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Post#2741 » by Old Man Game » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:11 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:How is it possible to play basketball for so long and have guys like this a simmons?


I think I sort of understand. I'm one of these quasi-ambidextrous people myself. I do everything right handed except I hand write with my left hand. It just feels natural. Something in the wiring upstairs got short circuited I guess. It seems Simmons and Bazley have the same problem but it exhibited itself in shooting a ball.

Apparently this is more common than I thought. I'm a lefty who writes and plays any racquet sports right handed.


Jeez and we are all regulars on this site. There's a neurology research project just waitig out there for some PHD candidate, social media and internet interaction traits of the quasi-ambidexterous.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2742 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:12 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Sam presti is turning this situation a little hinkie

The difference is Hinkie's tank was extended. I don't think presti will aggressively try to get a core in place asap. We'll get a high draft pick next year and maybe at some point he targets another young player to get the new core three in place. Regardless of how good or bad the team is, I think he wants to give the fanbase some hope pretty quickly.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2743 » by jambalaya » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:13 pm

Westbrook to Spurs is unlikely and wild. But possible if some third team wants Derozan.

Presti helped Ainge win a title. Could be willing to try to help RJ and Pop. But only if they are in the mood to try it.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2744 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:15 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:Sam presti is turning this situation a little hinkie

The difference is Hinkie's tank was extended. I don't think presti will aggressively try to get a core in place asap. We'll get a high draft pick next year and maybe at some point he targets another young player to get the new core three in place. Regardless of how good or bad the team is, I think he wants to give the fanbase some hope pretty quickly.

I'd guess three years of acquiring any and all assets. After that you try and win as the LA picks hopefully become higher value.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2745 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:16 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Trade him to the Knicks.

Or Maybe the Knicks can back out of their wack deals. LOL


The Knicks don't want him. They didn't make an offer for Anthony Davis and didn't off kd the max. What makes you think they would want Russ on his contract? They are committed to their youth and building their organization for a change instead of trying to chase another me first fake superstar like they did with Melo.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2746 » by slick_watts » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:24 pm

the complication with miami is that they cannot save us any money. most trades they can do will increase our salary. i do not think we make a westbrook trade and remain above the tax. if we do something with miami a 3rd team would be involved imo.
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Post#2747 » by Kizz Fastfists » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:26 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:The difference is Hinkie's tank was extended. I don't think presti will aggressively try to get a core in place asap. We'll get a high draft pick next year and maybe at some point he targets another young player to get the new core three in place. Regardless of how good or bad the team is, I think he wants to give the fanbase some hope pretty quickly.


Presti already has the first piece, SGA, in place. It took Hinkie a while to get there because he drafted a few injured players and was overly optimistic about the stretch ability of Noel and Okafor. I don't see Presti drafting multiple centers in the top 5. I think SGA, Ferguson and Diallo are long-term players. Anyone else is movable right now. Right now I'm looking at Jaden McDaniels in the 2020 draft.

If Presti is going to create a fit problem it will be from too many athletic slashing combo guards that can't shoot. Russ, Reggie Jackson and Schroder types. Those types are easier to move for some value then the Noel and Okafor types when you realize they can't play together. Wait, Presti will never realize that 5 slashers that can't shoot shouldn't play together. This could end up really ugly unless Presti has grown to understand that 3 points is better than 2 points. If someone sees him around please show him how to count to three on his fingers and explain to him that NBA does have a 3 point shot now even though it didn't when he was born.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2748 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:27 pm

bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2749 » by Balkman32 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:41 pm

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This does not surprise anyone that has been paying attention to Thunder basketball through Russ' career. I do wish he would have waited a week for Russ to be traded before he started spewing the truth out there. However, the teams chasing Russ are so desperate that it probably doesn't change anything. Hopefully, Russ will be on the Heat in 24 hours to boost the value of our 2021 draft pick from them, it could probably get the protections removed on the 2023 pick and get us an unprotected 2025 pick...might even get pick swaps in 2022 and 2024. LAC pick swaps are 2023 and 2025.


Russ will win the Heat games by him self in 20-21, so I don't think that is the right move.

Why would we deal him to Miami we have their first round picks already. Trade him to the Knicks.

Or Maybe the Knicks can back out of their wack deals. LOL


What if next year and the following year Russ declines as much as he did from 2018 season to the 2019 season? That has the potential to get very ugly.


I feel very confident that Russ will be just fine through the rest of 2019. Give him some rest management games...
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2750 » by Balkman32 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:43 pm

slick_watts wrote:the complication with miami is that they cannot save us any money. most trades they can do will increase our salary. i do not think we make a westbrook trade and remain above the tax. if we do something with miami a 3rd team would be involved imo.


We could get to the tax savings with a Miami deal. Right now we are only about $4 million over the Lux Tax line.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2751 » by Balkman32 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:46 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Sam presti is turning this situation a little hinkie

The difference is Hinkie's tank was extended. I don't think presti will aggressively try to get a core in place asap. We'll get a high draft pick next year and maybe at some point he targets another young player to get the new core three in place. Regardless of how good or bad the team is, I think he wants to give the fanbase some hope pretty quickly.


The thing that hurt the 6ers is they kept drafting injured players and not good ones in Noel and Okafor. I think everyone will look back at how long that process took and it would only take Presti half that time and maybe even shorter with his 12+ first round draft picks in the next 6 years.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2752 » by slick_watts » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:47 pm

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slick_watts wrote:the complication with miami is that they cannot save us any money. most trades they can do will increase our salary. i do not think we make a westbrook trade and remain above the tax. if we do something with miami a 3rd team would be involved imo.


We could get to the tax savings with a Miami deal. Right now we are only about $4 million over the Lux Tax line.


miami is hard capped post-butler and will not have much wiggle room.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2753 » by Thundershock88 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:49 pm

I like Diallo a lot. I really think he has some major potential.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2754 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:49 pm


He's basically Magic, is what I'm getting here.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2755 » by spearsy23 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:51 pm

spearsy23 wrote:

He's basically Magic, is what I'm getting here.

Also, as of writing this, the two teams are a combined 2-29 from three.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2756 » by Balkman32 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:57 pm

slick_watts wrote:
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slick_watts wrote:the complication with miami is that they cannot save us any money. most trades they can do will increase our salary. i do not think we make a westbrook trade and remain above the tax. if we do something with miami a 3rd team would be involved imo.


We could get to the tax savings with a Miami deal. Right now we are only about $4 million over the Lux Tax line.


miami is hard capped post-butler and will not have much wiggle room.


They are at $136 rn and can ONLY go up to $138. So, yes you are right. I just don't see Miami being the spot for Russ. Due, to this factor and that we have 2 of their first round picks already.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2757 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:57 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
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He's basically Magic, is what I'm getting here.

Also, as of writing this, the two teams are a combined 2-29 from three.


Presti must enjoy this
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2758 » by Darthlukey » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:58 pm

You guys are into firesale mode, but I do like grant for nugs 1st. Another asset for the warchest for you guys
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2759 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Jul 8, 2019 8:07 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:I like Diallo a lot. I really think he has some major potential.

Yea I do too. If he can develop any kind of a jump shot that would be huge.
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Re: Thunder Offseason Thread 

Post#2760 » by Pillendreher » Mon Jul 8, 2019 8:22 pm

slick_watts wrote:pillhendreher got his wish.


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