Thunder Offseason Thread

Post #3021 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:42 pm

oreojenkins wrote:I have Berry Trammel fatigue.

Well unless you pay you can no longer get free access to his writing.

Post #3022 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:42 pm

If Presti reads RealGM right now he could a find a way too get Herro lol

But at this point I will be ''happy'' with Winslow

Post #3023 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:44 pm

thor19 wrote:Its Winslow any good or we dont get him either, Wedtbrook should have other destination , I prefer frank, and mitchell robinson from knicks, okogie from minnesota , kennard from piston even issac and fultz

That's the guy I wanted but prefer Russ to go to Miami anyway.

oreojenkins · Post #3024 » by **oreojenkins** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:47 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
oreojenkins wrote:I have Berry Trammel fatigue.

Well unless you pay you can no longer get free access to his writing.

Can't imagine paying for Daily Oklahoman content. His shtick of creating situations with Westbrook to get his name in the news was enough for me. Heard him botch SGA's name at least five times already on local radio. It's kind of embarrassing the paper lets him cover an NBA team. It's not hard to do basic research.

Pillendreher · Post #3025 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:14 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:FWIW, Tramel said one time that the impression he got was that there was some "westbrook fatigue" among those in the front office.

I have Front Office fatigue.

oreojenkins · Post #3026 » by **oreojenkins** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:52 pm

Read on Twitter

Looks like things might be getting settled one way or the other.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #3027 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:57 pm

It is going to end up being like Wiggins/Love was. Herro will sign so his salary can count as matching and a trade will be completed 30 days after he signs.

Post #3028 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:58 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:It is going to end up being like Wiggins/Love was. Herro will sign so his salary can count as matching and a trade will be completed 30 days after he signs.

Can they go ahead and agree in principle to it now?

oreojenkins · Post #3029 » by **oreojenkins** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:00 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:It is going to end up being like Wiggins/Love was. Herro will sign so his salary can count as matching and a trade will be completed 30 days after he signs.

Hope so, wasn't implying we can't get him. Just they were holding off for a reason, and now it's time.

Though not sure they would be tweeting outs pictures of him signing in Heat garb if they planned on immediately trading him.

Spacely · Post #3030 » by **Spacely** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:03 pm

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Kizz Fastfists · Post #3031 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:05 pm

It can be agreed to. They could agree to a deal with the Knicks that wouldn't be executed until Dec 15th. I don't believe it can be announced. Although, if I recall the Wiggins/Love trade was rumored for weeks before they could announce/execute it.

Post #3032 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:05 pm

get under the luxury tax
clear future salary
get a useful player or prospect

pick two

Post #3033 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 pm

Stop dreaming guys. Miami wouldn't do that right now with their 13th pick if he was still involved in Westbrook trade talks.

My guess is that the deal between OKC and Miami is almost done and working or last details or just waiting to announce it.

...Or Pat Riley decided to show some strength by signing Herro but it's not like they were willing to trade him before.

Post #3034 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:11 pm

slick_watts wrote:get under the luxury tax
clear future salary
get a useful player or prospect

pick two

getting under the luxury tax isn't an issue. We can get rid of Gallo easily.

Post #3035 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:16 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:get under the luxury tax
clear future salary
get a useful player or prospect

pick two

getting under the luxury tax isn't an issue. We can get rid of Gallo easily.

i disagree with your assessment. i think getting under the tax with a westbrook deal is one of the primary motivators, that and clearing as much of his future salary as possible. getting a useful player or prospects is 3rd priority. brian windhorst reported earlier saying they want to get out of the tax with a deal, which is why a third team may be involved, and that could be the hold-up.

Old Man Game · Post #3036 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:29 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Stop dreaming guys. Miami wouldn't do that right now with their 13th pick if he was still involved in Westbrook trade talks.

My guess is that the deal between OKC and Miami is almost done and working or last details or just waiting to announce it.

...Or Pat Riley decided to show some strength by signing Herro but it's not like they were willing to trade him before.

I could be wrong here but I don't get the feeling that what the social media/PR side of an organization does has any sway whatsoever on talks like this. I think the reporting from the Miami herald that said they weren't willing to part with him was persuasive however.

Post #3037 » by **retrobro90** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:30 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:get under the luxury tax
clear future salary
get a useful player or prospect

pick two

getting under the luxury tax isn't an issue. We can get rid of Gallo easily.

i disagree with your assessment. i think getting under the tax with a westbrook deal is one of the primary motivators, that and clearing as much of his future salary as possible. getting a useful player or prospects is 3rd priority. brian windhorst reported earlier saying they want to get out of the tax with a deal, which is why a third team may be involved, and that could be the hold-up.

We're like less than 4mil over right now. Getting under the tax between now and the end of the season is not hard and not required in a Westbrook deal.

Old Man Game · Post #3038 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:31 pm

More and more I find myself coming around to the idea of just considering Winslow the 'win' in this trade if it means we can offload Westbrook, get under the tax and move on.

oreojenkins · Post #3039 » by **oreojenkins** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 pm

Yep. Piecing it all together seems like the trade will be:

OKC: Winslow, Dragic
MIA: Westbrook
DAL: Olynyk (or Cleveland here with JR going to Miami)

Maybe we can get their last 1st out of it.

Post #3040 » by **retrobro90** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:36 pm

It feels like torture knowing the silence on the subject could potentially go on all summer.