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Post#1761 » by sco » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:40 pm

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panthermark wrote:HEAT could really use a PG....
We could use a center... They have some open roster spots....
There is a deal there...somewhere.....


Dunn and Blakeney for Meyers Leonard works under the CBA. I might actually do that one.

I would do that as well....They have Olynkk and Leonard....we need one of them.

That'd be a huge win!
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Post#1762 » by superdave » Tue Jul 2, 2019 4:46 pm

Dunn and Felicio are my two least favorite Bulls but TBH they have good salary slots for “trade-up for a star” mid season trades. Dunn/Felicio/WCJ for... S Adams or Kevin Love or Capela. Dunn/OPJ for Paul George. The Bulls could be beneficiaries of LT teams looking to tear down and rebuild.
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Post#1763 » by panthermark » Tue Jul 2, 2019 8:19 pm

superdave wrote:Dunn and Felicio are my two least favorite Bulls but TBH they have good salary slots for “trade-up for a star” mid season trades. Dunn/Felicio/WCJ for... S Adams or Kevin Love or Capela. Dunn/OPJ for Paul George. The Bulls could be beneficiaries of LT teams looking to tear down and rebuild.

No one wants Felicia....we are stuck with him until the trade deadline next year.
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Post#1764 » by panthermark » Tue Jul 2, 2019 8:21 pm

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Dunn and Blakeney for Meyers Leonard works under the CBA. I might actually do that one.

I would do that as well....They have Olynkk and Leonard....we need one of them.

That'd be a huge win!

I tried it with Olynyk and it is $699k short...bummer.

Would anyone consider Dunn and Val for Olynyk? (Although I really want Blak-hole-ney off the roster. If we lose Dunn, Shaq could be our defensive guard off the bench.)
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Post#1765 » by sco » Tue Jul 2, 2019 8:34 pm

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panthermark wrote:I would do that as well....They have Olynkk and Leonard....we need one of them.

That'd be a huge win!

I tried it with Olynyk and it is $699k short...bummer.

Would anyone consider Dunn and Val for Olynyk? (Although I really want Blak-hole-ney off the roster. If we lose Dunn, Shaq could be our defensive guard off the bench.)

No. I want to give Val a chance. Not for Olynyk...we can find similar talent for vet min.
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Post#1766 » by panthermark » Tue Jul 2, 2019 8:45 pm

sco wrote:
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sco wrote:That'd be a huge win!

I tried it with Olynyk and it is $699k short...bummer.

Would anyone consider Dunn and Val for Olynyk? (Although I really want Blak-hole-ney off the roster. If we lose Dunn, Shaq could be our defensive guard off the bench.)

No. I want to give Val a chance. Not for Olynyk...we can find similar talent for vet min.

Olynyk is actually pretty solid....it would be hard to find someone like him for the vet min. If we do, that would be great.
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Post#1767 » by bad knees » Tue Jul 2, 2019 10:19 pm

The $699 K problem with the Olynyk trade comes from the fact that we are sending out two players and are only receiving one, so we have another roster charge assigned to our total salaries. We could avoid that by signing Coby before doing the deal. If we do that, then Dunn plus Blakeney for Olynyk works (I think).
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Post#1768 » by panthermark » Tue Jul 2, 2019 10:23 pm

bad knees wrote:The $699 K problem with the Olynyk trade comes from the fact that we are sending out two players and are only receiving one, so we have another roster charge assigned to our total salaries. We could avoid that by signing Coby before doing the deal. If we do that, then Dunn plus Blakeney for Olynyk works (I think).

Hmmm, we just signed Archi....I wonder if that will make it work?

I'd take either player for Dunn and Blakney....
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Post#1769 » by panthermark » Tue Jul 2, 2019 10:26 pm

Posted Dunn/Blakney for Meyers on the HEAT board.

Mixed results... When it is mixed, you know it ins't too one-sided.
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Post#1770 » by bad knees » Tue Jul 2, 2019 10:38 pm

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bad knees wrote:The $699 K problem with the Olynyk trade comes from the fact that we are sending out two players and are only receiving one, so we have another roster charge assigned to our total salaries. We could avoid that by signing Coby before doing the deal. If we do that, then Dunn plus Blakeney for Olynyk works (I think).

Hmmm, we just signed Archi....I wonder if that will make it work?

I'd take either player for Dunn and Blakney....


If the Bulls are over the cap (which they will be once Young, Sato, Arci and Coby formally sign), then under the CBA, if they send out more than $6.33M and less than $19M, they can take back in $5 M more than they send out (assuming no roster charges get implicated).

Dunn is $5.3 M and Blakeney is $1.6 M, so that adds up to $6.9 M. Add $5 M to that, and the Bulls can take back up to $11.9 M. Olynyk is at $11.7 M, so it ought to work if no roster charges are involved.

