Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

snadler · Post #1301 » by **snadler** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:55 pm

Westbrook is a salary dump at this point, not much different than CP3, but I’d be here for it..cap space for the Knicks is meaningless anyway..the cost to acquire him should be low..

Post #1302 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:55 pm

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i mean we have been killing this dude he's been pretty accurate this offseason

Post #1303 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:57 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the knicks will hover a little under 500 for about two months. then it will up to the kids to see if they can progress or do they fall apart. we'll have to see.

I'm surprised your that confident...I can't see it

a lot of bad teams can play near .500 ball for a month or two and the east is terrible. the knicks got a bunch of shooting now and have a fast break team. there are so many wings that to play you're gonna have to hit shots or you're getting pulled. they'll start off the season decent. we did the 2 years before last year too.

Cookies4Life · Post #1304 » by **Cookies4Life** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:57 pm

I can't wait to read Taj's proposed trades.

Last night he was arguing with me about trading Frank for Dwight Howard when Howard is getting waived. Show me what you got.

iLLmatic860 · Post #1305 » by **iLLmatic860** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:57 pm

knicks94 wrote:RJ Barrett looked like a 3 year project in Summer League. I doubt the Knicks win more than 25 games this season.

Lol you dudes are so dramatic

Jay10 · Post #1306 » by **Jay10** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:58 pm

Daryl Morey probably thought he was going to be lifting the championship trophy at the end of the next season. :lol:

Cookies4Life · Post #1307 » by **Cookies4Life** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:58 pm

snadler wrote:Westbrook is a salary dump at this point, not much different than CP3, but I’d be here for it..cap space for the Knicks is meaningless anyway..the cost to acquire him should be low..

They'd have to give us unprotected picks. Westbrook has several years left and while I personally like his motor, that salary is terrible. They're clearly going the tanking route now in OKC.

They'd have to attach several assets for the Knicks to consider it.

3toheadmelo · Post #1308 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:58 pm

My guy Cook about to get a lot of playing time in La

Fat Kat · Post #1309 » by **Fat Kat** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:58 pm

knicks94 · Post #1310 » by **knicks94** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:59 pm

snadler wrote:Westbrook is a salary dump at this point, not much different than CP3, but I’d be here for it..cap space for the Knicks is meaningless anyway..the cost to acquire him should be low..

Acquiring Westbrook would set the Knicks further back than what they already are as a franchise.

GEOLINK · Post #1311 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:00 pm

Westbrook and the NY media is a match made in hell.

Imagine NY Basketball having Russ, KD, Kyrie lmao

Three biggest anti-media guys. Russ is nice but his playstyle makes people not want to come and play with him.

Post #1312 » by **DOT** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:00 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
fair enough...but assuming this logic...someone gets fired right if that is indeed the case? We built flexibility but they signed a bunch of vets to show progress and win...if we win less that 30 games (thats my over/under) someone gotta take the fall or are we going to sell we improved from 17 wins

The only difference between Perry and Phil is Perry isn't signing guys for 4 years

Tell me I'm wrong

That's a major difference.

Is it really though?

We're still gonna be playing vets over youth to get to 30 wins instead of developing and letting the team win however many games the kids are good enough to win

Then trying to sell stars on the idea of coming to a 30 win team (which isn't really a 30 win team cause the guys that won 30 games are paid too much to be role players when we sign real guys) instead of relying on internal development

Like, seriously look at Brooklyn. Bad contracts for picks, good scouting, developing home grown talent, and they're the ones that ended up with KD and Kyrie, not us. Meanwhile we're going out and signing vets to overpriced contracts, and not old vets that have no problem sitting on the bench the entire year, middle age vets that want playing time so they can get their next big contract, or not taking fliers on really young guys who just want to prove themselves

Jay10 · Post #1313 » by **Jay10** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:01 pm

GEOLINK wrote:Westbrook and the NY media is a match made in hell.

Imagine NY Basketball having Russ, KD, Kyrie lmao

Three biggest anti-media guys. Russ is nice but his playstyle makes people not want to come and play with him.

They sure would love the Westbrook-Durant angle though.

Marty McFly · Post #1314 » by **Marty McFly** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:01 pm

i'd rather have russ than portis, payton and randle. ****.

GEOLINK · Post #1315 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:01 pm

Jay10 wrote:
GEOLINK wrote:Westbrook and the NY media is a match made in hell.

Imagine NY Basketball having Russ, KD, Kyrie lmao

Three biggest anti-media guys. Russ is nice but his playstyle makes people not want to come and play with him.

They sure would love the Westbrook-Durant angle though.

Right? I didn't even think of that.

I don't want to go through that as a fan personally. So distracting.

Post #1316 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:02 pm

Marty McFly wrote:i'd rather have russ than portis, payton and randle. ****.

no way you can get rid of almost all them next year...Russ u are stuck with him declining

GEOLINK · Post #1317 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:03 pm

Marty McFly wrote:i'd rather have russ than portis, payton and randle. ****.

All of them can get shipped out or declined if AD leaves the Lakers next year, man.

Fury · Post #1318 » by **Fury** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:04 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
K-DOT wrote:The only difference between Perry and Phil is Perry isn't signing guys for 4 years

Tell me I'm wrong

That's a major difference.

Is it really though?

We're still gonna be playing vets over youth to get to 30 wins instead of developing and letting the team win however many games the kids are good enough to win

Then trying to sell stars on the idea of coming to a 30 win team (which isn't really a 30 win team cause the guys that won 30 games are paid too much to be role players when we sign real guys) instead of relying on internal development

Like, seriously look at Brooklyn. Bad contracts for picks, good scouting, developing home grown talent, and they're the ones that ended up with KD and Kyrie, not us. Meanwhile we're going out and signing vets to overpriced contracts, and not old vets that have no problem sitting on the bench the entire year, middle age vets that want playing time so they can get their next big contract, or not taking fliers on really young guys who just want to prove themselves

We’re still doing this. We have like 6 young dudes.

god shammgod · Post #1319 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:04 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
I'm surprised your that confident...I can't see it

a lot of bad teams can play near .500 ball for a month or two and the east is terrible. the knicks got a bunch of shooting now and have a fast break team. there are so many wings that to play you're gonna have to hit shots or you're getting pulled. they'll start off the season decent. we did the 2 years before last year too.

they do though. it was obvious they wanted shooting with free agency. knox, portis, trier, bullock, ellington. randle will probably improve more. he went from 22.2 to 34.4 in 1 year. he'll shoot slightly better than league average next year.

Cookies4Life · Post #1320 » by **Cookies4Life** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:05 pm

Is Russell really declining that much? Didn't he just average a triple double again (nearly 11 assists and over 11 rebounds per game at 43% shooting?)

I don't like that contract at all but some are making him out to be a shell of his former self. The guy keeps racking up triple double seasons ffs. He's always been one of my favorite players just because he plays so hard but given his age and that contract it's a hard pass unless they attached several picks with it.