Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 II: BIG as F

[pepe1991]

Herro seems to be in the package, because they didnt signed him yet but there 2nd round pick.

Yea that's possible as well.
I'm still mindblown that Raptors turned off George +Westbrook for Siakam and additional players to fit salary


From favorites to defend title to rebuild with 1 stupid decision

Yea even more because they aren't a free agent destination. The price would be prolly 3-4 firsts too but George & Kawhi should have 3-4 prime years left at least (not sure about Kawhi tbh). He prolly felt too much in love with Siakam.

I like Siakam as player but George is better player. Crazy awkward decision.

[tiderulz]

Heat with Butler and Wade, Hero, Waiters, Winslow, James Jones would actually be legit ( assuming Dragic is one of players who would be traded )

Wade retired.

[pepe1991]

Heat with Butler and Wade, Hero, Waiters, Winslow, James Jones would actually be legit ( assuming Dragic is one of players who would be traded )

Wade retired.

Westbrook

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[Knightro]

I would rather Westbrook go to Miami than Detroit, especially if they give up Herro and/or Adebayo.

Westbrook/Butler/Winslow would be a total disaster shooting/spacing wise. I think they'd be easier to defend.

[Magic#1]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

[magicman112]

I would rather Westbrook go to Miami than Detroit, especially if they give up Herro and/or Adebayo.

Westbrook/Butler/Winslow would be a total disaster shooting/spacing wise. I think they'd be easier to defend.

And Butler and Westbrook would likely get into an actual fight over the ball lol.

[Knightro]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

Tyus Jones and Delon Wright are both worse than current DJ Augustin IMO.

Think about it another way.

Which is bigger? The gap in talent between Aminu and Iwundu or the gap in talent between Tyus Jones and MCW?

Because to me, the gap between Aminu (career 0.0 BPM) and Iwundu (career -3.0 BPM) is more significant than the gap between Jones (career -1.3 BPM) and Carter-Williams (career -0.7 BPM).

[tiderulz]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

you would have to believe Jones is a starting PG. i am not one of those, but I have not always been 100% right

[Popsicle1228]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

Looking at the way the Magic have approached the off season, I honestly think there may be some positive progress being made by Fultz. I could be wrong, but at this point, I think the Magic believe their gamble is going to have at least a decent pay off.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

Tyus Jones and Delon Wright are both worse than current DJ Augustin IMO.

Think about it another way.

Which is bigger? The gap in talent between Aminu and Iwundu or the gap in talent between Tyus Jones and MCW?

Because to me, the gap between Aminu (career 0.0 BPM) and Iwundu (career -3.0 BPM) is more significant than the gap between Jones (career -1.3 BPM) and Carter-Williams (career -0.7 BPM).

Think its easy to say Jones is way better than MCW and Aminu is way better than Iwundu. FO has Fultz in hand and decided to take a flyer on backup 4 hoping Fultz works out. Comparing BPM and trying to decipher that those would stay the same on different teams doesn't seem like a smart move to me without digging deeper into it.

[Optimus_Steel]

I would rather Westbrook go to Miami than Detroit, especially if they give up Herro and/or Adebayo.

Westbrook/Butler/Winslow would be a total disaster shooting/spacing wise. I think they'd be easier to defend.

And Butler and Westbrook would likely get into an actual fight over the ball lol.

It would be tremendously entertaining. Constant side eyes and scowls. Instead of waiting to receive a pass, teammates would be alert to separate them.

[Bergmaniac]

Tyus Jones is a restricted free agent and there is a good chance that the Wolves match the offer for him. We could have ended with unused cap space and no decent free agents left on the market. I'd have liked to see him come to the Magic but it would have been risky to make an offer for him.

[Knightro]

Think its easy to say Jones is way better than MCW and Aminu is way better than Iwundu. FO has Fultz in hand and decided to take a flyer on backup 4 hoping Fultz works out. Comparing BPM and trying to decipher that those would stay the same on different teams doesn't seem like a smart move to me without digging deeper into it.

I would agree that citing BPM alone was a very broad stroke, but I think my point still stands.

The gap between Aminu and Iwundu is wider than the gap between Jones and MCW.

Combine that with the fact that NBA teams play two forwards at a time and only one point guard at a time and it means there's double the amount of backup minutes available at the 3/4 than there is at just the 1.

Combine THAT with the fact Iwundu is a non-essential piece who only makes 1.6M and Fultz at least appears to be a guy they want to give a real shot to while also making 9.7M.

Adding a 4th PG at 8-10M when they already have three on the roster combining to make close to 20M never made financial sense from a team building perspective.

Adding a guy who immediately steps in as your third best forward at the same 8-10M price when the current backups are a 2nd round pick and a rookie rehabbing a torn ACL definitely makes more sense.

[fendilim]

I wouldn't be surprised if we re-sign Briscoe.


I don't think WeHam is stupid enough to go into the season without getting an insurance 3rd PG, and put all eggs on the Fultz' basket.

[Knightro]

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[OrlandO]

For anybody saying who we should have gone after instead of signing Aminu see Tyus Jones. There were players out there who would have been our potential starting point guard instead of a guaranteed backup forward.

Jones just turned 23, played pretty well when the Wolves needed him to start, and they only have expiring PGs Teague/Napier... they will probably match the offer.

[basketballRob]

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[basketballRob]

You could almost see this coming with RJ Barrett. He's like one of the youngest in the draft going to NY with all that added pressure. I can't stand Stephen A Smith's questions to these young guys. He was asking RJ if he was going to be able to carry the Knicks. Why add pressure on them.

He did the same thing to Fultz. Fultz was barely 19 and Stephen A was asking him if he was going to be able to do what Iverson did. Fultz was just barely able to make a sentence, much less dominate the NBA.

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[tiderulz]

SI doesnt like our free agency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/which-team-was-the-most-clueless-during-nba-free-agency/ar-AAE23Fl?li=BBnba9I

Michael Shapiro, Magic
Orlando’s cap space has to go to someone, but the Magic’s continued stockpiling of bigs is downright confusing. Nikola Vucevic’s return may ultimately be for the best given Mo Bamba’s disastrous rookie year, though the Al-Farouq Aminu signing continues to grow Orlando’s glut of bigs. The open jumpers will be available far less often with D.J. Augustin instead of Damian Lillard. Pair Aminu and Vucevic with Bamba, Jonathan Isaac and Aaron Gordon, and Orlando’s roster construction remains among the league’s worst.

[pepe1991]

SI doesnt like our free agency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/which-team-was-the-most-clueless-during-nba-free-agency/ar-AAE23Fl?li=BBnba9I

Michael Shapiro, Magic
Orlando’s cap space has to go to someone, but the Magic’s continued stockpiling of bigs is downright confusing. Nikola Vucevic’s return may ultimately be for the best given Mo Bamba’s disastrous rookie year, though the Al-Farouq Aminu signing continues to grow Orlando’s glut of bigs. The open jumpers will be available far less often with D.J. Augustin instead of Damian Lillard. Pair Aminu and Vucevic with Bamba, Jonathan Isaac and Aaron Gordon, and Orlando’s roster construction remains among the league’s worst.

he open jumpers will be available far less often with D.J. Augustin instead of Damian Lillard. Pair Aminu and Vucevic with Bamba, Jonathan Isaac and Aaron Gordon, and Orlando’s roster construction remains among the league’s worst.

This part is true.
Pretty bad guard rotation, louded at PF -C spot. No starting level SF who is actually full time SF.