Clips Acquire Paul George for SGA, Gallo, 5 First-Rounders and 2 Pick Swaps

TheNewEra · Post #61 » by **TheNewEra** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:35 pm

Interested to see how the young guys battle.

ejftw · Post #62 » by **ejftw** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:37 pm

I like George, but yes, that is an overpay. Until you realize that Kawhi would not have came without that gross overpay

Quake Griffin · Post #63 » by **Quake Griffin** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:27 pm

Didn’t Paul George date Doc’s daughter? Cheat on her? Impregnate another gal?

Wonder if they talked about that.

itsme23 · Post #64 » by **itsme23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:29 pm

What are Clips going to do about bigs?

MartinToVaught · Post #65 » by **MartinToVaught** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:33 pm

Neil Olshey is officially forgiven for not drafting PG when he was practically begging us to draft him. He's finally home.

Post #66 » by **TrueLAfan** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:42 pm

ejftw wrote:I like George, but yes, that is an overpay. Until you realize that Kawhi would not have came without that gross overpay

It’s not an overpay. People are confusing the value of the draft picks.

To start with, the “pick flip” is nothing. What are the chances that the Clippers will be substantially—and by that, I mean 8-10 draft places or more—better than OKC? Unless that’s the case, the pick flips mean zero. Start with that.

Then there’s the three Clipper first rounders. The majority—I’d say all—of those picks are likely going to be in the mid to low teens to 20s. Put it this way; picks at that level have the most value as trade chips for players or to move up in the draft. (;like the way we used them in this instance.) Figure the Clipper picks are in the 20s (if we’re good) and in the low teens (if we’re mediocre). Say we end up being bad in 2026 and being in the lower end of the lotteryHow much value do a #24 pick, a #21 pick, and a #10 pick have? You could package them and move up to a borderline top 7 pick, maybe. Their main value is in being flipped … like we did here. So we did what you should do with those draft picks.

The only pick with true semi-immediate value is the unprotected 2021 Miami pick … and Miami just added Jimmy Butler to a 40 (okay, 39) win team with a good young core. Will they be a playoff team in 2020-21? Maybe? Probably? Okay … what are the odds that the pick that goes to OKC will be higher than 10? Pretty low, IMO.

I’m truly sorry about SGA, who I think is going to be an excellent NBA player. And by that, I think he could make some all-star games, maybe. He’s not going to be a Batman, or a Robin, but he’ll be a very good NBA starter and a valuable glue player. But we’ve got depth at G and we had to give up a piece of value, and it’s him. He’s the thing I’m sorriest about … but having a current five man guard rotation of Pat Bev, Sham, Lou, Rome, and McGruder—with PG occasionally playing some SG—is awfully good.

And I’m sorry about Gallo, but we’re getting a big upgrade that’s younger and less of an injury worry for a longer time. So, that.

The biggest misconception here is the idea that we are “overpaying.” Because, literally, that’s exactly what we aren’t doing. This is silly season for contracts and $$. Danny Green is a nice player. He’s getting $15 million a year. Al Horford is a very good player. He’s getting $25 million or more. Neither of them is that close to Paul George, who is an All-NBA player that is a legit top 5 player candidate in the league. George will make $33 million next year. That is not overpaying.

Sure, what we gave up is definitely valuable. But while I like OKC and hope they do something great with those picks, the smartest thing they can do is gather picks and trade them for a superstar. Kinda like we just did.

FlipFlopShot · Post #67 » by **FlipFlopShot** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:44 pm

Wassup!!! Getting the two realest players in the whole league!
Can finally follow PG again. PG and Kawhi, the two of few stars that get things done. Let me jump on this next season!
(Top it off with Lin and Crawford on cheap and this will be my only team next season)

Post #68 » by **TrueLAfan** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:47 pm

itsme23 wrote:What are Clips going to do about bigs?

