Thunder Offseason Thread

[Old Man Game]

I feel like Russ SHOULD be interested in Detroit as well but for whatever reason (weather I presume) he isn't. Seems like he and Blake (with Drumond) would make a much more complimentary pairing than he and Butler. But from all the reporting he's set on Miami. *sigh*

[ThunderBolt]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

[slick_watts]

Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

one of their beat reporters said their contact with a source indicates no interest whatsoever. i honestly think that miami is the only team with any serious interest.

I find this very interesting. How is Detroit going to get better. They already played their hand getting Blake.

I wonder if some teams would value Schroder more? He should be dealt as well. They need to hand the keys to Gilgeous-Alexander.

there's a cost to everything and a team like detroit has to ask themselves whether or not taking on westbrook's $170 million is worth the upgrade to them. it might be worth it to miami since they have 2020-21 salary they could get off the books in a trade and likely suspect westbrook could attract a 3rd star.

detroit only has expirings that would be gone after this year anyway probably less incentive in that market to play the 2 stars = 3 stars game this late in summer without any assurances. imo detroit could have been far more interested if this all went down in late june.

[slick_watts]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

if his 3pt shooting holds up he'll be easily worth the 3/39 he has left. third year is a team option so that's ideal. he has been a steady riser in apm metrics (top 50 in rpm last season).

i'm a fan.

[ThunderBolt]

I feel like Russ SHOULD be interested in Detroit as well but for whatever reason (weather I presume) he isn't. Seems like he and Blake (with Drumond) would make a much for natural pairing than he and Butler. But from all the reporting he's set on Miami. *sigh*

I think a phone call from Blake might help.

[Old Man Game]

If you start playing around with the trade machine, with the fact in mind that Miami needs to send out more salary than they take in because of the hard cap in place following the Butler sign and trade, you start to get a sense why this deal hasn't happened yet. Obviously we want to cut salary also so that means a third team is almost required.

[Balkman32]

one of their beat reporters said their contact with a source indicates no interest whatsoever. i honestly think that miami is the only team with any serious interest.

I find this very interesting. How is Detroit going to get better. They already played their hand getting Blake.

I wonder if some teams would value Schroder more? He should be dealt as well. They need to hand the keys to Gilgeous-Alexander.

there's a cost to everything and a team like detroit has to ask themselves whether or not taking on westbrook's $170 million is worth the upgrade to them. it might be worth it to miami since they have 2020-21 salary they could get off the books in a trade and likely suspect westbrook could attract a 3rd star.

detroit only has expirings that would be gone after this year anyway probably less incentive in that market to play the 2 stars = 3 stars game this late in summer without any assurances. imo detroit could have been far more interested if this all went down in late june.

What changed between late June and now? I feel like Russ's personality fits Detroit. We take Reggie Jackson and Galloway off of your hands, and I know they are expiring but it would only give Detroit $15 million in cap space in a bad free agent year. Detroit knows they have to trade or draft for talent.

the one thing to note on the Pistons is that their GM is an interim status right now just like the Zards.

[Balkman32]

If you start playing around with the trade machine, with the fact in mind that Miami needs to send out more salary than they take in because of the hard cap in place following the Butler sign and trade, you start to get a sense why this deal hasn't happened yet. Obviously we want to cut salary also so that means a third team is almost required.

So they can't exceed $138 and they can't take back more money in a trade? Yes. The Thunder can't take on additional money they need to cut. So a 3rd team would be needed to facilitate this deal.

[Kobewade11]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

[Balkman32]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

NO THANKS!

[thor19]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

NO THANKS!

Thats the reason we need herro, we can slide ferguson to the sf and gallo at the 4 with steven adams
We take dragic and james johnson with herro they can keep bam, olynyk , leonard ,winslow and waiters , you have two big man that can shoot with westbrook and jimmy buckets

Okc
SGA , Dragic, Schroder
Herro , Ferguson , diallo
Roberson , bazley
Gallo, james johnson , muscala
Adams, Noel

[ThunderBolt]

A young guy that I really like is Troy Brown Jr from the wizards. He’s not a great athlete but is a very high IQ player. After drafting Hachimura who plays the same position, I would be be interested in seeing if the wizards are willing to move him.

[Rapaz]

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

NO THANKS!

Thats the reason we need herro, we can slide ferguson to the sf and gallo at the 4 with steven adams
We take dragic and james johnson with herro they can keep bam, olynyk , leonard ,winslow and waiters , you have two big man that can shoot with westbrook and jimmy buckets

Okc
SGA , Dragic, Schroder
Herro , Ferguson , diallo
Roberson , bazley
Gallo, james johnson , muscala
Adams, Noel

I can't think Miami would include Herro in this deal. They'd likely hold out and walk. Winslow is a more likely target.

[Dadouv47]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

Not sure we will get Winslow. He's a good player but he's not the asset I wanted from OKC because he will an UFA when a bit too soon for a rebuilding team like us.

Heard Nunn was playing relatively well in the Summer league. Not a big asset but would take him as well if we can.

[Dadouv47]

Do we know anything about Detroit’s level of interest? Doing right by Russ is all well and good but if we can’t pass up a significantly better offer if it’s there, in my opinion.

one of their beat reporters said their contact with a source indicates no interest whatsoever. i honestly think that miami is the only team with any serious interest.

I find this very interesting. How is Detroit going to get better. They already played their hand getting Blake.

I wonder if some teams would value Schroder more? He should be dealt as well. They need to hand the keys to Gilgeous-Alexander.

Don't know how we could get some positive trade value for Schroeder (I think best case scenario would be to take an expiring and a bad young player that is struggling and we could still try to develop)

[thor19]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

Not sure we will get Winslow. He's a good player but he's not the asset I wanted from OKC because he will an UFA when a bit too soon for a rebuilding team like us.

Heard Nunn was playing relatively well in the Summer league. Not a big asset but would take him as well if we can.

If we can use Winslow as a point foward at least we have passing and ball movement more with SGAin the pg spot and Winslow at the 3 with ferguson at the sg and gallo at the 4

[ThunderBolt]

I liked this trade from the T&T board.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1872036

[Old Man Game]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

Would rather just keep Russ than that package to be honest.

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[mr570]

It sounds like if the Miami deal happens we likely get Winslow. Anyone know much about him? Is he a potential long term piece? I read he showed improvement when he quit playing the 3 and played point. That doesn’t sound like an ideal fit with shai.

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

Would rather just keep Russ than that package to be honest.

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Miami fans simultaneously want Russ and think his trade value is not worth a single good piece in return.

[Dadouv47]

you're getting Dragic, Waiters, and James Johnson

Would rather just keep Russ than that package to be honest.

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Miami fans simultaneously want Russ and think his trade value is not worth a single good piece in return.

well most of them were ok to get Winslow (not Herro) but now they want him for free. Can't blame them since they are in a good position.