Should we trade for Westbrook?

[Mc-o]

lmao if the magic can get Westbrook they would be dumb not too . You guys are acting like this team has potential to make noise without Westbrook.

[tiderulz]

Not with his age and that contract.

this is where i am. Yeah, i love the idea of Westbrook in Orlando as a play maker. He still cant shoot, he turns 31 as the season starts, and his game is predicated on athleticism. I am not too worried (easy for me to say) on the contract as it is only 2 years.

[BlueBalls]

Bad contract. Too old. Awful teammate. Hell no.

[Magic#1]

Considering we're trying to win, then yes, for the right price. If we get the right chemistry and our remaining young players develop, we could challenge teams in the east. I don't think we would beat them in a 7-game series, but we would definitely have a really good team.

[IllMagic04]

Depends on the package. Wed be doing the Thunder a favor taking on that contract therefore Im not giving up Gordon. Id do Evan, DJ and Moz with a unprotcted pick for Westbroook and Ferguson. That trade gives the Thunder great cap relief as DJ and Moz expire with Evan expiring the year after. Plus another draft pick to go with the haul from the Clippers. Id add Bamba if you twisted my arm but Id perfer to keep him. Id rather throw in a future pick swap. I think thats good for OKC to start a rebuild. For us we finally get a star even though a highly over paid one. Cliff could be really good for Westbrook. Plus IF Fultz can play we could have him and Westbrook in the backcourt at times.

Westbrook/ Fultz / MCW
Ross/ Ferguson/ Fultz
Issac/ Iwundu/
Gordon/ Aminu/ Okeke
Vuc/ Bamba

If all breaks right that team could go to the finals with Kawhi gone.

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[Xatticus]

Not with his age and that contract.

this is where i am. Yeah, i love the idea of Westbrook in Orlando as a play maker. He still cant shoot, he turns 31 as the season starts, and his game is predicated on athleticism. I am not too worried (easy for me to say) on the contract as it is only 2 years.

He has three more years on his contract plus a player option that he will pick up. That's four more years totaling up to about $170M.

[dsg2021]

Easy yes, based on a not too crazy price of pieces today and picks in the future. I think OKC have been great drafters, but they continued the rotation vision of surrounding Westbrook, Harden, and Durant towards the days of Westbrook alone, which has been less dangerous offensive pieces than it should have been. I wish OKC's owner never cheaped out on having title teams of Westbrook, Durant, and Harden. It's something ORL's family group never would have cheaped out on (backed by ORL's actual history).

Now, I think another team like ORL has the better shooters, the team-wide passing, the offensive pieces that lets Westbrook take more advantage of who scores alongside him. PG was a great add for OKC, but they still didn't have the 5-man stack that I believe lets players like LeBron and Westbrook shine big. Westbrook's impact would play out differently (with a much bigger impact than last season) if he had a rotation vision like LeBron's, shooters around him. Then you can try to also add in some of the defense and high character pieces like OKC has, and some of the length and 2-way potential ORL has with its shooters.

I also think OKC has never really challenged Westbrook's play style. And it's been hard for them to actually push that change to make Westbrook a little more offensively efficient and smarter with the offensively limited pieces they have had around Westbrook, and the coaches they have had. I think a team with pieces like ORL and a coach like Cliff is the exact situation for Westbrook to find out how to naturally change his game up a bit for the better.

For any tiny chance OKC even wants to shop him, I think we have to continue OKC's longer term rebuilding. It makes sense for both teams. Because Westbrook's age lines up closer to our summer's big resignings as well. This makes our youngest players like Markelle and Bamba the exact pieces OKC should want. And I think OKC's draft haul starts to become more versatile and effective if they can add some ORL picks to those same years, because then all of a sudden, even if you got a little unlucky with two 20's range 1sts, they're two picks in the same draft which means trading up or trading one for more assets.


Still, I've been a big proponent of SAS's 5-man passing units of team offense that led to titles, and 5-man stacks that have a dangerous offensive piece in all 5 spots (like TOR just did), where there is some unpredictability of who scores it outside of 1 or 2 big pieces.. so there is some merit to, will Westbrook not revert to a very high, predictable usage in the last 5 minutes, someone that kills trust in an unselfish team passing system that we've been building.

[tiderulz]

Not with his age and that contract.

this is where i am. Yeah, i love the idea of Westbrook in Orlando as a play maker. He still cant shoot, he turns 31 as the season starts, and his game is predicated on athleticism. I am not too worried (easy for me to say) on the contract as it is only 2 years.

He has three more years on his contract plus a player option that he will pick up. That's four more years totaling up to about $170M.

blah, yeah. Hoops hype only had it for 2 years. I see it longer now

[Airgordon00]

I’d trade Fournier, Mozgov and Bamba for Westbrook but that’s about all I’d offer. You could maybe convince me to offer this years pick lottery protected.

A depth chart like this could be pretty good:

Westbrook/DJ/MCW
Ross/Fultz
Isaac/Iwundu
Gordon/Aminu/Okeke
Vooch/Birch

We could do a lot of variations to this lineup which could really help us match up with anybody. If you wanted Ross on the bench for his scoring punch you could start Fultz or Iwundu.

This trade would definitely give us someone who finally can get to the free throw line consistently. Westbrook would also have a lot more space to move around with vooch’s ability to stretch the floor.

