The Phoenix Suns have traded Josh Jackson, De'Anthony Melton, a 2020 second round pick and a 2021 conditional second round pick to the Memphis Grizzlies for Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter.
The Grizzlies acquired Korver as part of the Mike Conley trade.
This move clears the necessary cap space for the Suns to sign Ricky Rubio to his three-year, $51 million deal.
Whole Truth wrote:Jman do you have any links with the team?
ESPN trade machine has Noah listed at 1 yr 1m in an update.. Can you confirm?.
I've seen trade machine do this before, where they've updated moves before announcements.
jman3134 wrote:Whole Truth wrote:Jman do you have any links with the team?
ESPN trade machine has Noah listed at 1 yr 1m in an update.. Can you confirm?.
I've seen trade machine do this before, where they've updated moves before announcements.
I have no direct ties to the team, no. Maybe they read our posts here though?
jman3134 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254721/Grizzlies-Trade-Kyle-Korver-To-Suns-For-Josh-Jackson-DeAnthony-MeltonThe Phoenix Suns have traded Josh Jackson, De'Anthony Melton, a 2020 second round pick and a 2021 conditional second round pick to the Memphis Grizzlies for Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter.
The Grizzlies acquired Korver as part of the Mike Conley trade.
This move clears the necessary cap space for the Suns to sign Ricky Rubio to his three-year, $51 million deal.
jman3134 wrote:I love the move. We sign a potential reclamation project in Jackson. Completely frank, I have never liked his game/tape, and saw flaws even in his time at Kansas, when he drew rave reviews. With that said, he is only successful as a transition player at this point because he stinks in the half court. Ja is going to run and run a lot. This is the best opportunity for him to reclaim some value. This assumes we pick up his option in October.
There aren't many game changing young FAs on the market and we have cap space. So we can afford to take this risk.
Melton is alright from what I have seen. Then, you add 2 second round picks potentially (second is conditional), after losing one trading for Brandon Clarke. My problem with the moves this offseason hasn't been that we were stockpiling picks. Moreso, it was that we were stockpiling picks far out in the future, though we had dealt 2020 picks. As we reclaim them and target some reclamation young players, who we can repackage later on once they show something (due to character issues etc), we build a young core to grow in time with some additional future hope.
Edit: also, Korver is so old that he has almost no value in my eyes. Carter is not an NBA player imho. I never saw much from him in his time in the NBA, and his first game in summer league was pretty meh all things considered. It is something for nothing.
jman3134 wrote:I am 100% behind this^. I am a huge fan of MKG and would like to acquire him as another reclamation project after he opted in to his Hornets contract. I assume they would have to throw some assets our way if they want to dump his contact, which looks bad optically, considering they don't use him and have no plans to use him from what I have seen. The last two seasons have been injury ridden.
Like Jackson, he is a complete non-shooter, but he is an excellent defender, who would thrive alongside Ja in transition. In terms of his potential role with the Grizzlies, I can envision him playing some five in small ball lineups, considering the fact that he played inside for most of his life (St. Patrick's). Apparently, the Hornets caught on to this and were using him in this way for some time. https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/10/26/18025298/michael-kidd-gilchrist-hornets-draymond-green
Because he opted into the contract and Charlotte doesn't plan to use him, perhaps they would give up some future picks to unload his contract?
Why I bring this up is my immediate thought after hoping we acquire MKG and revive his career is that we absolutely NEED perimeter shooters to pair with guys like MKG/Josh Jackson. Danny Green would be a perfect match and he could help all of our younger players with their respective shots (Jackson, Ja, Caboclo, Kyle).
VCfor3 wrote:If we make enough moves to offer the full MLE, do you think that would be enough? Reports are that Dallas and Green have strong interest and that is who Dallas is saving their cap for which is why they didn't take Dragic from Miami.
VCfor3 wrote:If we make enough moves to offer the full MLE, do you think that would be enough? Reports are that Dallas and Green have strong interest and that is who Dallas is saving their cap for which is why they didn't take Dragic from Miami.
VCfor3 wrote:So if we are creative, we could actually structure these deals to give us a bit of our TPE back. If we even just turn the Utah deal into a three team deal then we have an almost 8m trade exception still which could be useful since salary dumps are hard to come by for teams.
SD2042 wrote:VCfor3 wrote:So if we are creative, we could actually structure these deals to give us a bit of our TPE back. If we even just turn the Utah deal into a three team deal then we have an almost 8m trade exception still which could be useful since salary dumps are hard to come by for teams.
I wonder with the deal for Howard going down and the grizzlies saving 3.1M, does that help in terms of the TPE or just into the cap space itself?
VCfor3 wrote:SD2042 wrote:VCfor3 wrote:So if we are creative, we could actually structure these deals to give us a bit of our TPE back. If we even just turn the Utah deal into a three team deal then we have an almost 8m trade exception still which could be useful since salary dumps are hard to come by for teams.
I wonder with the deal for Howard going down and the grizzlies saving 3.1M, does that help in terms of the TPE or just into the cap space itself?
It won't effect the Conley TPE though it will create a new TPE for us for 3.1m. It also lowers our total cap to give us more room under the tax in order to sign Wright, use the TPE, or use the MLE. We also just waived Bradley.
