Trade for Westbrook?

Post #601 » by **Cowology** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:04 am

Snakebites wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
Manocad wrote:I believe Westbrook is smarter than some people here and realizes that coming to Detroit won't get him a championship.
Well let's not get that confident. I've been hearing that repeatedly today and it reminded me of when the team traded stackhouse and everyone said "why? It doesnt move the needle!" And then they landed Rasheed and most people said it was a huge mistake and there's no way they could win a title.

Lots of confident answers I've seen over the past few days. I for one will never underestimate an MVP player combined with two all star bigmen.

Only thing I'll get upset about is if the team stands pat, and goes into the season as is. What is the damn point. Blow it up, or swing for the fences. This playing it safe garbage is for the birds.

I don’t remember anyone complaining about the Sheed deal. I was thrilled at the time.

The Stack trade was controversial because Rip was unproven at the time. Not the same.

I wasnt thrilled with the Stack trade. After averaging almost 30 ppg and carrying a bad team, he came back in '02 and took about 7 shots less per game because it's what we asked him to do for the good of the team. He was amongst the league leaders in fta per game, which is always super valuable and he was a great community guy. I knew he was flawed, but i just really liked him as a person. Solid dude. And i didn't know a ton about Rip at the time.

The Sheed deal was a no brainer, especially for Bad Boys fans that could overlook his emotional outbursts and history of T's.

Neptune · Post #602 » by **Neptune** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:13 am

flow wrote:
Neptune wrote:Yall might think I'm crazy, but I really believe we're in the background negotiating a better deal than Miami to acquire Westbrook. I just got this feeling man. Westbrook to Detroit just makes too much sense!

What about it makes too much sense?

It makes sense to pair Griffin, Drummond, and Coach Casey with a star point guard if we're planning on competing with this core!

Bknight4three · Post #603 » by **Bknight4three** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:22 am

I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

ComboGuardCity · Post #604 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:30 am

Honestly this reminds of June 2012 when I was sure Drummond would fall to us and be our pick. (Albeit to pair with Monroe and create the best big man combo in the NBA). To me, Blake is the perfect star to pair with Westbrook and Casey will be the best coach he’s ever had.

Kilo · Post #605 » by **Kilo** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:32 am

My current CT is Pistons are hiding Doumbouya with a phantom injury while they try to trade with OKC with him off the table. He's out of sight, out of mind to the level their current scouts can't get a look at him and get set on wanting him. We had him rated in our top 10 overall, and see him as a big talent. How much would OKC scouts have looked at Sekou in their pre-draft process?

Sekou is a guy I want to keep to have develop around Griffin and Westbrook. He'd be ready to step up at 22 yrs old as their contracts are expiring here in a best case scenario.

kellmellus50 · Post #606 » by **kellmellus50** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:35 am

Your all crazy to think the pistons would trade for a 30 year old man and pay him 30-45 million a season.

DetroitPistons · Post #607 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:40 am

Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

kellmellus50 · Post #608 » by **kellmellus50** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:41 am

Your all crazy to think the pistons would trade for a 30 year old man and pay him 30-45 million a season. he's on a fast down slide 31pts 2016....... -26pt 2017 .....22 pts 2018 and 2019 maybe he will get 18 pts a game same as reggie jackson .

DetroitPistons · Post #609 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:45 am

kellmellus50 wrote:Your all crazy to think the pistons would trade for a 30 year old man and pay him 30-45 million a season. he's on a fast down slide 31pts 2016....... -26pt 2017 .....22 pts 2018 and 2019 maybe he will get 18 pts a game same as reggie jackson .

A lot of that is playing with Paul George who had the best year of his career last year. Before George Westbrook was the only guy so he could get away with scoring all the points.

Bknight4three · Post #610 » by **Bknight4three** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:54 am

DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

We can keep Snell if we trade Jackson, Svi, Thomas, Langston, Maker.

kellmellus50 · Post #611 » by **kellmellus50** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:54 am

Westbrook hogs the ball not a good team mate he will be 31 in november. This will go down as the worst trade in pistons history.

DetroitPistons · Post #612 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:55 am

Bknight4three wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

We can keep Snell if we trade Jackson, Svi, Thomas, Langston, Maker.

I thought about that too but the problem is doing a 5 for 1 trade when OKC has a full roster. We would need a 3rd team most likely. It also leaves us really shallow on the bench.

kellmellus50 · Post #613 » by **kellmellus50** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:00 am

LOL i will be laughing at all of you when the pistons do not trade for him.

Neptune · Post #614 » by **Neptune** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:01 am

DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

One of Kennard or Doumbouya will have to be traded in order to get a top 5 point-guard/All-NBA/former MVP type player.

DetroitPistons · Post #615 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:05 am

kellmellus50 wrote:LOL i will be laughing at all of you when the pistons do not trade for him.

Why? Calm down buddy...

DetroitPistons · Post #616 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:06 am

Neptune wrote::D
DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

One of Kennard or Doumbouya will have to be traded in order to get a top 5 point-guard/All-NBA/former MVP type player.

We don't know that. Some of the experts like Lowe and Woj think OKC might actually give up assets to get rid of his contract. The potential offers could be all over the place. We really have no idea what an offer would look like. Just kind of speculating right now.

zeebneeb · Post #617 » by **zeebneeb** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:28 am

kellmellus50 wrote:LOL i will be laughing at all of you when the pistons do not trade for him.

Is this a case of dropped on head as a kid, or westbrook shot your dog?

potatoaim · Post #618 » by **potatoaim** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:37 am

Neptune wrote::D
DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:I will be very bummed if Sekou is in the deal. He’s the young guy with enough potential to be a building block if we have to rebuild. Westy and Blake are insanely hard workers and I think our culture would be rock solid.

The ideal scenario would be to offer 2 FRPs and keep Kennard and Doumbouya. Jackson, Snell, Galloway, 2 unprotected FRPs for Westbrook. Use Doumbouya as a 5th option 3 and D guy to develop him at first.

Westbrook/Rose/Frazier
Kennard/Thomas/Brown
Doumbouya/Mykhailiuk
Griffin/Morris
Drummond/Maker

That team has a lot of potential. We would need Thomas and Svi to step up and establish themselves though.

One of Kennard or Doumbouya will have to be traded in order to get a top 5 point-guard/All-NBA/former MVP type player.

Albatross contract+being on the wrong side of 30 is a bad combo. No way should any team have to give up any young assets if they are going to receive that combo. You tell OKC that bailing them out of that deal is all theyre going to get, if they demand more, you hang up and walk away.

NYPiston · Post #619 » by **NYPiston** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:44 am

Neptune wrote::D
DetroitPistons wrote:
Bknight4three wrote:.

h.

One of Kennard or Doumbouya will have to be traded in order to get a top 5 point-guard/All-NBA/former MVP type player.

I think you mean a 31 year old, malcontent ball hog who shoots a poor percentage and has 4 years left on his contract for a cool 30-45M.

pistonsbball · Post #620 » by **pistonsbball** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:44 am

Dre, Reggie, Galloway and/or next year's first. Any more than that, walk away.