I think Clifford could really be a good coach for Westbrook. I think he can be candid and honest with him about some of his flaws. Plus I think he can get Westbrook in positions to be successful.


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[Def Swami]

I immediately started thinking of this when I saw the trade this morning. I go back and forth, but lean toward mostly no.

He's still an amazing player, but last year was a clear indication that he might be on the decline. His efficiency was at an all-time low. He was one of the worst 3 point shooters but continued to chuck from that range. He's 30 now and has an injury history. And his contract is huge. He's slated $40 million a year for the next 4 years. If he continues to take steps backward, that could become a burdensome contract, potentially as burdensome as John Wall's.

All that said, in the immediate future, he's a pretty good fit for us. He's a relentless playmaker. He'd make other players better. We'd assuredly be playoff contenders in the immediate future. He's still a walking triple double. The team would be really fun to watch.

I don't know what the market is for Westbrook. I honestly would be very weary of him. But if the Magic can turn this into a salary dump with some draft picks, then maybe.

Mozgov + Fournier alone works in the trade machine for Westbrook. I don't think I'd add Gordon in this deal as I'm still high on him. And I realize that I could come to regret that down the road. Gordon is a player I'd like Westbrook to play with. Still hesitant to add Bamba because I like his long term upside compared to Westbrook's, but I believe big men are easier to replace. Give them a future 1st rounder or Okeke to make it happen.

Westbrook had such a rough season by his standards that it left a sour taste about his trajectory, his contract, and willingness to adjust his game to benefit his team. But his talent is undeniable. As I write this, I'm already realizing how picky I'm being and how ridiculous it might be to not do a Westbrook trade to keep Gordon.

**** it. Go trade for Westbrook.

AG + Bamba + Mozgov for Westbrook. And let's go play for the ECF's.

[RickB-Orlando]

This is exactly the sort of opportunity for which we have been amassing assets for the past five years.

The focus of conversation around this board for years has been "if only there were a way to acquire a superstar!" Now that we know there is one available, we shouldn't trade for him? Ridiculous.

A trade based around Westbrook for AG and Mozgov is a no brainer to me. We'd be bringing in a superstar (who is locked in for 4 years) that would immediately elevate this team, combined with Vuc, and up and coming Isaac, the potential of Fultz? He likely elevates Fournier's game as well, and suddenly we're playing in the ECF. Once you get there anything can happen.

Plus he would be embraced by the city. They guy would just *own* Orlando. Sure, our cap situation would be a complete mess, but this has the chance to make us a perennial power in the East. It's precisely what we have been waiting for.

[dsg2021]

I’d trade Fournier, Mozgov and Bamba for Westbrook but that’s about all I’d offer. You could maybe convince me to offer this years pick lottery protected.

A depth chart like this could be pretty good:

Westbrook/DJ/MCW
Ross/Fultz
Isaac/Iwundu
Gordon/Aminu/Okeke
Vooch/Birch

We could do a lot of variations to this lineup which could really help us match up with anybody. If you wanted Ross on the bench for his scoring punch you could start Fultz or Iwundu.

This trade would definitely give us someone who finally can get to the free throw line consistently. Westbrook would also have a lot more space to move around with vooch’s ability to stretch the floor.

I think Clifford could really be a good coach for Westbrook. I think he can be candid and honest with him about some of his flaws. Plus I think he can get Westbrook in positions to be successful.


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With the latest news that both Westbrook and PG were a little unhappy and wanted out/change, and OKC more open to shopping Westbrook than I thought.. this is the kind of offer I'd also be looking at for OKC.

[Furinkazan]

Yeah people say he cant win he doesnt make players around him better bad teammate etc.
Still he would basicly lock us being the 2nd best team on the East.

What would I offer?
Obviously AG+expiring Mozgov and some potentially late pick.

Would it be enough?Propably not.

[paperboymafia]

Nonononononoooo

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[Def Swami]

You know Pat Riley and the Heat are going to do their damndest to trade for Westbrook too.

[Knightro]

You know Pat Riley and the Heat are going to do their damndest to trade for Westbrook too.

Not sure what Miami has to give up that would be of any interest to OKC.

They’ve already sent out 2021 and 2023 first round picks (which coincidentally are now in OKC’s possession) in other deals already.

Miami only has one decent young guy in Bam too. I guess they could kick in Herro?

[OrlandO]

With his age and contract, how high could westbrook's trade value be? He's like John Wall before his injury took him off the market last season... a big part of the return for OKC is they would get to get rid of his contract while they still can. I'd love to get him if it's picks and cap relief (mozgov/fournier/dj).

[MagicFan101]

With his age and contract, how high could westbrook's trade value be? He's like John Wall before his injury took him off the market last season... I'd love to get him if it's picks and cap relief (mozgov/fournier).

I hope you’re right. I love me some Westbrook. His fire would be fantastic here. We aren’t trying to be the new Golden State Warriors despite how hard people here want us to go that route. Westbrook would be the guy we want.

[j-ragg]

I'm baffled people on here want to trade AG and Bamba for him. What in the world... he's on the decline and on the hook for 42 million a year the next 4 years.

[Viper1500]

Gordon and Bamba for what will soon be considered a bad contract?? Man some of you are crazy.


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