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Kilo wrote:Fandom is a weird thing - pre-draft I wouldn't bat an eye trading #15, Kennard and a 2021 FRP - but now that we drafted Doumbouya I don't want to include him at all and might even be willing to walk away if OKC insisted on his inclusion.
sc8581 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:Neptune wrote:We're already committed to Blake and Dre, why not go all in with Westbrook and see what we can do? Just like someone said in here, maybe we lure players to sign with Detroit to make us better.
With Dre/Blake/Westbrook all the money is spent. You cant lure anyone else on the team. This is the same problem the Thunder just had they couldnt add to the roster due to being capped out and they had just lost 4-1 to the blazers in the first round.
Dre will be off the books next summer assuming he opts out for a long-term deal, that will certainly help. We also have a handful of young players that are cheap for now, assuming they're not included in the deal because they shouldn't be.
Cowology wrote:We are better with Dre than without, but I have no interest in giving him another max contract and I don't want to lose him for nothing. There could be something to moving him now as opposed to a year or two down the line when he starts dictating where he wants to go.
Neptune wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:Neptune wrote:\
We're already committed to Blake and Dre, why not go all in with Westbrook and see what we can do? Just like someone said in here, maybe we lure players to sign with Detroit to make us better.
Liqourish wrote:Kilo wrote:Fandom is a weird thing - pre-draft I wouldn't bat an eye trading #15, Kennard and a 2021 FRP - but now that we drafted Doumbouya I don't want to include him at all and might even be willing to walk away if OKC insisted on his inclusion.
That’s exactly my point. If we were to open capspace, we’d hope to sign a player like Westbrook and possibly move assets (players+picks) to open space and everyone would applaud the free agent signing. But those same fans don’t want to part with players+picks in a trade for that same player.
Kilo wrote:Cowology wrote:We are better with Dre than without, but I have no interest in giving him another max contract and I don't want to lose him for nothing. There could be something to moving him now as opposed to a year or two down the line when he starts dictating where he wants to go.
Dre has been interviewed twice during SL and both times he's asked about his PO and being a FA and he's played coy but given every indication that if healthy he'll opt out and look to get PAID. So he'll go to the highest bidder - I don't want that to be us. Ideally OKC would want him for whatever reason and include Adams coming back our way in the deal.
buzzkilloton wrote:Neptune wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:
No what we need to do at some point is commit to a rebuild. We see the thunder who just had Adams/PG13/Westbrook not win a playoff series for 2 seasons so they're blowing it up which is what they should do. Some pistons fans and Gores want to replicate them.
We're already committed to Blake and Dre, why not go all in with Westbrook and see what we can do? Just like someone said in here, maybe we lure players to sign with Detroit to make us better.
With Dre/Blake/Westbrook all the money is spent. You cant lure anyone else on the team. This is the same problem the Thunder just had they couldnt add to the roster due to being capped out and they had just lost 4-1 to the blazers in the first round.
A_dub06 wrote:Liqourish wrote:Kilo wrote:Fandom is a weird thing - pre-draft I wouldn't bat an eye trading #15, Kennard and a 2021 FRP - but now that we drafted Doumbouya I don't want to include him at all and might even be willing to walk away if OKC insisted on his inclusion.
That’s exactly my point. If we were to open capspace, we’d hope to sign a player like Westbrook and possibly move assets (players+picks) to open space and everyone would applaud the free agent signing. But those same fans don’t want to part with players+picks in a trade for that same player.
Actually if we had the cap space and RW was a free agent I think you would find all of us against trading for him would also be against signing him. And no, I would not be open to moving assets to open up cap space because cap space in Detroit isn’t valuable in terms of signing free agents.
I understand how infuriating/underwhelming/depressing the team has been but as fanatics of this team let’s aim our sights on the real glory which is winning a championship and stop going for short term moves that at best will only improve how watchable the team is. If you’re mature enough to admit this team with RW isn’t making the conference finals then you should also be able to see that trading assets for him only gives us less assets towards the rebuild which will inevitably come one way or another and will also lower the ceiling of that rebuild.
Neptune wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:Neptune wrote:We're already committed to Blake and Dre, why not go all in with Westbrook and see what we can do? Just like someone said in here, maybe we lure players to sign with Detroit to make us better.
With Dre/Blake/Westbrook all the money is spent. You cant lure anyone else on the team. This is the same problem the Thunder just had they couldnt add to the roster due to being capped out and they had just lost 4-1 to the blazers in the first round.
Huh? You would get other players through drafts, trades, mid level exceptions and vet mins.
