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Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#701 » by sol537 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:08 pm

I'd like to see Mitch-5, Randle-4, RJ-3, DSJr-2, Payton-1 as the starters on opening day. You got Payton playing with four of our guys with the highest upside and then you take pressure off Knox by bringing him off the bench as the 6th man. Portis also looks like a guy who can give you 12-8 off the bench, as an energizer.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#702 » by makeitstop » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:08 pm

I'm not surprised that Frank is on the block. They gotta move somebody, and it would make sense that it would be Phil's pick.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#703 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:08 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#704 » by moocow007 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:09 pm

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Hey it might actually help your BAF. The Magic's PG situation (and honestly backcourt situation in general) is more desperate than the Knicks.
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Post#705 » by iLLmatic860 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:09 pm

Also Frank does have better D but Kadeem can run an offense better at point

Still would like to see us utilize Frank as a wing more
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#706 » by GONYK » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:10 pm

makeitstop wrote:I'm not surprised that Frank is on the block. They gotta move somebody, and it would make sense that it would be Phil's pick.

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#707 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:10 pm

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it seems like the writnig is on the wall.

brought in Payton...already have DSJ
Fiz has some wierd hard on for Kadeem Allen (even though I like him) he's not a game changer on defense
You add in RJ, Ellington additions to already Dotson and Trier

where are the guard minutes for Frank?

Why not wait until camp to find out?

What is Orlando offering now that they weren't offering last trade deadline and at the draft 2 weeks ago?


oh I agree, but we have been connecting the dots for a while now. Payton been already guaranteed minutes by the organization. So unless Frank beats out DSJ...and again DSJ is a this regimes guy so I assume they will give him the 1st 2nd and 3rd shot to earn minutes over frank. Then RJ going to start at the 2...and they didn't bring in Ellington to not play either. Consider Dotson a 3rd stringer as well but they will keep him around.

I think ideally Frank along with RJ and Randle in the starting lineup makes the most sense. You now have 3 guys who can do some creating and if Frank ever just hit an open shot (I think he has more upsdie then Payton/DSJ as a floor spacer. That would be our most ideal starting lineup next to Knox and Mitch.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#708 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:11 pm

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nothing would piss me off more giving up on Frank at 21 and him thriving somewhere else when he really never got a "legit" look here.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#709 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:12 pm

Michael Porter Jr. injured again and will miss SL

To think there were guys here beating the drum to draft him.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#710 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:12 pm

sol537 wrote:I'd like to see Mitch-5, Randle-4, RJ-3, DSJr-2, Payton-1 as the starters on opening day. You got Payton playing with four of our guys with the highest upside and then you take pressure off Knox by bringing him off the bench as the 6th man. Portis also looks like a guy who can give you 12-8 off the bench, as an energizer.


teams would just play a zone vs us...not one of those guys is a realiable 3 point shooter and Payton and DSJ don't even take them consistently.
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Post#711 » by HerSports85 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:13 pm

Why are we trading Frank right now?? You wait to see how he comes back this off season first.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#712 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:13 pm

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Im only fine with this if we land an asset


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#713 » by Capn'O » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:13 pm

He gone...

I wonder if there have been more setbacks on the Fultz front.
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Post#714 » by Capn'O » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:14 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Why are we trading Frank right now?? You wait to see how he comes back this off season first.


They're not going to play him. If you look at our signings/roster it was pretty clear he doesn't have a place.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#715 » by iLLmatic860 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:14 pm

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Im only fine with this if we land an asset


define an asset?

Draft picks lol or a rookie with untapped potential
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#716 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:15 pm

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define an asset?

Draft picks lol


well there is a big difference in terms of draft picks assets.

The magic have the lakers 2nd round pick...is that what you consider an asset?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#717 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:15 pm

Frank gunna join that wingspan team sigh. Dont do this...
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#718 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:15 pm

Capn'O wrote:He gone...

I wonder if there have been more setbacks on the Fultz front.


At this point, I almost want Frank to get traded to a situation where he will get playing time and make something of his NBA career

I like the kid and don't want him to rot on our bench. And he would. Fiz is not going to play him

Change of scenery will give him a chance IMO
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#719 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:16 pm

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HerSports85 wrote:Why are we trading Frank right now?? You wait to see how he comes back this off season first.


They're not going to play him.


which is a mistake over the current roster...he has the most potential in terms of his outside shot out of any of the PG's to play off the ball with RJ and Randle. Plus he is clearly the best defensive guard on the roster...which this team sorely needs guys who defends because outside of Mitch this team will be a disaster on the defensive end.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#720 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:17 pm

Just dont talk about it when he becomes a top defender and starts hitting his 3's. Also dont complain about perimeter defense either bc yall been chitting on him ever since.
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