping them to be great on our current team. But if we are playing that word game then let me rephrase, shaping them to be the talented players the FO sees them to be.

As for the trade, there are a few things I would like to point out. First, here are Beal's numbers and Gallos numbers:
Beal - 25.6 5.0 5.5
Gallo - 19.8 6.1 2.6
Both played really well for their teams, but the edge goes to Beal. Both Beal and Gallo are on expiring contracts. Beal is getting paid like 27M and Gallo is getting like 22M. If the Wizards don't get any confirmation that Beal will stay and his contract might expire without getting anything back, the Wizards could lose out on possibly 2 FRP's. Gallo would need to be paired with another player to make the salaries match but the deal would essentially be giving the Wizards 2 FRP's for free if Beal tells them he won't stay. The only reason there is word that he might not stay is because there has not been an extension signed yet. However, if Beal say's he will re-sign then this was all a waste of words being thrown. Plus this was all just a hypothetical. I am under the assumption Kawhi wants to play next to another star and the clippers are willing to trade for one. If Kawhi doesn't care for another star then the Clippers don't have anything else to offer besides whats on the table. May the best front office win.

[Method28]

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

Hey, hey! Get outta here with your rational thinking! Lol

Question is if the Clippers throw in Shamet does that tip the scales at all

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It does not hurt but if you had a 26ppg two time all star barely in his prime would you do a deal for Shammy plus 2 low lottery protected future picks?

I would expect Clippers to offer Gallo, Shamny, Rome, both Miami picks and one of their picks. If im the Wizards id say no, but they could definitely do worse.

Seems Washington is the only ones that dont think they need to start over lol

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[Galloisdaman]

Plan B should be to run it back with our current roster. Giving Shai, Shamet, Rome, and our new rooks playing time and shaping them to be great players. With the additional salary we were saving for Kawhi we can throw some one year contracts at guys like Green or Cousins. Basically plan B, is move on.

However, I feel a trade coming in that involves the 2 FR Heat picks we acquired and Gallo. Possibly for Beal? Not sure, but I see the Clips making some moves to interest Kawhi. If I see a move made within the next few hours/days, my gut tells me we get Kawhi.

Well let me play devils advocate for a second.
I view great as all star or above. While SGA had a good rookie year none of the teams young guys have shown that they will be great players. Maybe good players with some great moments but great? That has to be proven.
Also the first round picks are nice to have but the lower ones are very overrated by some fans. Future lottery protected picks are worth even less. Last season a team offered 4 of them for Butler as a rental and were denied. There is no way the Wizards trade Beal for two low first round picks and expiring contract (Gallo). Beal just missed being all NBA. He is a two time all star at 25. He averaged almost 26ppg.

Hanging on words now I see. I don't mean great as in one of Nba's greatest players to ever play. I just mean shaping them to be great on our current team. But if we are playing that word game then let me rephrase, shaping them to be the talented players the FO sees them to be.

As for the trade, there are a few things I would like to point out. First, here are Beal's numbers and Gallos numbers:
Beal - 25.6 5.0 5.5
Gallo - 19.8 6.1 2.6
Both played really well for their teams, but the edge goes to Beal. Both Beal and Gallo are on expiring contracts. Beal is getting paid like 27M and Gallo is getting like 22M. If the Wizards don't get any confirmation that Beal will stay and his contract might expire without getting anything back, the Wizards could lose out on possibly 2 FRP's. Gallo would need to be paired with another player to make the salaries match but the deal would essentially be giving the Wizards 2 FRP's for free if Beal tells them he won't stay. The only reason there is word that he might not stay is because there has not been an extension signed yet. However, if Beal say's he will re-sign then this was all a waste of words being thrown. Plus this was all just a hypothetical. I am under the assumption Kawhi wants to play next to another star and the clippers are willing to trade for one. If Kawhi doesn't care for another star then the Clippers don't have anything else to offer besides whats on the table. May the best front office win.

I'm sorry the Wizards are not trading 25 year old two time all star Beal for 30 year old Gallo and two future (lottery protected) picks IMO. If they would that deal would be done by the Clippers immediately. That might even help entice KL.

I used the word great because that is the word you used. I'm not sure how that is hanging on words.

[Galloisdaman]

Hey, hey! Get outta here with your rational thinking! Lol

Question is if the Clippers throw in Shamet does that tip the scales at all

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It does not hurt but if you had a 26ppg two time all star barely in his prime would you do a deal for Shammy plus 2 low lottery protected future picks?

I would expect Clippers to offer Gallo, Shamny, Rome, both Miami picks and one of their picks. If im the Wizards id say no, but they could definitely do worse.

Seems Washington is the only ones that dont think they need to start over lol

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That makes much more sense but its still quantity for quality. Its like here are my 4 Honda Accords. Wanna trade your Mclaren? Good move for Clippers. Bad move for the Wizards. I think if you included a way for the Clippers to get out from Walls contract you might have a chance.

[Galloisdaman]

Uncle Dennis has to be sweatin profusely right now

Does he get paid by KL?

[Quake Griffin]

Skip Bayless going off about how the Clippers will be upset if Kawhi doesn’t sign here.

Said we turned down 17 dates waiting on his call as a metaphor.

Damn.

[Galloisdaman]

Skip Bayless going off about how the Clippers will be upset if Kawhi doesn’t sign here.

Said we turned down 17 dates waiting on his call as a metaphor.

Damn.

Hard to disagree too much. They could have made plays for other guys but that is business. KL is KL.

[MartinToVaught]

So apparently Shams said on NBA TV that there hasn't even been any meetings yet after all? This has become utterly absurd.

[esqtvd]

So apparently Shams said on NBA TV that there hasn't even been any meetings yet after all? This has become utterly absurd.

I've thought that the Clips are trying to impress the shy, private person Kawhi what a tight-lipped org they are. No leaks.

Magic shoots off his mouth about everything.

[Galloisdaman]

So apparently Shams said on NBA TV that there hasn't even been any meetings yet after all? This has become utterly absurd.

I've thought that the Clips are trying to impress the shy, private person Kawhi what a tight-lipped org they are. No leaks.

Magic shoots off his mouth about everything.

As unique as KL is that could very well be their strategy. Good thinking!

[MartinToVaught]

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