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Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#521 » by Oscirus » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:12 pm

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Da_Mane_Man wrote:Does Kawhi wanna go to James Dolan's 4th of July party you think?


Oh hell no! He trying to get that Dolan BBQ without signing the contract.

If one wants that dolan cd, sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#522 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:21 pm

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Stannis wrote:I don't get how Utah isn't favored to win the West...

Idk, I would take Portland and Denver before them


I wouldn't underrate OKC either. If PG13 can stay healthy he's and MVP candidate. Plus we just saw a 2 way wing dominate his way into an NBA championship
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#523 » by Capn'O » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:35 pm

Knicks have a glut of similarly valuable talent. I wonder if they plan to consolidate mid season.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#524 » by HerSports85 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:36 pm

Cris Carter with the inside info. Put an end to the Kawhi, KD and Kyrie speculations

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#525 » by stuporman » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:39 pm

King of Canada wrote:MPJr is apparently made of waffle cones


Soft serve in waffle cone...

Although if Jokic, Porter and Bol can stay healthy watch out, that's some serious skill and length like never seen before... of course... if.... a very big IF.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#526 » by taj2133 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:41 pm

Chris Carter said the knicks asked kawhi people and said we were a long shot. Also chris carter said our number 1 target was julius randle outside of the superstars players.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#527 » by stuporman » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:46 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I know a lot of people will clutch pearls but if Fiz continues to look lost, we should give Thibs a shot.


I guess if we want the kids run into the ground yea but he might be a bit too old mindset for the modern NBA... there has to be a guy who has the blend of old school defensive toughness and new school offensive imagination out there.

But would the Knicks risk going with up and coming unproven type and burn another 2-3 years in the process if it doesn't work? Of course going retread doesn't guarantee success either... hhmmm it would be a tough decision.

Let's hope Fiz was playing possum for the sake of the tank last year and will bust out his A game now.... :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#528 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jul 4, 2019 6:59 pm

Stannis wrote:I don't get how Utah isn't favored to win the West...


I'm sure by the time the season starts they'll be right up there in the top 2-3.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#529 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:05 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Trier should be our 6th man and hopefully gets a lot of minutes despite the signings. 44% on spot up 3s and ranked in the 77% in spot ups overall so he can play off the ball too and help space the floor.

Has all the makings to be a great 6th man. Can play next to RJ with RJ handling the main point too


that's true. if you start rj and trier, rj can handle most of the point guard duties and you'd get the shooting you need from the backcourt. i don't think people realize what a good play-maker he is. but if they thought that, payton wouldn't be here.


I think the plan is to get Oladipo.

Oladipo and Barrett as a starting backcourt, Payton and Trier as backups


I would love that but i don't think he'll make it to free agency. If he comes back from this injury looking healthy and good then Indiana will definitely max him out and he's not gonna turn down a max contract coming off such a serious injury. Hope i'm wrong cause i would love having that back court.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#530 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:06 pm

King of Canada wrote:MPJr is apparently made of waffle cones


Just like his brother. Did his brother end up getting drafted? If not then who signed him as a UDFA?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#531 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:06 pm

The Kings just waived Frank Mason. I guess they see Guy taking his minutes.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#532 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:07 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
King of Canada wrote:MPJr is apparently made of waffle cones


Just like his brother. Did his brother end up getting drafted? If not then who signed him as a UDFA?


He went undrafted and then still hasn't signed a deal. I drafted him in the second round in BAF this year as kind of a stash pick. I still think he'll have a nice NBA career. He just has some healing to do.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#533 » by K_ick_God » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:16 pm

Also what harm in building out the team and maybe Kawhi gets interested. Randle and role players. Then you can always figure out how to get him.

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#534 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:17 pm

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Polk377 wrote:After doing some studying on the players we have I came up with the best rotation for the Knicks next season.

PG: Payton
SG: Barrett
SF: Knox
PF: Randle
C: Robinson

6th man: Smith Jr
7: Portis
8: Bullock
9: Gibson
10: Ntilikina
11: Dotson
12: Trier
13: Ellington

Inactive: Iggy and TBD

Payton over DSJ starting because he is a better pure facilitator and defender who also has chemistry with Randle from NO. Randle as the high pick option and primary scorer at PF. Barrett is an obvious at SG as a secondary playmaker and iso scorer. Knox as a spacer, cutter and spot up option at SF. Mitch for his defense and pick and roll with Payton lobs and dumps.

