Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

[The_Special_One]

I'm a big russ fan... he plays w grit... the contract is the problem.

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How is the contract any different than Durants? Or Kyries? He is 30 not 35. Enough prime left in the tank.

I hear u, but I'm just a lil weary. Now dont get me wrong. If we were to somehow get russ I'd be ecstatic. I'm a huge russ fan. Nothing would make smile more than seeing him throw it down on KD at the Barclay's and walk over him. Sorry I started day dreaming.

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[god shammgod]

i don't know how many picks they have to trade left but miami would make sense. riley loves big names and would probably love to pair jimmy & russ.

[ADeP7]

You don’t trade for Westbrook unless it’s dirt cheap to acquire him. You have no flexibility to sign people outright after acquiring him.

If it were something simple like. Dennis Smith frank and mavs pick and a lotto protected Knicks pick in ‘23. Then ok. Maybe I’d bite

He just doesn’t fit the timeline. Costs a lot of money. Then costs a lot to acquire.

You want trade targets that fit the timeline. Wait for Beal , Devin booker , oladipo to ask out.

My guess is booker asks out this year and Id expect knicks to target him

None of the guys you mention are all around players like Westbrook is.

2020 FA is terrible. The contracts we signed these players to were by design very favorable/tradeable.

So you’d rather have Westbrook than Devin booker or Beal or oladipo. All guys under 27.

Bookers defense isn’t amazing but a ridiculously talented scorer who is only 23-24 years old.

You add booker and in 2021 when the free agent class opens up you go recruiting with booker Barrett and Mitch.

Obviously looking far ahead is pointless but If you can lure a Giannis or oladipo or Beal in 2021

Cole Anthony/Booker/Barrett /Giannis / Mitch

Oladipo/ booker / Barrett /randle / Mitch

Keep the cap, the picks , the youth open and flexible to add people that fit the timeline. Not on people like westbrook

[ophdog]

Can we sign and trade lance Thomas to a 1+1 max? Lol

[KnixinSix]

You don’t trade for Westbrook unless it’s dirt cheap to acquire him. You have no flexibility to sign people outright after acquiring him.

If it were something simple like. Dennis Smith frank and mavs pick and a lotto protected Knicks pick in ‘23. Then ok. Maybe I’d bite

He just doesn’t fit the timeline. Costs a lot of money. Then costs a lot to acquire.

You want trade targets that fit the timeline. Wait for Beal , Devin booker , oladipo to ask out.

My guess is booker asks out this year and Id expect knicks to target him

None of the guys you mention are all around players like Westbrook is.

2020 FA is terrible. The contracts we signed these players to were by design very favorable/tradeable.

So you’d rather have Westbrook than Devin booker or Beal or oladipo. All guys under 27.

Bookers defense isn’t amazing but a ridiculously talented scorer who is only 23-24 years old.

You add booker and in 2021 when the free agent class opens up you go recruiting with booker Barrett and Mitch.

Obviously looking far ahead is pointless but If you can lure a Giannis or oladipo or Beal in 2021

Cole Anthony/Booker/Barrett /Giannis / Mitch

Oladipo/ booker / Barrett /randle / Mitch

Keep the cap, the picks , the youth open and flexible to add people that fit the timeline. Not on people like westbrook

If I'm maxing a guy both offense AND defense need to be elite (near elite). Westbrook is that kind of player and oh yeah he rebounds and passes too.

Hes the best 'possibly' available player right now. Even better than Harden who doesn't play defense.

[Grinditout]

Kawhi/PG gotta be the best duo right now right? Better than Bron/AD, better than Kyrie/KD, better than Steph/Klay.

[makeitstop]

How is the contract any different than Durants? Or Kyries? He is 30 not 35. Enough prime left in the tank.

At the time that KD or Kyrie's contracts were in play, we actually had money to pay for them without having to gut the roster or go into salary cap hell for a few years.

Now? Not so much. Cap space is spent.Hard pass on Russ.

Taj, Portis, Ellington, Bullock, DSJ, Frank and 3-4 First round picks. So good.

Let's fire Mills and hire Zeke back as GM while we're at it.

[Grinditout]

None of the guys you mention are all around players like Westbrook is.

2020 FA is terrible. The contracts we signed these players to were by design very favorable/tradeable.

So you’d rather have Westbrook than Devin booker or Beal or oladipo. All guys under 27.

Bookers defense isn’t amazing but a ridiculously talented scorer who is only 23-24 years old.

You add booker and in 2021 when the free agent class opens up you go recruiting with booker Barrett and Mitch.

Obviously looking far ahead is pointless but If you can lure a Giannis or oladipo or Beal in 2021

Cole Anthony/Booker/Barrett /Giannis / Mitch

Oladipo/ booker / Barrett /randle / Mitch

Keep the cap, the picks , the youth open and flexible to add people that fit the timeline. Not on people like westbrook

If I'm maxing a guy both offense AND defense need to be elite (near elite). Westbrook is that kind of player and oh yeah he rebounds and passes too.

Hes the best 'possibly' available player right now. Even better than Harden who doesn't play defense.

