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Post#2421 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:08 am

Any Detroit trade I want Kyri Thomas, Sekou and Kennard...throw in Reggie and Galloway for salary matching and a 2021 and 2023 unprotected 1st and they can watch Russ/Blake and Drummond crash and burn. I'll even throw in Patterson because I'm a nice guy.
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Post#2422 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:10 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:If Detroit can throw a pick or two into this it might work would help our tank job. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y54qkkqk

I'd do it with a pick. And I think people would be surprised at how good that team could be with some competent coaching.

I think I might also. I'm afraid Detroit would have to throw a bunch of stuff Dallas' way to grease the skids though which they may not have an ability to do.
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Post#2423 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:13 am

I know summer league is meaningless but it’s more encouraging than Ferguson’s performance last year.

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Post#2424 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:13 am

This is a strange league isn’t it? Honestly PG asking for a trade was probably the best and worst thing that could happen to this team right now. The return OKC got for him can’t be understated; A young prospect, an expiring, and a sh*t ton of picks. Good for Presti if he played the Raps and Clips against each other to get that haul. Keeping Russ at this point makes zero sense and keeping Adams and Grant makes only slightly more sense. It probably doesn’t make much of a difference who the head coach is next season.

This is good news in the sense that the team can stop floundering and start rebuilding. The bad news is that OKC fans are about to see the difference between fighting for a playoff spot and being a perennial lottery team for the foreseeable future. There is a big difference there and it requires an altered mindset as a fan. Once Russ is traded OKC will have lost 4 players with generational talent in less than 10 years. I can’t think of another franchise that has experienced that. This is going to be a very bad basketball team for quite some time.

For those that are concerned about Russ and wanting to make sure that OKC treats him “right” get over it. Russ is well paid and will be just fine wherever he ends up. For those who have been clamoring for this kind of thing to happen, get ready; The Dark Decade has begun.
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Post#2425 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:14 am

ThunderBolt wrote:I know summer league is meaningless but it’s more encouraging than Ferguson’s performance last year.



My guy Hamidou was sort of made for that chaotic Summer League environment with the crazy athleticism that just pops off the screen and the helter skelter style of play that literally every team is engaging in out there.
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Post#2426 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:16 am

Atomic Punk wrote:This is a strange league isn’t it? Honestly PG asking for a trade was probably the best and worst thing that could happen to this team right now. The return OKC got for him can’t be understated; A young prospect, an expiring, and a sh*t ton of picks. Good for Presti if he played the Raps and Clips against each other to get that haul. Keeping Russ at this point makes zero sense and keeping Adams and Grant makes only slightly more sense. It probably doesn’t make much of a difference who the head coach is next season.

This is good news in the sense that the team can stop floundering and start rebuilding. The bad news is that OKC fans are about to see the difference between fighting for a playoff spot and being a perennial lottery team for the foreseeable future. There is a big difference there and it requires an altered mindset as a fan. Once Russ is traded OKC will have lost 4 players with generational talent in less than 10 years. I can’t think of another franchise that has experienced that. This is going to be a very bad basketball team for quite some time.

For those that are concerned about Russ and wanting to make sure that OKC treats him “right” get over it. Russ is well paid and will be just fine wherever he ends up. For those who have been clamoring for this kind of thing to happen, get ready; The Dark Decade has begun.


losing can be fun, too. probably the worst sports experience as a viewer imo is trying to win when there's no chance at winning. i'm glad that future appears to now be the fence posts we're flying over.
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Post#2427 » by Balkman32 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:19 am

In a Detroit deal for Westbrook I think the Thunder would be interested in Kennard and Sekou, but they would have to take Jackson and Galloway to make the salaries work. Jackson and Galloway could be re-routed, picks would have to be involved.
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Post#2428 » by Thunder Up » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:21 am

smh, holy **** you guys
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Post#2429 » by thor19 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:22 am

Jackson to Orlando for more picks
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Post#2430 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:27 am

Atomic Punk wrote:This is a strange league isn’t it? Honestly PG asking for a trade was probably the best and worst thing that could happen to this team right now. The return OKC got for him can’t be understated; A young prospect, an expiring, and a sh*t ton of picks. Good for Presti if he played the Raps and Clips against each other to get that haul. Keeping Russ at this point makes zero sense and keeping Adams and Grant makes only slightly more sense. It probably doesn’t make much of a difference who the head coach is next season.

This is good news in the sense that the team can stop floundering and start rebuilding. The bad news is that OKC fans are about to see the difference between fighting for a playoff spot and being a perennial lottery team for the foreseeable future. There is a big difference there and it requires an altered mindset as a fan. Once Russ is traded OKC will have lost 4 players with generational talent in less than 10 years. I can’t think of another franchise that has experienced that. This is going to be a very bad basketball team for quite some time.

