Bleedsgreen wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Bleedsgreen wrote:I am sorry Ernest must of been taking my old man Nap when Leonard, Durant were in town to meet with Danny. Must also been asleep when Lebron was in town last year. There a difference between the a top free agent of the year and a top tier player.
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/26/nba-free-agency-2017-top-50-players-kevin-durant-stephen-curry
steep drop off from 1 and 2 to 4 .Gordon was middle of the pack 2nd tier we made him the 5th highest paid player that year, Horford was low 2nd Tier (Ask Tommy) and we made him the 5th highest paid player in the league that year, Kemba is a booby prize and again top 10 in salary.
Wrong. In 2016 Al Horford was considered the 2nd best free agent on the market behind KD (who also gave us a meeting). Lebron was not going to leave the cavs in 2016 so it was KD and then horford.
In 2017 Hayward and Blake griffin were the 2 top free agents. Curry and KD weren’t leaving GS so they don’t count. In 2019 we landed kemba and he didn’t take a meeting anywhere else.
While we may not be the destination like a LA or Miami (though we did beat them for Hayward) we have done pretty damn good recently via free agency and you only go after the players that are free agents in the year you have space.
This year was abnormal that you kawhi kyrie and KD all free agents but in a normal year Kemba is a top guy and still a great get.
Quick question has Horford, Hayward or Kemba ever been a TOP 10 how bout top 15 guy in the league [YOu may argue 2009 and 2010 Horford was top 15 but we acquired him 7 years later and a few injuries later]. At the time in their career we got Horford and Kemba they are not going to develop into top 10 either. Those free agents are 2nd tier.
Please tell me a team in the last 15 years that won a ship without a player that at some year was at least a top 15 player in the league?
Hayward a question mark with the injury on what could of been but he wasn't even the best player on his old team. And his old team seem to barely skip a beat. Finish 5th and got swept in the WC semifinals with him, finish 5th and won 1 game in the WC Semifinals with out him.
Goalposts, they are moving.
For years it was we can’t attract any decent free agent. Then we got Horford, Hayward, and Kemba. Now it’s we don’t get the very, very best. You were quick to say we didn’t get a meeting with Durant but have forgotten we had a meeting with him in 2016. Only reason it didn’t happen this year, imo, was because Kyrie disliked it here for who knows what reason, and they are best friends.
So the Celtics have actively tried for 4 free agents in the last 3 years and have gotten 3 of them despite being in competition for those players.