2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

[HEATVols865]

Other than Bam, Herro and Winslow are so dispensable......
We have at best, Voshon Lenard and Sasha Danilovic and y’all act like they are Wade and LeBron

You aren't allowed any more opinions after declaring Ramona Shelburne as attractive.

BBW hater I see...once you go plump you never turn back.

[Spacely]

I understand those who don't know want Westbrook to Miami. Could make a case for going after him or not. Both have arguments.
But this forum was on fire last two days by the idea of Westbrook going to Miami but now you guys don't want to trade Winslow (by far your worst asset) to get him. A bit weird...

How is Winslow the worst asset? Getting Winslow would be a deal for y’all lol. A SF who can run point, defend and shoot the 3?

[gom]

I understand those who don't know want Westbrook to Miami. Could make a case for going after him or not. Both have arguments.
But this forum was on fire last two days by the idea of Westbrook going to Miami but now you guys don't want to trade Winslow (by far your worst asset) to get him. A bit weird...

Worst asset is hyperbole. Right now Winslow is the best all around basketball player of the 3, and contrary to the popular opinion it's not even close.

Especially once he moved to point. One reason I prefer to move Dragic is to not have question marks at positions. I'd put Winslow/Nunn at point guard (maybe Herro gets some minutes there).

[Dadouv47]

I understand those who don't know want Westbrook to Miami. Could make a case for going after him or not. Both have arguments.
But this forum was on fire last two days by the idea of Westbrook going to Miami but now you guys don't want to trade Winslow (by far your worst asset) to get him. A bit weird...

Worst asset is hyperbole. Right now Winslow is the best all around basketball player of the 3, and contrary to the popular opinion it's not even close.

thought Herro/Bam were considered better assets by a wild margin (at least from what I read here)

[HEATVols865]

I understand those who don't know want Westbrook to Miami. Could make a case for going after him or not. Both have arguments.
But this forum was on fire last two days by the idea of Westbrook going to Miami but now you guys don't want to trade Winslow (by far your worst asset) to get him. A bit weird...

Worst asset is hyperbole. Right now Winslow is the best all around basketball player of the 3, and contrary to the popular opinion it's not even close.

Bam is better.
Herro...no way

thought Herro/Bam were considered better assets by a wild margin (at least from what I read here)

[Bourne85]

Pass. 2021 is where it’s at. Do anything and everything to assure you have major cap space then. Going all in on Westbrook is simply another mistake. We have assets. Jimmy being one of them. Bam will have more value as well. Justice a full year of Pg duties might inflate his stock some more. Herro could be something. This year is about positioning ourselves for 2021. All those guys can be flipped for a superstar and we can sign another superstar outright with cap space. Then we are onto something.

[Maroko]

But CP3 doesn't need to play 82 or 70 games. He fits much more with Butler but also with the rest of the team specially with Bam
. Lob city will be back.
Just look how CP3 played against the GSW, he was not the reason they lost.
His mentality matchs not just Jimmy but also the heat culture. Just look how he was checking Harden on timeouts.
When Harden was out last year, he was the one to make them win. I still think it was one of the reason Harden lost the Mvp trophy because people were assuming without Harden, the rockets were trash but CP3 proves them wrong.
As Mos said, in 2 years we can have a debate about it but not now.
Ans also his game fits perfectly the playoffs game, just look his FT vs Westbrick.

If you are not convinced, take time to watch again the series against Portland for Westbrook and CP3 vs the Warriors the best team

Yes its a risk as he could be injuried sooner or later but I will take the risk

[Daffy]

Daffy: just open the article in a private tab

Thanks

[gom]

But CP3 doesn't need to play 82 or 70 games. He fits much more with Butler but also with the rest of the team specially with Bam
. Lob city will be back.
Just look how CP3 played against the GSW, he was not the reason they lost.
His mentality matchs not just Jimmy but also the heat culture. Just look how he was checking Harden on timeouts.
When Harden was out last year, he was the one to make them win. I still think it was one of the reason Harden lost the Mvp trophy because people were assuming without Harden, the rockets were trash but CP3 proves them wrong.
As Mos said, in 2 years we can have a debate about it but not now.
Ans also his game fits perfectly the playoffs game, just look his FT vs Westbrick.

Yes its a risk as he could be injuried sooner or later but I will take the risk

I'm a huge fan of Chris Paul. I see all the same problems with injuries and the huge contract as I do with Westbrook, but my gut tells me Chris Paul + Butler and the rest of our team (whatever that is) can get us to the ECF, and I don't think Russ can. No logic in it though. Just emotions.

I also believe Houston would pay us off with picks to take him out of town.

[Spacely]

Oh my god y’all want CP3???

