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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy Eastbrook and the Kids? 

Post#261 » by Wiltside » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:16 pm

Please keep Justise.
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy Eastbrook and the Kids? 

Post#262 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:19 pm

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Lilseb93 wrote:Mr Clutch has been pretty accurate and professional so that's why I follow him and share his Tweets on here even if he isn't a verified major journalist.


He is not a journalist, that is a burner account

Yeah. That one specifically comes off as a MeatBeat burner account.
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Post#263 » by Spacely » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:20 pm

Final roster going off of Metta’s trade: (probably the most logical one)

PG: Russell Westbrook/Kendrick Nunn
SG: Tyler Herro/Dion Waiters (Waiters would be an awesome spark off the bench)
SF: Jimmy Butler/DJJ/Duncan Robinson
PF: Kelly Olynyk/KZ Okpala/Patrick Patterson/UD
C: Bam Adebayo/Meyers Leonard


our bench has shooting but not much veteran presence, will that really be okay? Who could we pick up for the vet min?
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy Eastbrook and the Kids? 

Post#264 » by CWebb2491 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:20 pm

Wiltside wrote:Please keep Justise.

Imagine Justise, Jimmy, Bam, DJJR on defense :D
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Post#265 » by AirP. » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 pm

If this is legit, this is basically Miami competing with themselves. Don't give up any of the good young players!

OKC is trying to do right with Westbrook, just getting rid of his contract is a win for them so accommodating a player that has done so much for the franchise is fine.
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Post#266 » by CWebb2491 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:25 pm

AirP. wrote:If this is legit, this is basically Miami competing with themselves. Don't give up any of the good young players!
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What does Houston POSSIBLY have to offer? That is a Serious question. OKC wants cap relief or assetts, I don't think they NEED more draft picks after their PG Haul so cap relief is most likely their priority. Like Riles said about Minny last year, they and Houston need to get their house in order. CP3 does not like playing with Harden, Westbrook and Harden would be a ticking time bomb. But Houston wants everyone like always. But they also wanted Jimmy :wink:
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Post#267 » by MartyCONLONNN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:27 pm

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Wiltside wrote:Please keep Justise.

Imagine Justise, Jimmy, Bam, DJJR on defense :D


the funny part is this is already our reality with this roster. It's why I feel indifferent about the Westbrook addition. We are going to have a VERY fun team to root for regardless. If one of Bam or Winslow takes a leap then we are a potential 4-6 seed. If Herro has an all rookie season? What if DJJ solidifies himself into a premier 3&D player? What's behind the KZ hype? So many things to look forward to without the shooting guard clutter and Hassan playing time issues of last season.
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Post#268 » by AirP. » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:28 pm

CWebb2491 wrote:What does Houston POSSIBLY have to offer? That is a Serious question. OKC wants cap relief or assetts, I don't think they NEED more draft picks after their PG Haul so cap relief is most likely their priority. Like Riles said about Minny last year, they and Houston need to get their house in order. CP3 does not like playing with Harden, Westbrook and Harden would be a ticking time bomb. But Houston wants everyone like always. But they also wanted Jimmy :wink:


Westbrook is probably an upgrade for CP3, Westbrook as PG, Harden as SG and all those shooters around Westbrook for the first time in his career. For those that remember back aways, CP3 use to play in Oklahoma City when New Orleans had been displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, so it would be somewhat of a coming home situation and CP3 is on a shorter huge contract. Maybe they could get some of the band back together, T.Chandler, JR Smith, maybe get David West out of retirement...
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Re: 2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy Eastbrook and the Kids? 

Post#269 » by Lilseb93 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:Mr Clutch has been pretty accurate and professional so that's why I follow him and share his Tweets on here even if he isn't a verified major journalist.


He is not a journalist, that is a burner account


I don't view him as a journalist. I was just saying he isn't a major national writer like WOJ/Shams.
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Post#270 » by CWebb2491 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:34 pm

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CWebb2491 wrote:What does Houston POSSIBLY have to offer? That is a Serious question. OKC wants cap relief or assetts, I don't think they NEED more draft picks after their PG Haul so cap relief is most likely their priority. Like Riles said about Minny last year, they and Houston need to get their house in order. CP3 does not like playing with Harden, Westbrook and Harden would be a ticking time bomb. But Houston wants everyone like always. But they also wanted Jimmy :wink:


Westbrook is probably an upgrade for CP3, Westbrook as PG, Harden as SG and all those shooters around Westbrook for the first time in his career. For those that remember back aways, CP3 use to play in Oklahoma City when New Orleans had been displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, so it would be somewhat of a coming home situation and CP3 is on a shorter huge contract.
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OKC is rebuilding, having a still talented point guard who undoubtedly makes the team better while being to old to be a part of the future isn't a good deal for OKC. A big expiring in Dragic and an almost expiring in Johnson, Waiters is a rebuilding move.
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Post#271 » by MiamiSun » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 pm

