SL Game Thread # 1: CaKnickians vs. Pelicanos

[islanders11040]

Knox was guarding him on his first 3 missed shot attempts. He did a fine job on him other than the play where he tried to cheat and steal the ball and it resulted in an open dunk. The play where he got blindsided and zion had an open dunk is whatever. Knox outscored him on better percentages and outrebounded him and had 2 blocks to 0 and all Zion’s makes were dunks because that’s all he can do and also Knox didn’t get injured because he’s not fat. Knox 4 life.

Good account. Drekwins may want to replay the game if they only saw the negatives. Overall, Knox was a bright spot last night IMO

Explain his bright spots. There's only so much you can take from Summer League but what made Knox the worst rookie last year in terms of VORP is his defense and lack of versatility. But let's be real, he shot a low percentage last year, shot the ball a ton of times, couldn't defend anyone and couldn't create for teammates. He was just a chucker in every sense of the word. Knox is going to be judged solely based on how he does everything OTHER than scoring/shooting. His development hinges on his ability to defend better, create better and make wiser decisions. Otherwise, what's his value? If all he brings to the table is 3's, then we could just get someone else who shoots them better and has more of an all-around game. There's not much of a market or value in a guy who shoots 37% from 3 and does nothing else.

No one blew by Knox on defense while he even blocked a jump shot with good rebounding numbers. Had a nice corner pass too which the player missed. I saw bright spots.

[El Poochio]

Knox looked pretty good on defense completely gobbled up Zion with his size

[Clyde Frazier]

I think Trier should sit out the rest of summer league because apparently it makes fans turn against him

[drekwins]

Good account. Drekwins may want to replay the game if they only saw the negatives. Overall, Knox was a bright spot last night IMO

Explain his bright spots. There's only so much you can take from Summer League but what made Knox the worst rookie last year in terms of VORP is his defense and lack of versatility. But let's be real, he shot a low percentage last year, shot the ball a ton of times, couldn't defend anyone and couldn't create for teammates. He was just a chucker in every sense of the word. Knox is going to be judged solely based on how he does everything OTHER than scoring/shooting. His development hinges on his ability to defend better, create better and make wiser decisions. Otherwise, what's his value? If all he brings to the table is 3's, then we could just get someone else who shoots them better and has more of an all-around game. There's not much of a market or value in a guy who shoots 37% from 3 and does nothing else.

No one blew by Knox on defense while he even blocked a jump shot with good rebounding numbers. Had a nice corner pass too which the player missed. I saw bright spots.

I never said blow away. I said out of position. He was in no-man's land in the PnR. He was in bad positioning on the entry pass... which was far too easy. He was out of position on the lob to start the game. Listen, I want Knox to be good. I think he has potential as a shooter. But, he's not going to get there by trying to give him a pass when Zion has 3 straight dunks. Zion is a terrible shooter. If you cna't stop him, you put him on the line. Also, you have to know Zion's tendencies. Blocking his shot is great but he's probably going to miss anyways. A good defensive player prioritizes their position. It's a mental game. You know Zion is trying to get 5 feet from the Rim EVERY time. So, why gamble 10-15 feet out when he's not a threat there? You play off him, force him right and always stay between him and the basket... even if that means giving him 5-7 feet of room. Then, when he's within 5-7 feet of the hoop, you put weight on him.

[GONYK]

FIRST GAME? You guys are basing his career off of ONE GAME. Man you've got to be kidding me. He is adjusting to the NBA 3 which takes time, hell Jordan wasn't a 3 point shooter when he came into the league (.173%), Kobe in 98 shot .267, Paul George .297, Wade .302.

3 out 4 on that list never became good 3pt shooters

[K_ick_God]

If we are being honest you guys and probably me too ... we are good with a rebuild as long as the results are fairly immediate and the players are already on a superstar track. Otherwise we are not okay with a rebuild.

Some wins will help that.

[ny-n-md]

They called the game, it’s final.

Does anybody else think Frank would’ve made a difference in this game instead of Kadeem?

obviously

Considering Fiz likes Allen so much I don’t think it’s so obvious.

[dakomish23]

I really have a problem with our roster construction. we have a few talented players but I don't see the fit already.

RJ, DSJ, Trier, Randle and (partially) knox all need the ball a lot. I mean... how should this work out?

Rooting so much for Dot and Frank to get minutes...

Yep. Expecting the usual, I’m hoping I can get some

DSJ
Dot
RJ
Knox
Mitch

lineups at some point. Frank unlikely to see any minutes unfortunately.

[alphad0gz]

Thank god we live in NYC

I've got news for you. There are some major fault lines under NYC. Not as likely to hit us like the west coast but we're not totally in the clear.

not activated for at least another 50m years

First, you're wrong, and what the hell is "activated"? Second, a 6.0 could devastate NYC depending on which of 5 fault lines it originated from. The term "House of Cards" has been used to describe the aftermath of such a quake. Third, you need to stop acting like you know everything. You know nothing but trolling.

[awy]

I've got news for you. There are some major fault lines under NYC. Not as likely to hit us like the west coast but we're not totally in the clear.

not activated for at least another 50m years

First, you're wrong, and what the hell is "activated"? Second, a 6.0 could devastate NYC depending on which of 5 fault lines it originated from. The term "House of Cards" has been used to describe the aftermath of such a quake. Third, you need to stop acting like you know everything. You know nothing but trolling.

if you dont know what an old fault being activated means then lol. ny area is of course riddled with faults but most are dormant, meaning not actively building up stress. they are simply areas of weakness that may become earthquake generating faults when source of stress are reintroduced.

faults don't always lead to earthquakes, energy does. the relative stability of the area from plate boundary rift zones just means that this is a low energy area.

but yes, east coast buildings are more vulnerable to earthquake damage. even so, compared to the cascadia or alaska subduction zones which generate upwards of 9.3 magnitude quakes every few centuries, the earthquakes in the nyc area are not significant.

[Knicks_Fan2]

I really have a problem with our roster construction. we have a few talented players but I don't see the fit already.

RJ, DSJ, Trier, Randle and (partially) knox all need the ball a lot. I mean... how should this work out?

Rooting so much for Dot and Frank to get minutes...

Yep. Expecting the usual, I’m hoping I can get some

DSJ
Dot
RJ
Knox
Mitch

lineups at some point. Frank unlikely to see any minutes unfortunately.

Unfortunately you probably still have one too many non knockdown shooters in that lineup.

[dakomish23]

I really have a problem with our roster construction. we have a few talented players but I don't see the fit already.

RJ, DSJ, Trier, Randle and (partially) knox all need the ball a lot. I mean... how should this work out?

Rooting so much for Dot and Frank to get minutes...

Yep. Expecting the usual, I’m hoping I can get some

DSJ
Dot
RJ
Knox
Mitch

lineups at some point. Frank unlikely to see any minutes unfortunately.

Unfortunately you probably still have one too many non knockdown shooters in that lineup.

I know. It’s not great. But one can hope they can figure it out

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I wonder if the Knicks make Fiz available at all to the media for tonight’s game.

Of course he will be.

.....about that....

[vallen]

I wonder if the Knicks make Fiz available at all to the media for tonight’s game.

Of course he will be.

.....about that....

lol Touche

Heres a little something with the SL Coach though..

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/knicks-talk-success-iggy-brazdeikis-131500722.html