Thunder Offseason Thread

[Dadouv47]

I really hope with this rebuild we have a culture reset too. There are obviously some things about the OKC culture that players like. However there have been enough leaks over the years that expose some concerns.

That starts with new people in the front office. It's year 12 and Presti is still going after raw athletes. That's never going to change.

We should have a coach/GM like Doc Rivers used to be with the Clippers (a better one though) while keeping Presti to negotiate trades and draft picks.

[Balkman32]

As a result of talks at that workout we find out in about 12 hours that Russ is headed to the Knicks for some insanely stupid offer and everyone wonders how Presti pulled it off. Barrett, DSJ, Knox, 2021 and 2023 Dallas first round picks, 2020, 2022, 2024 and 2026 NYK first round picks, Bullock and Portis.

This cant happen until December 15th. The Knicks have the salaries of Randall, Portis, Gibson, and Payton, that they can’t move since recently signed.

[Pillendreher]

Current Thunder Roster in the Capulator (without Bazley signed):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17389274995d2488359bd40206186329

[Old Man Game]

Speaking of Bazley any opinions after yesterday? His frame looks like the sort that will be able to bulk up considerably as he ages a bit. Could be a really nice 3 and D type SF/PF if he pans out.

[slick_watts]

Current Thunder Roster in the Capulator (without Bazley signed):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17389274995d2488359bd40206186329

if you go down a bit you can sign bazley to a rookie scale contract. and i didn't know you could save configs like this.

about $4.5 million over. getting below that tax line must be an ancillary goal of any westbrook trade or series of trades. would sam presti go into the season above the tax to deal with it later? and do an andre roberson stretch as a worst case scenario? imo it's worth the risk of being so slightly into the tax in order to maximize the return on westbrook but that's easy for me to say.

[Pillendreher]

Current Thunder Roster in the Capulator (without Bazley signed):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17389274995d2488359bd40206186329

if you go down a bit you can sign bazley to a rookie scale contract.

I know but I didn't because I didn't know wether he signed for 120 % or less.

[slick_watts]

Current Thunder Roster in the Capulator (without Bazley signed):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17389274995d2488359bd40206186329

if you go down a bit you can sign bazley to a rookie scale contract.

I know but I didn't because I didn't know wether he signed for 120 % or less.

has to be 120% if he signed already and is playing in summer league, you'd think.

[Old Man Game]

if you go down a bit you can sign bazley to a rookie scale contract.

I know but I didn't because I didn't know wether he signed for 120 % or less.

has to be 120% if he signed already and is playing in summer league, you'd think.

Also Rich Paul is why it has to be the 120%.

[Old Man Game]

Speaking of Rich Paul and the whole "player empowerment era" where players can just sign and then demand a trade a year later and get it, I get the feeling the current generation of superstars is writing I.O.U.s that the next generation will have to foot the bill for. Next lockout (whenever it comes) might be a doozy.

[Dadouv47]

Almost 24 hours without trading for some pick. I'm disappointed.

[ThunderBolt]

Almost 24 hours without trading for some pick. I'm disappointed.

I think Presti wants to get a deal done quickly. I wouldn’t expect this would drag on endlessly.

[ThunderBolt]

Slow day but I saw this on the Miami board...

Read on Twitter

[Dadouv47]

Almost 24 hours without trading for some pick. I'm disappointed.

I think Presti wants to get a deal done quickly. I wouldn’t expect this would drag on endlessly.

Probably but I think it's a very difficult deal to be done. Several teams must be trying to get him with low offers, maybe other teams waking up to see how they can get with him with neutral value and Presti must be trying to make the best destination possible for Westbrook as well.

Anyway we will see. Herro and a pick would be really really good.

[ThunderBolt]

Almost 24 hours without trading for some pick. I'm disappointed.

I think Presti wants to get a deal done quickly. I wouldn’t expect this would drag on endlessly.

Probably but I think it's a very difficult deal to be done. Several teams must be trying to get him with low offers, maybe other teams waking up to see how they can get with him with neutral value and Presti must be trying to make the best destination possible for Westbrook as well.

Anyway we will see. Herro and a pick would be really really good.

I don’t think difficulty is due to lack of interest but the complexity of the salaries and whatever sams priorities are for the the trade.

[thekaoswithin]

Slow day but I saw this on the Miami board...

Read on Twitter

Was his number 0? If not then it's irrelevant bc if the removal was due to a trade there would be multiple numbers being removed

[Old Man Game]

Ira Winderman who is the Miami Sun Sentinel's heat beat reporter said he does find it interesting that Herro hasn't signed his deal yet. Said most other rookies had signed by now and you can't trade a rookie for 30 days once he's signed that deal. I think some on here have expressed similar theories.

[Dadouv47]

Ira Winderman who is the Miami Sun Sentinel's heat beat reporter said he does find it interesting that Herro hasn't signed his deal yet. Said most other rookies had signed by now and you can't trade a rookie for 30 days once he's signed that deal. I think some on here have expressed similar theories.

They may let their options open (which doesn't mean we will get Herro even if I hope so :p)

[thor19]

Ira Winderman who is the Miami Sun Sentinel's heat beat reporter said he does find it interesting that Herro hasn't signed his deal yet. Said most other rookies had signed by now and you can't trade a rookie for 30 days once he's signed that deal. I think some on here have expressed similar theories.

They may let their options open (which doesn't mean we will get Herro even if I hope so :p)

I think they want to keep Herro , if they cant give us draft beacuade we already have them I say give us the player you pick in this draft and thats Herro or find other team that can gives us a combination of atleast a prospect and draft picks if we get dragic , herro and the 2023 unprotected I be happy , this new version of the team they will build need shooting from the first day

[Dadouv47]

Some teams trying to trade for Schroeder!?

[Balkman32]

Current Thunder Roster in the Capulator (without Bazley signed):

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17389274995d2488359bd40206186329

if you go down a bit you can sign bazley to a rookie scale contract. and i didn't know you could save configs like this.

about $4.5 million over. getting below that tax line must be an ancillary goal of any westbrook trade or series of trades. would sam presti go into the season above the tax to deal with it later? and do an andre roberson stretch as a worst case scenario? imo it's worth the risk of being so slightly into the tax in order to maximize the return on westbrook but that's easy for me to say.

I think there is a stretch deadline and that's before the season starts.

Yes you are right the tax has to be dealt with in a Westbrook trade and Miami does not help that either. Using Spotrac and estimating Muscala's salary I have the Thunder a little under $4 million over the tax.

I think if the Thunder stretch Patterson they would dip under the tax. Because if they stretch him right now his salary could spreed over 3 seasons of $1.9 million. But, I doubt that is the rout they decide to take.

Has Presti ever completed a trade that was rumored other than Melo?