Bulls are currently at 13 players counting Young, Sato, Arci and Coby and the other guaranteed contracts. So if they trade 2 for 1, they will only have 12 players, which will trigger another roster charge. So I think they need to sign Gafford before doing the Olynyk deal (or sign someone using the RMLE). If they do that, then after the Olynyk trade, they will still have at least 13 players on the roster, and thus no roster charge would be added, and the deal would go through.
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Post#1771 » by logical_art » Wed Jul 3, 2019 1:23 am

Need to trade for a wing now.
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Post#1772 » by bad knees » Wed Jul 3, 2019 1:27 am

logical_art wrote:Need to trade for a wing now.


Memphis is the place to look. Miles/Korver/Crowder all are possible - all are expiring contracts in the $7-8 M range.
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Post#1773 » by logical_art » Wed Jul 3, 2019 1:32 am

I'd like to be a bit bold.

What about Mikal Bridges?

Dunn, Valentine, Felicio, Blakeney and top 10 protected pick next year for Bridges and Johnson.
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Post#1774 » by panthermark » Wed Jul 3, 2019 2:29 am

Felicia and Blak-hole-ney are killing us. They are using up almost $9.8M in cap space and taking up two roster spots.

We need a big and a wing. Post Archi signing, we have two roster spots left, but that means we can't bring back Shaq to the active, nor add anyone else later on.
Edit.....duh....forgot we signed Luke.

Ok, we need a wing...time to move Dunn.
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Post#1775 » by MrSparkle » Wed Jul 3, 2019 5:59 pm

Lot of dead-weight imo. Obviously Dunn is on his way out.. but the rest feels like a "fool's gold" package of fringe NBA talents. Are any one of these guys contributing to the Bulls' by 2021? I'd make it a priority to shuffle this deck asap.

Felicio 8.1m
Dunn 5.3m
Valentine 3.4m
Hutchinson 2.5m

I know Arci just resigned but I'd add his 3m to this list, but obviously he's gonna be Pax's golden boy roster spot for 3 years.
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Post#1776 » by sco » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:31 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Lot of dead-weight imo. Obviously Dunn is on his way out.. but the rest feels like a "fool's gold" package of fringe NBA talents. Are any one of these guys contributing to the Bulls' by 2021? I'd make it a priority to shuffle this deck asap.

Felicio 8.1m
Dunn 5.3m
Valentine 3.4m
Hutchinson 2.5m

I know Arci just resigned but I'd add his 3m to this list, but obviously he's gonna be Pax's golden boy roster spot for 3 years.

Felicio is only dead-weight. Dunn should be gone, but if FO things they can get more at the deadline, he's useful depth.

If look at Val/Hutch as a "portfolio player", it doesn't feel bad. I think the odds are then one of them will be a very useful rotation player for us this season. I can't tell you which one, but definitely (probably) one of them!
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Post#1777 » by drosereturn » Wed Jul 3, 2019 10:35 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Lot of dead-weight imo. Obviously Dunn is on his way out.. but the rest feels like a "fool's gold" package of fringe NBA talents. Are any one of these guys contributing to the Bulls' by 2021? I'd make it a priority to shuffle this deck asap.

Felicio 8.1m
Dunn 5.3m
Valentine 3.4m
Hutchinson 2.5m

I know Arci just resigned but I'd add his 3m to this list, but obviously he's gonna be Pax's golden boy roster spot for 3 years.



I would package all of them and maybe a draft pick to get a two player wing.
I know Demar is trash but he would be attainable.
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Post#1778 » by MrSparkle » Wed Jul 3, 2019 11:04 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:Lot of dead-weight imo. Obviously Dunn is on his way out.. but the rest feels like a "fool's gold" package of fringe NBA talents. Are any one of these guys contributing to the Bulls' by 2021? I'd make it a priority to shuffle this deck asap.

Felicio 8.1m
Dunn 5.3m
Valentine 3.4m
Hutchinson 2.5m

I know Arci just resigned but I'd add his 3m to this list, but obviously he's gonna be Pax's golden boy roster spot for 3 years.



I would package all of them and maybe a draft pick to get a two player wing.
I know Demar is trash but he would be attainable.


I don’t think Demar is coming for that.

More like Wiggins.
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Post#1779 » by imagge » Wed Jul 3, 2019 11:34 pm

Josh Jackson for Dunn is a no brained....Bulls get a lottery pick going into his third year on a rookie contract...Memphis needs a PG... particularly a defensive PG
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Post#1780 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:54 am

imagge wrote:Josh Jackson for Dunn is a no brained....Bulls get a lottery pick going into his third year on a rookie contract...Memphis needs a PG... particularly a defensive PG


He was already traded for Korver and he is a headcase. We don't need any character concerns right now.

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