DSJ can be a sparkplug off the bench replacing either guard position. Portis gives Randle a break and takes his duties. Bullock replaces either Knox or Barrett providing another shooter and defender. Gibson then relieves Mitch giving them another inside defender to go with Portis' scoring. Certain nights Frank can come in instead of Bullock for defensive reasons and keeping a secondary playmaker on the court. Other nights Dotson can get the call. Trier will have to work his way into the rotation. Ellington is on the bench as a vet presence and situational shooter.

What do you guys think? Seems pretty balanced to me.

Also, it was interesting seeing in the 2 years Portis and Gibson were teammates they never shared the court together. It would seem like the 2 would compliment each other.


I also think that's probably our best lineup but the shooting is a problem with that lineup. I really really wish we would of found a shooting point guard. Wish we would of found a way to get D.Garland in the draft or found a free agent PG that can shoot like DLo. Knox will put up plenty but needs to get his percentages better at 3 and hopefully RJ really worked on his shooting and Randle is avg for a big man behind the arc but Bullock and Ellington are our guys and B.Portis so we'll have shooting to bring in from the bench but if we just had one big time 3 point shooter in that starting lineup would be nice.
Shooting to start games isn't really my biggest concern. Starting the game you want to set the pace and get the early grind. That is a lineup that can get teams in early foul trouble and get them off their set plan. There would be 3 willing passers who can get clean shots for Knox where he doesn't have to over extend his game and get Mitch easy buckets just through motion. We have shooters to come off the bench to set the spark.

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I can see what you're saying but you could also get behind real quick in a game if the team you're playing does have shooters in their starting lineups which pretty much all the good teams have. I mean it's not like there's much we can do about it anyway because we just don't have any good shooting PG's out of the 4 we have in DSJ, Payton, Frank and K.Allen. Allen is probably the best shooter we have but we don't know yet if that was just a G-Leaguer overachieving on a bad team yet or not. We do have good defenders with Payton, Frank and Allen though which is always good.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#535 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:26 pm

Where Elfrid Payton sees himself in the Knicks’ point-guard pecking order.

In fact, Payton said he had “so many options,” but picked the Knicks partly because of playing time.

One of GM Scott Perry’s favorites, Payton agreed to terms on a two-year deal for $16 million, the second year being a team option, and now joins Dennis Smith Jr. and Frank Ntilikina in the point-guard derby.

“Playing time was a factor and it depended on the deal,’’ Payton told HoopsHype. “I obviously don’t mind playing on a one-year deal … but when you’re in a situation where you’re on a one-year deal, you have to be able to play to showcase what you can do. If you’re on a one-year deal and you don’t play, then your hands are kind of tied, you feel me? I also looked at the coaching and playing style.”


https://nypost.com/2019/07/04/where-elfrid-payton-sees-himself-in-the-knicks-point-guard-pecking-order/
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#536 » by stuporman » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:36 pm

Good, nothing being handed to anyone, the players will have to earn their minutes and let the guys who form the most effective groups on both ends of the court get burn.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#537 » by Juco24 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:48 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Where Elfrid Payton sees himself in the Knicks’ point-guard pecking order.

In fact, Payton said he had “so many options,” but picked the Knicks partly because of playing time.

One of GM Scott Perry’s favorites, Payton agreed to terms on a two-year deal for $16 million, the second year being a team option, and now joins Dennis Smith Jr. and Frank Ntilikina in the point-guard derby.

“Playing time was a factor and it depended on the deal,’’ Payton told HoopsHype. “I obviously don’t mind playing on a one-year deal … but when you’re in a situation where you’re on a one-year deal, you have to be able to play to showcase what you can do. If you’re on a one-year deal and you don’t play, then your hands are kind of tied, you feel me? I also looked at the coaching and playing style.”


https://nypost.com/2019/07/04/where-elfrid-payton-sees-himself-in-the-knicks-point-guard-pecking-order/


This was a good interview. EP thinks he should start and quite frankly so do I. His familiarity with JR should not be downplayed along with his work ethic
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Post#538 » by F N 11 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:55 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#539 » by J9Starks3 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 8:00 pm

I can totally see DSJ not being ok with being 6th man... Fiz is gonna have some egos to play with this year
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Post#540 » by F N 11 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 8:03 pm



RJ always ready to shoot I swear
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