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Post#601 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 8, 2019 3:58 pm

DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.
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Post#602 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 9, 2019 12:54 am

Lookin gooooood
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Post#603 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 9, 2019 1:44 am

3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.

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Post#604 » by HerSports85 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 1:48 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Lookin gooooood


He does look good.
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Post#605 » by Da_Mane_Man » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:25 am

I can't wait till DSJ is off the team.
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Post#606 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Jul 9, 2019 4:15 am

Da_Mane_Man wrote:I can't wait till DSJ is off the team.


why? wouldnt you rather him reach his potential?
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Post#607 » by DimesandKnicks » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:06 pm

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Under the watchful eye of Coach Fitz, my dude putting in serious work. He looks exhausted, must be doing like 5hr workouts, AM/PM.


He needs to get rid of that Mudiay hitch in his shot. "One Fluent Motion".
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#608 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:14 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Lookin gooooood


He does look good.


looks MUCH better. if players have to respect his shot, he's a legit problem.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#609 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:15 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.

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he has always referred to chris paul as an idol and mentor
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#610 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:21 pm

moocow007 wrote:It's worth giving Smith a shot. I would still however like to see the Knicks add a veteran PG that Smith might actually listen to (either because that vet has the toughness to force Smith to listen or because Smith respects). If they are big on giving 2 year $10 million contracts, maybe they should give it to Rondo. I can see Rondo being someone that can connect to Smith and get Smith to listen to. Let Rondo impart all that he knows about what it takes to win in the NBA. He's had plenty of experience and has no qualms about telling it like it is. I do think a lot of young players respect him.


does elfrid payton fit this criteria to you? this will be his 6th season.
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Post#611 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:22 pm

chris paul is a bitch so I hope he doesn't learn that from him
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#612 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:36 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Former Advanced NBA scout on DSJ’s shot. Should I trust him or the shooting coaches on our board :lol:
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to be fair, this is an assumption too.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#613 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:47 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.

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he has always referred to chris paul as an idol and mentor


Both from North Carolina, both stayed in state to go to school, both are smaller point guards. Makes sense that CP would be who he looks up to.. Good guy to follow and try to mimic too. CP can be a bit of an irritant on the court but he's one of the smartest players of all-time.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#614 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:48 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:I can't wait till DSJ is off the team.


why? wouldnt you rather him reach his potential?


If DSJ reaches his true ceiling the Knicks will never have to worry about getting free agents again :lol:
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Post#615 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:50 pm

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he has always referred to chris paul as an idol and mentor


Both from North Carolina, both stayed in state to go to school, both are smaller point guards. Makes sense that CP would be who he looks up to.. Good guy to follow and try to mimic too. CP can be a bit of an irritant on the court but he's one of the smartest players of all-time.


i think both CP and DSJ have talents that can't be taught. but DSJ could hopefully learn some good pro tips and tricks. maybe some relevant and useful character stuff rubs off?
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#616 » by Zenzibar » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.

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https://www.basketballworkouttips.com/chris-paul-shooting-form/

DSJ's struggles are basically his mid-range game and Chris Paul is a master at it. Hopefully, CP3 can perform some Yoda type-mind transplant on DSJ.

The King of Mid-Range

Chris Paul may have the best mid-range pull-up in the NBA. He takes a high percentage of his shots from between 10-feet to the 3pt line.

Let’s compare CP3 to two other elite sharpshooter point-guards, Kyrie Irving and Stephen Curry.

% of Shots Made From 10-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 50%
Stephen Curry – 36%
Kyrie Irving – 28%
You can clearly see that Paul easily shoots more pull-ups than both Steph and Kyrie.

Now let’s look at Paul’s shooting percentage compared to Steph from 16-feet to the 3pt line.

% of Shots Made from 16-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 48.7%
Stephen Curry – 39.4%
That’s a big difference!

Chris Paul
Head to Head – Paul and Curry
Chris Paul Shooting Mechanics
Let’s break down Paul’s shooting mechanics and his favorite moves.

Paul is a turn shooter, meaning that he turns his legs when he shoots.

He’s also a dipper when shooting off the pass, meaning that he lowers the ball a bit when catching it before pulling it up.

In addition, he uses the sweep & sway technique (especially when shooting 3s) – his feet move forward and his shoulders sway back. This allows him to get better range and better arc on his shot.

And one more thing Chris does is to hop – he is so quick off the dribble because he dominates with the hop. He hops… and hops… and he’s hard to stop.

I think this is due to his height (5’11”). The smaller the player is, the more he probably needs to hop. And at 5’11”, Paul is a really small guy for the NBA.

But what he lacks in height, he makes up for with his shot. He has made the mid-range pull-up fade-away an impossible shot to block.

And to top it off, he also has a solid floater which enables him to finish over big defenders after he’s done slicing through the defense.

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Post#617 » by CharlesOakley » Tue Jul 9, 2019 4:26 pm

I'm rooting for all our kids but we definitely need someone to break out and become a legit starting caliber point guard. If DSJr. can become an above average shooter it will really open up the game for him. With a good PG, this team is likely to make the playoffs.
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Post#618 » by moocow007 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 4:34 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
moocow007 wrote:It's worth giving Smith a shot. I would still however like to see the Knicks add a veteran PG that Smith might actually listen to (either because that vet has the toughness to force Smith to listen or because Smith respects). If they are big on giving 2 year $10 million contracts, maybe they should give it to Rondo. I can see Rondo being someone that can connect to Smith and get Smith to listen to. Let Rondo impart all that he knows about what it takes to win in the NBA. He's had plenty of experience and has no qualms about telling it like it is. I do think a lot of young players respect him.


does elfrid payton fit this criteria to you? this will be his 6th season.


