Trade for Westbrook?

[bstein14]

Westbrook trade only works with Drummond going out. It would be different if Drummond was a defensive anchor, or a guy who could hit a 12 to 15 foot jump shot. We don't need Drummond's rebounding if we've got Westbrook and Blake both getting 10+ per night its just going minimize the one thing Drummond is good at. Westbrook isn't a player that is going to set up Dre for a bunch of easy buckets. He isn't Chris Paul or even John Wall in that regard.

Also, for sure Snell is a less appealing player in a trade than the expiring contract of Leuer.

Also, Westbrook's contract really is bad, its way beyond what Blake is making and Blake is the better player. Westbrook is a player you can't give up multiple picks for.

For me, this is a Westbrook trade that makes sense for Detroit. No picks going out, just swapping players. It works in the trade checker. Westbrook is too inefficient and makes too much to give up a bunch of picks for.
Detroit gets: Adams + Westbrook
OKC gets: Drummond, Jackson, Galloway, Snell

[russkopp]

I want no part of Westbrook. He’s constantly injured and too expensive.

Our team reset happens in 2021. He’d mess that up.

[rmfc]

Trade for Westbrook? Yes, please!!

A Westbrook trade mean that this team would finally have it's first legit back court player since the Chauncey-Rip era.

[dVs33]

I think I'd go mad watching Westbrook in a Detroit jersey. No thanks. Too much money for the impact he has now and his health isn't great either. There's especially no way I would consider trading a bunch of 1sts, sekou or kennard. He doesn't have that value anymore.

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[vege]

Jackson, Galloway, Maker and Kennard work for salary match purposes. We're going to have to give up something other than picks anyways. I just hope it's Kennard and not Doumbouya. I don't think any team will offer $40M in expirings, we can offer $30M in expiring contracts + Kennard. We also have the Bullock 2.5M TPE we could use for a second deal with OKC to take on another player back - given we offer a 4-for-1, they'll have to cut three players, we can use the TPE to take one of those on so they only have to eat the contracts of two of them.

I think Westbrook has a NTC though, and will call his shot to South Beach.

Like I said, we can't make a deal work without Snell. Kennard would be way too important for us and a 4 for 1 is not realistic. 3 for 1 is already bad enough.

Kennard will be too passive to matter playing with Westbrook. What's the use of being a good shooter if you never take a shot?

He will be so wide open with defenders worried about Blake and Westbrook. We would have 2 top 15 (I'd argue maybe top 10) players who are amazing offensive players. Kennard would be great playing with them.

[Kilo]

Would Westbrook waive his TB to come here? Doubtful. So he'd be making 47M in his final year here.

That is a lot of moolah. I have to believe that would make him the highest paid player that season, assuming Wall isn't traded to have his kicker activated as well.

Absolute tax hell when you give away three rookie contracts over the length of the Griffin/Westbrook deals. And Dre and Blake would walk and not be traded when they expire because of their player options they wouldn't ever be "expiring" trade commodities.

[pistonpat]

The NBA would laugh at us if we made the trade. Listen to Woj and Lowe talk about Westbrook's contract. They called it an albatross and one you might have to get assets to take it. There is always one team that is so desperate and dumb to give up assets to pay an aging all star who is losing his athleticism and can't shoot....T. Gores and the Pistons are there to serve you...

[DCintheD]

Drummond, Reggie, LG, Thon, and Luke for Westbrook and Adams.

No other young players or picks.

[MotownMadness]

The NBA would laugh at us if we made the trade. Listen to Woj and Lowe talk about Westbrook's contract. They called it an albatross and one you might have to get assets to take it. There is always one team that is so desperate and dumb to give up assets to pay an aging all star who is losing his athleticism and can't shoot....T. Gores and the Pistons are there to serve you...

Im sure they laugh at us now too so who gives a ****

[Snakebites]

The NBA would laugh at us if we made the trade. Listen to Woj and Lowe talk about Westbrook's contract. They called it an albatross and one you might have to get assets to take it. There is always one team that is so desperate and dumb to give up assets to pay an aging all star who is losing his athleticism and can't shoot....T. Gores and the Pistons are there to serve you...

Im sure they laugh at us now too so who gives a ****

I don’t think anyone cares about the laughter. It’s the reality behind it.

The best argument I’m hearing is various forms of “we’re screwed anyway so may as well go for it”. I understand the mentality. I really do. But it’s wrong. Taking on this contract would be a huge mistake. Giving up youth and assets makes it even worse.

Praying the random reports we’ve read are BS.

[kpt]

This feels like iverson all over again. I know it wouldn’t be quite that bad and we will be giving up draft picks and youth but that is what it feels to me.

[MotownMadness]

The NBA would laugh at us if we made the trade. Listen to Woj and Lowe talk about Westbrook's contract. They called it an albatross and one you might have to get assets to take it. There is always one team that is so desperate and dumb to give up assets to pay an aging all star who is losing his athleticism and can't shoot....T. Gores and the Pistons are there to serve you...

Im sure they laugh at us now too so who gives a ****

I don’t think anyone cares about the laughter. It’s the reality behind it.