How long you think he'll last, his raw athleticism is what makes him elite. He's on the other side of 30

[robillionaire]

Kawhi/PG gotta be the best duo right now right? Better than Bron/AD, better than Kyrie/KD, better than Steph/Klay.

I’d still take Bron and AD at least next year maybe not in 3-4 years though

[KnixinSix]

Found it. We would have to wait until Dec 15th to trade for Westbrook.

The trade rules for rookies are a bit different than those of free agents. An NBA team can not trade a recently signed free agent until the longer of December 15th or three months after the official signing. This provides a bit of safety for free agents as they know that they will at least be in town for a few months.

[KnixinSix]

Kawhi/PG gotta be the best duo right now right? Better than Bron/AD, better than Kyrie/KD, better than Steph/Klay.

Depending on how much Bron has left. Playing with AD may rejuvenate him. PG beasted partly because of RW.

[KnixinSix]

Kawhi/PG gotta be the best duo right now right? Better than Bron/AD, better than Kyrie/KD, better than Steph/Klay.

I’d still take Bron and AD at least next year maybe not in 3-4 years though

I think I agree with you.

[newyorker4ever]

You don’t trade for Westbrook unless it’s dirt cheap to acquire him. You have no flexibility to sign people outright after acquiring him.

If it were something simple like. Dennis Smith frank and mavs pick and a lotto protected Knicks pick in ‘23. Then ok. Maybe I’d bite

He just doesn’t fit the timeline. Costs a lot of money. Then costs a lot to acquire.

You want trade targets that fit the timeline. Wait for Beal , Devin booker , oladipo to ask out.

My guess is booker asks out this year and Id expect knicks to target him

I'd take Beal over Booker. Booker does nothing but score. Now the kid can obviously shoot but when he's on and having one of his great 3 point shooting games he becomes that ISO guy that i don't want and doesn't play defense. Beal does it all.

[newyorker4ever]

You don’t trade for Westbrook unless it’s dirt cheap to acquire him. You have no flexibility to sign people outright after acquiring him.

If it were something simple like. Dennis Smith frank and mavs pick and a lotto protected Knicks pick in ‘23. Then ok. Maybe I’d bite

He just doesn’t fit the timeline. Costs a lot of money. Then costs a lot to acquire.

You want trade targets that fit the timeline. Wait for Beal , Devin booker , oladipo to ask out.

My guess is booker asks out this year and Id expect knicks to target him

None of the guys you mention are all around players like Westbrook is.

2020 FA is terrible. The contracts we signed these players to were by design very favorable/tradeable.

All around players can shoot though and Russ.........................not so much.

[stuporman]

People who want to trade for Westbrook should be banned, then slapped, then banned again, then slapped once more.

[ADeP7]

You don’t trade for Westbrook unless it’s dirt cheap to acquire him. You have no flexibility to sign people outright after acquiring him.

If it were something simple like. Dennis Smith frank and mavs pick and a lotto protected Knicks pick in ‘23. Then ok. Maybe I’d bite

He just doesn’t fit the timeline. Costs a lot of money. Then costs a lot to acquire.

You want trade targets that fit the timeline. Wait for Beal , Devin booker , oladipo to ask out.

My guess is booker asks out this year and Id expect knicks to target him

I'd take Beal over Booker. Booker does nothing but score. Now the kid can obviously shoot but when he's on and having one of his great 3 point shooting games he becomes that ISO guy that i don't want and doesn't play defense. Beal does it all.

Ya I just figured booker will actually ask out. I’d personally love oladipo or Beal. But I don’t see oladipo getting traded

[The_Special_One]

OKC and Russ exploring trade possibilities

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[bleedblue3303]

Been giving this a lot of thought. I might just be a homer or unrealistic. But... I am happy with the Knicks.

Lets look at the league.

Nets,
signed
Kyrie who has yet to prove he can stay healthy, deal with media and pressure, and be a good leader.
KD, coming off a potentially career ending injury and will not play again until he's 32

Clippers
Basically gave up a decades worth of assets for a player in PG who in my opinion is not top 10
Have Kawai whose body has the potential to break down.

Lakers
All tied up on 2 players and going to have trouble filling the rest of the roster with quality
Lebron getting older and AD has yet to prove he can go far in the playoffs or stay healthy.
Also gave up over 6 years of assets for AD

Now this might work for 1 or 2 of these team but def this will backfire on 1 of them. If I told you a 1 in 3 chance of failing miserably, you probably wouldn't like those odds.

So after much thought. I'm happy we brought in guys on 1 year deals to help toughen up our youngsters. Our time will come, but it will be sweeter because we will add a FA as the missing piece to a team we slowly built and developed. With a culture of toughness.

[GEOLINK]

NBA landscape changes in a blink of an eye.

I'm glad we have the flexibility to maneuver whenever it's time.

[msanchez2725]

People who want to trade for Westbrook should be banned, then slapped, then banned again, then slapped once more.

100 percent. Would not take Russ for free. This is an absolute Isiah-era Knicks move. Just embrace the rebuild.