Resign Zubac, get a room exception PF, maybe sign a vet (Luol Deng) for some low rotation/bench coverage, develop Kabengele normally. I figure Harkless, Kawhi, and PG will play 15% of their minutes at PF, so pencil in 1000 minutes there. Trezz will (hopefully) play 500-1000 minutes there. Kabengele will play about 500-1000 minutes there. That leaves us with around 1000-1500 mintues to cover. Getting a room exception/vet to cover that should not be an issue.

itsme23 · Post #69 » by **itsme23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 4:33 pm

I think you pull the trigger and it’s worth the risk. Especially given the Clippers history.

The only issue I see with it is health. Both superstars are injury prone and if one guy gets injured (which is definitely a possibility) that could really impact all this.

Post #70 » by **TrueLAfan** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 4:37 pm

itsme23 wrote:I think you pull the trigger and it’s worth the risk. Especially given the Clippers history.

The only issue I see with it is health. Both superstars are injury prone and if one guy gets injured (which is definitely a possibility) that could really impact all this.

It's a good point--but it's also where the Harkless signing makes a ton of sense. He's our load management guy. He can start games that PG or Kawhi take off, and play 20-25 mpg in the other games so that they can be 30-35 mpg players. For PG especially, that's more time to rest.

Ranma · Post #71 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 4:51 pm

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Zvaart · Post #72 » by **Zvaart** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 5:02 pm

Congrats guys for the signings. I’m really glad, your team gained my respect after our series against you this year, and i think you well deserve it.
If the time comes, i’ll root for you against the lakers.

It would be interesting to see the tables turned next year with the dubs facing you as the underdogs. I would only hope for us to put up as least a good fight as you did this year.

Cheers.

Ranma · Post #73 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 5:19 pm

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SK21209 · Post #74 » by **SK21209** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 5:22 pm

svart wrote:Congrats guys for the signings. I’m really glad, your team gained my respect after our series against you this year, and i think you well deserve it.
If the time comes, i’ll root for you against the lakers.

It would be interesting to see the tables turned next year with the dubs facing you as the underdogs. I would only hope for us to put up as least a good fight as you did this year.

Cheers.

Thanks bro, that would be one hell of a series and a really cool throwback to the 2014 series. Facing you guys with Klay back in the first or second round is my nightmare scenario for this team tbh, hopefully it happens to the Lakers instead :lol:

Ranma · Post #75 » by **Ranma** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 5:38 pm

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TheNewEra · Post #76 » by **TheNewEra** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 5:58 pm

Close call

Post #77 » by **mkwest** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 7:06 pm

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Post #78 » by **mkwest** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 7:18 pm

How Kawhi pulled Paul George away from OKC

After the Clippers met with Leonard for approximately three hours at head coach Doc Rivers' house in Malibu on Monday night, both sides went to work to make that happen. At the same time he was meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers and Toronto Raptors this week, Leonard was meeting, calling and texting with George, trying to convince him to find a way out of Oklahoma City.

Like Durant, George was flattered by Leonard's recruiting. The two had a fair amount in common. They'd grown up in the Los Angeles area at about the same time. George, 29, is from Palmdale, a dusty desert town about an hour and a half north of L.A. Leonard, 28, is from Riverside, a sprawling Inland Empire town about an hour and a half east of L.A. Both had been lightly recruited out of high school, found their footing as players at mid-major colleges (George at Fresno State, Leonard at San Diego State) and then quietly entered the NBA as mid-first-round picks.

Still, Leonard's recruiting efforts caught George by surprise.

Said one source close to George, "For a quiet guy, he's a hell of a recruiter."

But George felt like it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, to play at home in L.A. alongside a generational talent like Leonard. So in the middle of the week, he went to Oklahoma City general manager Sam Presti and asked for a trade -- to the Clippers.

Ramona Shelburne, ESPN

FlipFlopShot · Post #79 » by **FlipFlopShot** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 7:33 pm

This silent assassin.
Kawhi just smiling at Lebron, watching all his recruiting antics.
'I can take everything you own with the clap of these hands.'

esqtvd · Post #80 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:33 pm

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