[greg4012]

If we're talking Chris Paul, I'd much rather do nothing and ride to 2021.

[Dadouv47]

Well looks like we are going to work for a 3 team deal sending Russ to Houston and CP3 to Miami

[Kobewade11]

thought Herro/Bam were considered better assets by a wild margin (at least from what I read here)

A lot of what you're hearing about better assets is "potential". Right now Bam is a high energy big with good feet and dunking ability. Can he prove to space the floor? I dont know, he's attempted 22 3's in two years and made three of them. Can he prove the ability to anchor the paint defensively, again, I dont know. I'm just telling you right now if you want to order them in terms of who has the most diverse portfolio of NBA skills its Winslow and then Herro/Bam is arguably a toss up it just depends on what you value more shooting or size. If you want to rank by who you think has most potential that could be a different order.

[Daffy]

But CP3 doesn't need to play 82 or 70 games. He fits much more with Butler but also with the rest of the team specially with Bam
. Lob city will be back.
Just look how CP3 played against the GSW, he was not the reason they lost.
His mentality matchs not just Jimmy but also the heat culture. Just look how he was checking Harden on timeouts.
When Harden was out last year, he was the one to make them win. I still think it was one of the reason Harden lost the Mvp trophy because people were assuming without Harden, the rockets were trash but CP3 proves them wrong.
As Mos said, in 2 years we can have a debate about it but not now.
Ans also his game fits perfectly the playoffs game, just look his FT vs Westbrick.

If you are not convinced, take time to watch again the series against Portland for Westbrook and CP3 vs the Warriors the best team

Yes its a risk as he could be injuried sooner or later but I will take the risk

He was 1 of the reasons they lost. Didn't show up on offense on was timid.

CP3 is a shell of himself.

[Maroko]

But CP3 doesn't need to play 82 or 70 games. He fits much more with Butler but also with the rest of the team specially with Bam
. Lob city will be back.
Just look how CP3 played against the GSW, he was not the reason they lost.
His mentality matchs not just Jimmy but also the heat culture. Just look how he was checking Harden on timeouts.
When Harden was out last year, he was the one to make them win. I still think it was one of the reason Harden lost the Mvp trophy because people were assuming without Harden, the rockets were trash but CP3 proves them wrong.
As Mos said, in 2 years we can have a debate about it but not now.
Ans also his game fits perfectly the playoffs game, just look his FT vs Westbrick.

If you are not convinced, take time to watch again the series against Portland for Westbrook and CP3 vs the Warriors the best team

Yes its a risk as he could be injuried sooner or later but I will take the risk

He was 1 of the reasons they lost. Didn't show up on offense on was timid.

CP3 is a shell of himself.

Harden shocked not CP3, he was the one disappearing

[TheDon_5]

If we got CP3 I’d be so mad. He’s done, he isn’t even a shadow of himself.

How we going to Westbrook being close to talking and accepting CP3? Damn

[Maroko]

No I said if we are going to make a trade, it's better to take CP3 over Westbrook the 3 first round exist or do nothing.

If you want fun in the regular season, you take Westbrick. If you want to go deep in the playoffs you take CP3. It's simple

[gom]

No I said if we are going to make a trade, it's better to take CP3 over Westbrook the 3 first round exist or do nothing.

If you want fun in the regular season, you take Westbrick. If you want to go deep in the playoffs you take CP3. It's simple

Dragic + James Johnson + Winslow for Chris Paul + PJ Tucker and two protected firsts. Winslow is from Houston, by the way.

[MiamiLoyal926]

Other than Bam, Herro and Winslow are so dispensable......
We have at best, Voshon Lenard and Sasha Danilovic and y’all act like they are Wade and LeBron

We are acting like Westbrook is Wade or Lebron, which he is not. We cannot deplete the team for a guy that cannot carry us in the playoffs without quality players around him. We need to keep those quality players.

So whats your plan for the next 4 years of Butler?

Did you expect Westbrook to be available before 5 days ago? Come on... two weeks ago we didn’t even think Butler to Miami was realistic.

The plan for the next 4 years is flexibility and enough assets to make multiple deals and still have depth... not blow our load on one guy and barely have a team worthy of the second round.

The plan is get Westbrook with a single sweetener and fillers, then develop the other young guys in hopes they become our next star or at least gain enough value to get us another star in a trade with fillers, thus netting us 3 stars and a quality supporting cast still around.

Maybe DJJr be the sweetener now, and one of Herro, Winslow, and Bam be the sweetener in the next deal, still leaving us at least two of them when we have three stars on board. It’s pie in the sky to hope for 3 stars, but the more assets we blow now the less we have later.

[greg4012]

What is happening right now???