For those that are concerned about Russ and wanting to make sure that OKC treats him “right” get over it. Russ is well paid and will be just fine wherever he ends up. For those who have been clamoring for this kind of thing to happen, get ready; The Dark Decade has begun.


I agree with basically everything you said. I will add that in terms of the Dark Decade to begin or whatever, I just think it depends on what you expect out of following a team.

When I had tickets one of the most fun games I can remember is several years ago when the Thunder were stuck in injury hell (Durant and Russ both injured, Jackson, as it turns out was faking an injury of his own). We played Denver early in the year. Perry Jones had 20. Serge 23. Bassy Telfair was pivotal. And the crowd was as buck as any regular season game I can ever recall.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201411010OKC.html

We weren't supposed to win that game (winless at the time) but those guys fought hard, the crowd got behind them and we willed them to it. It was a blast.
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Post#2431 » by acheema0 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:33 am



Doesn't seem like someone who left on bad terms. Russ also commented on it.
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Post#2432 » by slick_watts » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:35 am

acheema0 wrote:

Doesn't seem like someone who left on bad terms. Russ also commented on it.


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Post#2433 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:36 am

ThunderBolt wrote:I know summer league is meaningless but it’s more encouraging than Ferguson’s performance last year.

[youtube]UkBBlaprKtk[outube]

You found that encouraging? We already knew he could run and jump :-?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2434 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:37 am

spearsy23 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I know summer league is meaningless but it’s more encouraging than Ferguson’s performance last year.

[youtube]UkBBlaprKtk[outube]

You found that encouraging? We already knew he could run and jump :-?

Compared to Ferguson’s performance last year? Ya. He was scoring like 5 pts a game.
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Post#2435 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:40 am

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Atomic Punk wrote:This is a strange league isn’t it? Honestly PG asking for a trade was probably the best and worst thing that could happen to this team right now. The return OKC got for him can’t be understated; A young prospect, an expiring, and a sh*t ton of picks. Good for Presti if he played the Raps and Clips against each other to get that haul. Keeping Russ at this point makes zero sense and keeping Adams and Grant makes only slightly more sense. It probably doesn’t make much of a difference who the head coach is next season.

This is good news in the sense that the team can stop floundering and start rebuilding. The bad news is that OKC fans are about to see the difference between fighting for a playoff spot and being a perennial lottery team for the foreseeable future. There is a big difference there and it requires an altered mindset as a fan. Once Russ is traded OKC will have lost 4 players with generational talent in less than 10 years. I can’t think of another franchise that has experienced that. This is going to be a very bad basketball team for quite some time.

For those that are concerned about Russ and wanting to make sure that OKC treats him “right” get over it. Russ is well paid and will be just fine wherever he ends up. For those who have been clamoring for this kind of thing to happen, get ready; The Dark Decade has begun.


I agree with basically everything you said. I will add that in terms of the Dark Decade to begin or whatever, I just think it depends on what you expect out of following a team.

When I had tickets one of the most fun games I can remember is several years ago when the Thunder were stuck in injury hell (Durant and Russ both injured, Jackson, as it turns out was faking an injury of his own). We played Denver early in the year. Perry Jones had 20. Serge 23. Bassy Telfair was pivotal. And the crowd was as buck as any regular season game I can ever recall.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201411010OKC.html
We weren't supposed to win that game (winless at the time) but those guys fought hard, the crowd got behind them and we willed them to it. It was a blast.

It's a lot easier to root for a loser when you know it's short term. We'll see how behind the team casual fans are in three years when we haven't drafted a superstar and are still losing.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2436 » by Old Man Game » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:48 am

spearsy23 wrote:It's a lot easier to root for a loser when you know it's short term. We'll see how behind the team casual fans are in three years when we haven't drafted a superstar and are still losing.


I don't think they have to have a superstar, they just need signs of life. Something to reel them in and keep a degree of hope alive.
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Post#2437 » by spearsy23 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:50 am

Bazely trade is official. Hopefully he'll see some summer league action.
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Post#2438 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:50 am

Old Man Game wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:It's a lot easier to root for a loser when you know it's short term. We'll see how behind the team casual fans are in three years when we haven't drafted a superstar and are still losing.


I don't think they have to have a superstar, they just need signs of life. Something to reel them in and keep a degree of hope alive.

Good ball movement alone would get me through at least one bad season.
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Post#2439 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:54 am

Old Man Game wrote:I don't think they have to have a superstar, they just need signs of life. Something to reel them in and keep a degree of hope alive.


They got that in SGA. It won't take long for him to become the fan favorite and bring in hope as a rising star. If Ferguson takes the step forward I believe he is capable of those two will have the fans very excited about the future. If Diallo develops a decent shot they will have 3 pieces growing in front of our eyes. Hopefully Bazley proves my complete doubt about him being an NBA player wrong.
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Post#2440 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 2:57 am

Man the Pistons are a mess. Big contracts to Blake and Andre.

Brand new arena with a lot of empty seats.

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