Not sure. Payton may be in his 6th season but he's been more or less underwhelming and kinda milquetoast-ish. I think Smith needs someone that is a bit more intense that can basically tell him like it is and have him listen. Don't see Payton as that type.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#619 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 9, 2019 5:05 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ worked out with Chris Paul yesterday. Saw it on one of his trainers story on IG.

8-)
Read on Twitter


https://www.basketballworkouttips.com/chris-paul-shooting-form/

DSJ's struggles are basically his mid-range game and Chris Paul is a master at it. Hopefully, CP3 can perform some Yoda type-mind transplant on DSJ.

The King of Mid-Range

Chris Paul may have the best mid-range pull-up in the NBA. He takes a high percentage of his shots from between 10-feet to the 3pt line.

Let’s compare CP3 to two other elite sharpshooter point-guards, Kyrie Irving and Stephen Curry.

% of Shots Made From 10-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 50%
Stephen Curry – 36%
Kyrie Irving – 28%
You can clearly see that Paul easily shoots more pull-ups than both Steph and Kyrie.

Now let’s look at Paul’s shooting percentage compared to Steph from 16-feet to the 3pt line.

% of Shots Made from 16-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 48.7%
Stephen Curry – 39.4%
That’s a big difference!

Chris Paul
Head to Head – Paul and Curry
Chris Paul Shooting Mechanics
Let’s break down Paul’s shooting mechanics and his favorite moves.

Paul is a turn shooter, meaning that he turns his legs when he shoots.

He’s also a dipper when shooting off the pass, meaning that he lowers the ball a bit when catching it before pulling it up.

In addition, he uses the sweep & sway technique (especially when shooting 3s) – his feet move forward and his shoulders sway back. This allows him to get better range and better arc on his shot.

And one more thing Chris does is to hop – he is so quick off the dribble because he dominates with the hop. He hops… and hops… and he’s hard to stop.

I think this is due to his height (5’11”). The smaller the player is, the more he probably needs to hop. And at 5’11”, Paul is a really small guy for the NBA.

But what he lacks in height, he makes up for with his shot. He has made the mid-range pull-up fade-away an impossible shot to block.

And to top it off, he also has a solid floater which enables him to finish over big defenders after he’s done slicing through the defense.



analytics people hate it, but it's free candy if you're a good shooter. teams hardly even defend the midrange anymore. i get the risk/return element. i also get trying to make that same shot a three if you can. but the best shot is an open one. if the defense is handing you the 15-footer, you'd be well served to take the basket.

i wouldn't run a play for it necessarily. but in your reading and reacting you might see an open spot on the floor from the elbow. eat up.
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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#620 » by Zenzibar » Tue Jul 9, 2019 5:52 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote: 8-)
Read on Twitter


https://www.basketballworkouttips.com/chris-paul-shooting-form/

DSJ's struggles are basically his mid-range game and Chris Paul is a master at it. Hopefully, CP3 can perform some Yoda type-mind transplant on DSJ.

The King of Mid-Range

Chris Paul may have the best mid-range pull-up in the NBA. He takes a high percentage of his shots from between 10-feet to the 3pt line.

Let’s compare CP3 to two other elite sharpshooter point-guards, Kyrie Irving and Stephen Curry.

% of Shots Made From 10-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 50%
Stephen Curry – 36%
Kyrie Irving – 28%
You can clearly see that Paul easily shoots more pull-ups than both Steph and Kyrie.

Now let’s look at Paul’s shooting percentage compared to Steph from 16-feet to the 3pt line.

% of Shots Made from 16-feet to the 3pt Line:
Chris Paul – 48.7%
Stephen Curry – 39.4%
That’s a big difference!

Chris Paul
Head to Head – Paul and Curry
Chris Paul Shooting Mechanics
Let’s break down Paul’s shooting mechanics and his favorite moves.

Paul is a turn shooter, meaning that he turns his legs when he shoots.

He’s also a dipper when shooting off the pass, meaning that he lowers the ball a bit when catching it before pulling it up.

In addition, he uses the sweep & sway technique (especially when shooting 3s) – his feet move forward and his shoulders sway back. This allows him to get better range and better arc on his shot.

And one more thing Chris does is to hop – he is so quick off the dribble because he dominates with the hop. He hops… and hops… and he’s hard to stop.

I think this is due to his height (5’11”). The smaller the player is, the more he probably needs to hop. And at 5’11”, Paul is a really small guy for the NBA.

But what he lacks in height, he makes up for with his shot. He has made the mid-range pull-up fade-away an impossible shot to block.

And to top it off, he also has a solid floater which enables him to finish over big defenders after he’s done slicing through the defense.



analytics people hate it, but it's free candy if you're a good shooter. teams hardly even defend the midrange anymore. i get the risk/return element. i also get trying to make that same shot a three if you can. but the best shot is an open one. if the defense is handing you the 15-footer, you'd be well served to take the basket.

i wouldn't run a play for it necessarily. but in your reading and reacting you might see an open spot on the floor from the elbow. eat up.


Exactly.
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