Thunder Offseason Thread

NaturalThunder · Post #3281 » by **NaturalThunder** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:00 am

**** me.

Why trade for Chris Paul? Trade his ass. We'll win too many games for any of this to mean anything. I don't care about the number of 1st round draft picks, waive CP3 now or this is pointless.

Russ doesn't even really make the Rockets that much better than CP3 (if at all).

NaturalThunder · Post #3282 » by **NaturalThunder** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:04 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:I'm not sure Presti isn't thinking about holding CP3 this season. Just imagine if OKC gets to the 2nd round next year behind CP3 and Gallinari while Houston misses the playoffs. How much can you get for CP3 next off-season? This trade adds a massive complication to my thinking. On the one hand, keeping CP3 gives you a strong chance of making the playoffs and giving up your pick to Philly and that is not ideal in a rebuild. However, you still have Denver's first and if CP3 rebounds his perceived value you have a huge asset to move that could yield a top 10 pick in the draft and more.

In what world, and under what circumstances is CP3 possibly landing you a top 10 pick?

Kizz Fastfists · Post #3283 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:09 am

NaturalThunder wrote:In what world, and under what circumstances is CP3 possibly landing you a top 10 pick?

CP3's value is only down because he was hurt last year. If he is healthy his production will speak for itself. A team that thinks they are one PG from being a contender, but had injury issues could be stupid enough to give a top 10 pick for CP3, especially if they have a stash of assets. NOLA would be a prime candidate with their collection of players that tend to get hurt and their foolish belief that they are a lock to be a playoff team with their current roster.

thor19 · Post #3284 » by **thor19** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:23 am

I think presti want two of the 3 young players miami had, and trading westbrook for only one prospect look bad but with cp3 things change we can just get winslow with james johnson and dragic or waiters and the trade will look better , i say give miami two picks and they include herro with that package and then at the deadline trade dragic

wco81 · Post #3285 » by **wco81** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:31 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:In what world, and under what circumstances is CP3 possibly landing you a top 10 pick?

CP3's value is only down because he was hurt last year. If he is healthy his production will speak for itself. A team that thinks they are one PG from being a contender, but had injury issues could be stupid enough to give a top 10 pick for CP3, especially if they have a stash of assets. NOLA would be a prime candidate with their collection of players that tend to get hurt and their foolish belief that they are a lock to be a playoff team with their current roster.

He’s going on 34 with $120 million due in the next 3 years.

Post #3286 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:34 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:In what world, and under what circumstances is CP3 possibly landing you a top 10 pick?

CP3's value is only down because he was hurt last year. If he is healthy his production will speak for itself. A team that thinks they are one PG from being a contender, but had injury issues could be stupid enough to give a top 10 pick for CP3, especially if they have a stash of assets. NOLA would be a prime candidate with their collection of players that tend to get hurt and their foolish belief that they are a lock to be a playoff team with their current roster.

No bottom 10 team is one broke down and old CP3 away from becoming a contender

CP3 also wasn't just hurt last year. He sits out about 23 games a season the past 3 seasons because of various injuries and he's not suddenly going to get healthier at 34

RalphSampsonJr · Post #3287 » by **RalphSampsonJr** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:48 am

Look im no CP3 fan but i think if you are all in on SGA and he is the future for OKC what better mentor than Paul?

spearsy23 · Post #3288 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:14 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:I'm not sure Presti isn't thinking about holding CP3 this season. Just imagine if OKC gets to the 2nd round next year behind CP3 and Gallinari while Houston misses the playoffs. How much can you get for CP3 next off-season? This trade adds a massive complication to my thinking. On the one hand, keeping CP3 gives you a strong chance of making the playoffs and giving up your pick to Philly and that is not ideal in a rebuild. However, you still have Denver's first and if CP3 rebounds his perceived value you have a huge asset to move that could yield a top 10 pick in the draft and more

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spearsy23 · Post #3289 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 am

Since of you apparently believe we're going to will 45+ of the sixty games Paul would play. That's cute.

oken · Post #3290 » by **oken** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:25 am

thor19 wrote:I think presti want two of the 3 young players miami had, and trading westbrook for only one prospect look bad but with cp3 things change we can just get winslow with james johnson and dragic or waiters and the trade will look better , i say give miami two picks and they include herro with that package and then at the deadline trade dragic