The best argument I’m hearing is various forms of “we’re screwed anyway so may as well go for it”. I understand the mentality. I really do. But it’s wrong. Taking on this contract would be a huge mistake. Giving up youth and assets makes it even worse.

Praying the random reports we’ve read are BS.

Personally i dont think were screwed already like 90% of everyone else and wouldn't use that logic. My god the NBA landscape changes so much in a year's time. I want Westbrook cause i think hes still pretty damn good aside from that chucking non sense.

We would definitely be locked in after this move though

[pistonpat]

Just for those who have not seen Westbrook play in the past year. Some FACTS:

He shot 29% from 3
He shot 42% from the floor
His team got knocked out in the first round with arguably a better starting lineup than the Pistons, and won 1 game.

And these stats have been on the decline year to year as his elite athleticism is slowly eroding and will even more in the next four years.

If you have not seen Westbrook play lately and don't project what the next four years will be like in his 30s, this is not a good acquisition at this time and not someone you give up young assets to get. If OKC, is willing to take expiring contracts of REggie, Langston and some other non essential piece, fine. But Sam Presti just fleeced the Clippers and you know Gores and company are so desperate it could be worse. Woj and Lowe talk to the smart people in the NBA. No smart GM is giving up any young assets or 1st round draft picks for Westbrook's contract. Cap flexibility is the one thing that would make sense because Jackson and Langston expire. You start including 1st round picks, Luke and/or Seouko and it would be a disaster....

[Liqourish]

I’m at an ”eff it, let’s have some fun” stage. I’m all for a Reggie, Snell, Sekou, 2 1sts for Westbrook deal. Win or lose at least it would be fun to watch and we haven’t won anything in over a decade anyway.

R. Westbrook/D. Rose/T. Frazier
L. Kennard/K. Thomas/B. Brown
FA/M. Morris/S. M-whatever
B. Griffin/M. Morris/T. Maker
A. Drummond/FA/T. Maker

People talking contracts, albatrosses and cap space... I don’t care. I’m not paying it. I only care if it’s entertaining me. Watching bad basketball in hopes of success 2-12 years down the road doesn’t entertain me. Why do people want cap space? To sign good players. But then they don’t want to trade for good players if it means the team doesn’t rebuild? I don’t have that mentality. I want to win now, I want to see fun entertaining basketball now.

If the Pistons trade for RW it will be entertaining.

[Snakebites]

Just for those who have not seen Westbrook play in the past year. Some FACTS:

He shot 29% from 3
He shot 42% from the floor
His team got knocked out in the first round with arguably a better starting lineup than the Pistons, and won 1 game.

And these stats have been on the decline year to year as his elite athleticism is slowly eroding and will even more in the next four years.

If you have not seen Westbrook play lately and don't project what the next four years will be like in his 30s, this is not a good acquisition at this time and not someone you give up young assets to get. If OKC, is willing to take expiring contracts of REggie, Langston and some other non essential piece, fine. But Sam Presti just fleeced the Clippers and you know Gores and company are so desperate it could be worse. Woj and Lowe talk to the smart people in the NBA. No smart GM is giving up any young assets or 1st round draft picks for Westbrook's contract. Cap flexibility is the one thing that would make sense because Jackson and Langston expire. You start including 1st round picks, Luke and/or Seouko and it would be a disaster....

His overall scoring efficiency last year was on par with Allen Iverson in his year with us.

[MotownMadness]

Just for those who have not seen Westbrook play in the past year. Some FACTS:

He shot 29% from 3
He shot 42% from the floor
His team got knocked out in the first round with arguably a better starting lineup than the Pistons, and won 1 game.

And these stats have been on the decline year to year as his elite athleticism is slowly eroding and will even more in the next four years.

If you have not seen Westbrook play lately and don't project what the next four years will be like in his 30s, this is not a good acquisition at this time and not someone you give up young assets to get. If OKC, is willing to take expiring contracts of REggie, Langston and some other non essential piece, fine. But Sam Presti just fleeced the Clippers and you know Gores and company are so desperate it could be worse. Woj and Lowe talk to the smart people in the NBA. No smart GM is giving up any young assets or 1st round draft picks for Westbrook's contract. Cap flexibility is the one thing that would make sense because Jackson and Langston expire. You start including 1st round picks, Luke and/or Seouko and it would be a disaster....

The guy literally avgs a triple double and can get to the rim at will. Hes a talent just kills his percentages with too many ill advised shots.

I mean we literally got Blake having to deal with double teams every possession so adding a talent like that has to be load management in itself around here lol

Also looks like hes always got a pretty high OBPM and DPBM so he must be bringing something too the table on both sides of the ball

[haulerch]

I’m ok with this trade if it’s for expirings. Honestly, they should be giving us a first round pick. Probably most I’d offer if expirings and a SRP or a heavily heavily protected first.

I see us or the Heat as the most likely scenario.

[tradez401]

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morris trying to recruit russ? lol.

[MotownMadness]

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morris trying to recruit russ? lol.

Lol, but on a serious note isnt Blake pretty cool with him? Thought i remember them working out together in Oklahoma like a offseason ago or maybe im losing it

[MotownMadness]

For me its either this or Dlo when hes eligible. Just Dlo will take a few more assets but is still so young