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Post#2341 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:38 pm

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The new nba means you build for a chance at a 2 year window and then blow it up. You don’t think the return for George was a little bit impressive?


I've lost complete faith in Presti at this point. The gravitation of stars to Los Angeles and New York has also made me more cynical about the landscape of the league going forward.

It feels like the team just has inevitable concerns even with Presti recouping picks for PG. A) Presti will either squander the picks on something stupid. B) The ownership will cheap out even in the event that the team hits on the draft picks because thats just the way they lean. C) The players that are drafted might just leave for greener pastures even if the team pulls a 180 and starts doing things properly just because of geography. It could be any one of those three alone or any combination of the three.

If Giannis leaves Milwaukee that will just drive the point home that small market teams are just not viable markets for NBA teams that want to win anything. They will simply be relegated to being farm teams for big markets which is how things used to be and now they have started to slide back in that direction unless the league tries to prevent it with wholesale changes to the cap, revenue rules, and max player contract structures in the next CBA.


The lakers have missed on free agents for years. They just missed again. The clippers and nets got all stars for the first time. They have been losers for decades. The Knicks are still a disaster. In this case I don’t think perception is reality. No one is building a decade long dynasty anymore. We lost Durant for nothing but overall we aren’t going to lose players for nothing. Some returns have been better than others. We can still build a team that can contend but we won’t have two or three guys that stick with us so we can contend for a decade. No one will. That’s the new nba. Maybe building with lower tier all stars like Conley or try to get a foreign player like Jokic is the way to go. I think the jazz have as good of a chance as anyone next year.

We can attract and keep high caliber players. We just need to get a real coach and quit trading for guys like Kanter and schroder. I don’t care if Presti leaves but I have more hope for the franchise than I did last night. As was already said, I think George is great but he may have peaked last year. I don’t think you are wrong with your frustrations. I just don’t think that last night made anything worse. To the contrary, I think it’s a step in the right direction.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2342 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:41 pm

City of Trees wrote:So I'm curious how Thunder fans view Russ. What kind of package do you expect? Wiggins/Okogie/pick or something much more?

SGA is a great young PG to start building around btw

Honestly, I don’t think we know yet. Personally any positive asset without tons of long term money coming back sounds good to me. Presti has his faults but this type of stuff is normally his wheelhouse.
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Post#2343 » by oreojenkins » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:46 pm

Keep Andrew Wiggins as far away from this team as possible. Would rather just light $170 mil on fire.
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Post#2344 » by spearsy23 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:49 pm

I'd be willing to take a chance on Wiggins if it meant okogie and a pick. Not trying to win it doesn't matter if Wiggins isn't actually good, you have to have one guy willing to iso anyway.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2345 » by Lilseb93 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:49 pm

Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?
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Post#2346 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:52 pm

Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?

Something based on swapping heat cheerleaders with thunder girls is a good place to start.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2347 » by Lilseb93 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:53 pm

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Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?

Something based on swapping heat cheerleaders with thunder girls is a good place to start.


We can arrange that. 8-)
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Post#2348 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:53 pm

Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


Players of your choice + a pick and call it done :)
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Post#2349 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:53 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'd be willing to take a chance on Wiggins if it meant okogie and a pick. Not trying to win it doesn't matter if Wiggins isn't actually good, you have to have one guy willing to iso anyway.

I like okogie but do you think Presti would push for culver instead?
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Post#2350 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:54 pm

Lilseb93 wrote:
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Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?

Something based on swapping heat cheerleaders with thunder girls is a good place to start.


We can arrange that. 8-)


I want the ''call me maybe'' miami dolphins cheerleaders
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2351 » by Lilseb93 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:55 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Something based on swapping heat cheerleaders with thunder girls is a good place to start.


We can arrange that. 8-)


I want the ''call me maybe'' miami dolphins cheerleaders


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Post#2352 » by spearsy23 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:56 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I'd be willing to take a chance on Wiggins if it meant okogie and a pick. Not trying to win it doesn't matter if Wiggins isn't actually good, you have to have one guy willing to iso anyway.

I like okogie but do you think Presti would push for culver instead?

I forgot about Culver. That would be a fantastic fit next to Shai. ****, let's make this happen, somebody tweet Dawson.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2353 » by spearsy23 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:57 pm

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Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


Players of your choice + a pick and call it done :)

Do the heat have any tpe's?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2354 » by slick_watts » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:57 pm

i would definitely do a westbrook / wiggins swap with okogie and a pick coming here. that's a win.
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Post#2355 » by Thunder Up » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:00 pm

KBD is better than Okogie
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Post#2356 » by oreojenkins » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:00 pm

Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


I would expect Dragic + Herro + filler whether it be JJ or Waiters + removing the protections off the pick you owe us. Maybe a little more in the way of draft comp but not sure as I have no idea how much teams are willing to give up for him. I'm sure it ranges from something decent to nothing at all. But that's the gist. I don't expect it to be all of Herro, Bam, Winslow, and picks.
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Post#2357 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:02 pm

oreojenkins wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


I would expect Dragic + Herro + filler whether it be JJ or Waiters + removing the protections off the pick you owe us. Maybe a little more in the way of draft comp but not sure as I have no idea how much teams are willing to give up for him. I'm sure it ranges from something decent to nothing at all. But that's the gist. I don't expect it to be all of Herro, Bam, Winslow, and picks.


They can't trade Herro.
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Post#2358 » by oreojenkins » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:03 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'd be willing to take a chance on Wiggins if it meant okogie and a pick. Not trying to win it doesn't matter if Wiggins isn't actually good, you have to have one guy willing to iso anyway.


I don't care if the players are bad or overpaid necessarily. I think Wiggins is soft and I don't want him around. And four more years is something I'd prefer to avoid unless no other options are out there.
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Post#2359 » by slick_watts » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:04 pm

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Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


I would expect Dragic + Herro + filler whether it be JJ or Waiters + removing the protections off the pick you owe us. Maybe a little more in the way of draft comp but not sure as I have no idea how much teams are willing to give up for him. I'm sure it ranges from something decent to nothing at all. But that's the gist. I don't expect it to be all of Herro, Bam, Winslow, and picks.


They can't trade Herro.


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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2360 » by Lilseb93 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:05 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
oreojenkins wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:Hello Thunder fans,

Yes Barry Jackson is credible and Miami does have interest in Westbrook. I'm not sure how serious they are though. Do you guys have any idea what OKC is expecting for Westbrook?


I would expect Dragic + Herro + filler whether it be JJ or Waiters + removing the protections off the pick you owe us. Maybe a little more in the way of draft comp but not sure as I have no idea how much teams are willing to give up for him. I'm sure it ranges from something decent to nothing at all. But that's the gist. I don't expect it to be all of Herro, Bam, Winslow, and picks.


They can't trade Herro.


I believe they can because he's still unsigned, but I don't think they will. They really need shooters on the bench.
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