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Post #3291 » by **BBallFreak** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:36 am

thor19 wrote:I think presti want two of the 3 young players miami had, and trading westbrook for only one prospect look bad but with cp3 things change we can just get winslow with james johnson and dragic or waiters and the trade will look better , i say give miami two picks and they include herro with that package and then at the deadline trade dragic

You don't get Winslow or Herro from Miami for Chris Paul, even if you include picks. Picks mean very little to Miami. He has less value than Westbrook. The only way we take Paul is for Dragic/Waiters/JJ and our 2023 pick returned. CP3 can play, but he's also just as capable of missing half the season with a strained pinky.

Post #3292 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 am

Presti wasn't as heartbroken by George's request as some might believe, having experienced plenty of star departures before. If anything, there was pragmatic relief.

The disappointment stemmed more from the timing, because the Thunder were already in the middle of trying to execute their free-agency plan (re-signing Nerlens Noel, adding Mike Muscala and Alec Burks, who was allowed to reconsider his deal and sign with the Warriors instead).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27141139/the-rise-fall-okc-nba-small-market-miracle

Post #3293 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:01 am

Just woke up and realized Westbrook is gone, CP3 is an OKC player and I'm an Houston fan for some years to come. Don't know which hurts the most.

Post #3294 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:04 am

oh and btw reporters must hate Presti. They claim some things on national TV and they are ALWAYS wrong

thor19 · Post #3295 » by **thor19** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:36 am

I think presti is watching the cars programs when they pick a car and fliped for another car, he trade westbrook for cp3 now he trade cp3 for other assets and those assests he will trade at the end of the deadline :lol:

Old Man Game · Post #3296 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:16 am

So Chris Paul hasn't tweeted or said anything yet. Tells you he doesn't plan on being here.

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Old Man Game · Post #3297 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:18 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Presti wasn't as heartbroken by George's request as some might believe, having experienced plenty of star departures before. If anything, there was pragmatic relief.

The disappointment stemmed more from the timing, because the Thunder were already in the middle of trying to execute their free-agency plan (re-signing Nerlens Noel, adding Mike Muscala and Alec Burks, who was allowed to reconsider his deal and sign with the Warriors instead).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27141139/the-rise-fall-okc-nba-small-market-miracle

I don't understand what that top part means. Wasn't as heartbroken as some would have imagined. He's honestly not heartbroken by fact that the entire run is over?

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Post #3298 » by **slick_watts** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:32 am

royce's article is weird. he's taking some slight shots at westbrook. i don't get him. he was on windhorst's pod really playing up the idea that westbrook was using paul george's trade request as a way to get out himself. there's some heart string pulling schlock in the article too but as usual royce has all these opinions after someone is gone.

Post #3299 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:41 am

Old Man Game wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Presti wasn't as heartbroken by George's request as some might believe, having experienced plenty of star departures before. If anything, there was pragmatic relief.

The disappointment stemmed more from the timing, because the Thunder were already in the middle of trying to execute their free-agency plan (re-signing Nerlens Noel, adding Mike Muscala and Alec Burks, who was allowed to reconsider his deal and sign with the Warriors instead).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27141139/the-rise-fall-okc-nba-small-market-miracle
I don't understand what that top part means. Wasn't as heartbroken as some would have imagined. He's honestly not heartbroken by fact that the entire run is over?

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I believe Ramona Shelburne said something to the effect that Presti was crushed when George had asked for a trade. At one time it was being reported like the front office was devastated but this article makes it seem like they were relieved.

Old Man Game · Post #3300 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:43 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27141139/the-rise-fall-okc-nba-small-market-miracle
I don't understand what that top part means. Wasn't as heartbroken as some would have imagined. He's honestly not heartbroken by fact that the entire run is over?

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I believe Ramona Shelburne said something to the effect that Presti was crushed when George had asked for a trade. At one time it was being reported like the front office was devastated but this article makes it seem like they were relieved.

From the town mouthpiece. I think we can conclude then that they were certainly heartbroken and devastated.