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CWebb2491 wrote:What does Houston POSSIBLY have to offer? That is a Serious question. OKC wants cap relief or assetts, I don't think they NEED more draft picks after their PG Haul so cap relief is most likely their priority. Like Riles said about Minny last year, they and Houston need to get their house in order. CP3 does not like playing with Harden, Westbrook and Harden would be a ticking time bomb. But Houston wants everyone like always. But they also wanted Jimmy :wink:


Westbrook is probably an upgrade for CP3, Westbrook as PG, Harden as SG and all those shooters around Westbrook for the first time in his career. For those that remember back aways, CP3 use to play in Oklahoma City when New Orleans had been displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, so it would be somewhat of a coming home situation and CP3 is on a shorter huge contract.
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OKC is rebuilding, having a still talented point guard who undoubtedly makes the team better while being to old to be a part of the future isn't a good deal for OKC. A big expiring in Dragic and an almost expiring in Johnson, Waiters is a rebuilding move.


A non guarantee contract in JR Smith, who they can cut as well as an expiring at the end of this year in Tragic gets them out of salary cap hell fast. This is a no brainer for OKC, I think Riley knows it but has to wait out the "Lets see if we can get more out of Miami" thinking that they may have.
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Post#272 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:38 pm

I've heard Houston is a possibility, Harden and Russ were teammates before and I don't believe there's bad blood between them like there is with Durant/Westbrook. But it's way more messy if Houston wanted to a deal... its like fat contract for fat contract if they were swapping CP3 for Westbrook. Idk how they could make sense of it, not familiar with Houston's players or their picks.
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Post#273 » by AirP. » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:42 pm

CWebb2491 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
CWebb2491 wrote:What does Houston POSSIBLY have to offer? That is a Serious question. OKC wants cap relief or assetts, I don't think they NEED more draft picks after their PG Haul so cap relief is most likely their priority. Like Riles said about Minny last year, they and Houston need to get their house in order. CP3 does not like playing with Harden, Westbrook and Harden would be a ticking time bomb. But Houston wants everyone like always. But they also wanted Jimmy :wink:


Westbrook is probably an upgrade for CP3, Westbrook as PG, Harden as SG and all those shooters around Westbrook for the first time in his career. For those that remember back aways, CP3 use to play in Oklahoma City when New Orleans had been displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, so it would be somewhat of a coming home situation and CP3 is on a shorter huge contract.
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OKC is rebuilding, having a still talented point guard who undoubtedly makes the team better while being to old to be a part of the future isn't a good deal for OKC. A big expiring in Dragic and an almost expiring in Johnson, Waiters is a rebuilding move.

CP3 is who you'd want a young talented PG to learn from, Westbrook you don't want him teaching anyone anything. Plus I believe in Sam Presti and his ability to make good trades.
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Post#274 » by AirP. » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:45 pm

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Westbrook is probably an upgrade for CP3, Westbrook as PG, Harden as SG and all those shooters around Westbrook for the first time in his career. For those that remember back aways, CP3 use to play in Oklahoma City when New Orleans had been displaced because of Hurricane Katrina, so it would be somewhat of a coming home situation and CP3 is on a shorter huge contract.
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OKC is rebuilding, having a still talented point guard who undoubtedly makes the team better while being to old to be a part of the future isn't a good deal for OKC. A big expiring in Dragic and an almost expiring in Johnson, Waiters is a rebuilding move.


A non guarantee contract in JR Smith, who they can cut as well as an expiring at the end of this year in Tragic gets them out of salary cap hell fast. This is a no brainer for OKC, I think Riley knows it but has to wait out the "Lets see if we can get more out of Miami" thinking that they may have.

I believe the J.Grant trade gets them to being ~4 million over which should be close enough to make some smaller moves during the year to get out of the luxury tax. With all the draft assets they have, they should have no problem in getting out of the tax.
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Post#275 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:47 pm

AirP. wrote:If this is legit, this is basically Miami competing with themselves. Don't give up any of the good young players!

OKC is trying to do right with Westbrook, just getting rid of his contract is a win for them so accommodating a player that has done so much for the franchise is fine.
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Post#278 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:52 pm

DefenseWins wrote:I've heard Houston is a possibility, Harden and Russ were teammates before and I don't believe there's bad blood between them like there is with Durant/Westbrook. But it's way more messy if Houston wanted to a deal... its like fat contract for fat contract if they were swapping CP3 for Westbrook. Idk how they could make sense of it, not familiar with Houston's players or their picks.


Westbrook + Harden is not a good fit but I could see Houston willing to trade CP3+picks for Westbrook. But it has to be a lot of assets to motivate Presti.

Won't be ideal for both teams since no one want CP3 contract and I'm not sure how Westbrook would fit in Houston (both Westbrook and Harden need the ball in their hands way too much)
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