Thunder Offseason Thread

[BlockCity]

Not paying tax. Why on earth would we attach an asset to get rid of Paul? I mean, salary dump him. But don't give anything away to do it.


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[Old Man Game]

If it all goes down in a three team trade then it’s easier to stomach. When you have those assets in your possession and use them to dump Paul it feels like a bit of a loss.

I understand but don't think about it that way. Morey might have been on a different timeline or had different considerations than we do in terms of moving Paul. Now we can take our time and we owe him nothing more than professional courtesy. It will be a three (or more) team trade in the end.

If a team like Miami is willing to trade for Paul for their bad salary and Houston’s picks, why doesn’t it happen in a three wya trade last night? Does Presti believe the demand for CP3 is that high that he can create leverage?

I don't know. You'd think it would, but there's probably a lot of inside baseball type stuff that goes on in these negotiations.

[Balkman32]

detroit??

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxl2deta
Then trade reggie to another team for a pick , orlando, boston, charlotte , kings , dallas , chicago

CP3 and Blake back together again...

The Thunder just creating these reunions...

[ThunderBolt]

The media’s idea that we lose all of these stars for nothing is beyond stupid. They act like all of these players walk away for nothing. The list of stars that we traded includes Ibaka, Oladipo and George as if we drafted each one and traded them for picks. No one has the common sense to understand that they were traded for each other.

[spearsy23]

I don't understand what that top part means. Wasn't as heartbroken as some would have imagined. He's honestly not heartbroken by fact that the entire run is over?

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I believe Ramona Shelburne said something to the effect that Presti was crushed when George had asked for a trade. At one time it was being reported like the front office was devastated but this article makes it seem like they were relieved.

From the town mouthpiece. I think we can conclude then that they were certainly heartbroken and devastated.

Does presti strike anyone as the type to be devastated by anything? The writing was on the wall, he was probably disappointed but somewhat relieved as it really cleared up his next moves.

[Old Man Game]

If Paul would agree to just sit on the shelf until Dec. 15th it might actually help him out (so long as he was actually working out and staying in shape). Like others have said the guy is perpetually injured. A shortened season could be beneficial for him.

[Old Man Game]

I believe Ramona Shelburne said something to the effect that Presti was crushed when George had asked for a trade. At one time it was being reported like the front office was devastated but this article makes it seem like they were relieved.

From the town mouthpiece. I think we can conclude then that they were certainly heartbroken and devastated.

Does presti strike anyone as the type to be devastated by anything? The writing was on the wall, he was probably disappointed but somewhat relieved as it really cleared up his next moves.

This was supposed to be a joke. I just thought that was funny, I can just see Presti or someone from the organization giving Royce notes, 'and another thing, Ramona said I was devastated. I wasn't devastated...'

[Balkman32]

CP3 + Schroeder is already giving me an headache

In an ideal world these two are dealt way before the season starts.

[spearsy23]

CP3 + Schroeder is already giving me an headache

In an ideal world these two are dealt way before the season starts.

I we can be pretty certain we're not living that fantasy.

[ThunderBolt]

I realize any thread not attaching tons of assets to move CP3 will be shot down on the GB but I can see Dallas having interest in him.

[Balkman32]

Who gets dealt first CP3 + Schroeder ?

[Dn4sty]

Read on Twitter

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No chance CP3 ends up in OKC now it appears.

[thor19]

Not paying tax. Why on earth would we attach an asset to get rid of Paul? I mean, salary dump him. But don't give anything away to do it.


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I dont care if we trade some picks and dump cp3 if we get some good players that we can used in the future , i think draft picks if are not lottery can be fools gold

[mr570]

If Miami wanted to trade just their expirings for Russ I can't imagine we'll be able to offload CP3 without tossing in some picks. Which is just bad. I hope Pat Riley feels like he got punked.

[Thundershock88]

Hang up the phone, Presti. It's so dumb to make a team better when you need their lottery picks

[Balkman32]

CP3 to the Heat for Winslow should be the main target here. They they can take on 2 of Dragic, Johnson, Olynyk, Waiters, and or Leonard.

I would like to take back Dragic since he only has one year left and hes a guy just like Gallo where if he is playing well he can get you another asset on the market.

Olynyk is also interesting as a lot of people had him mocked to the Thunder in 2012 when they took Adams.

While James Johnson and Dion Waiters don't make much sense at all on this team.

Is it true that the Heat cant take back more salary in a trade?

[Balkman32]

If Miami wanted to trade just their expirings for Russ I can't imagine we'll be able to offload CP3 without tossing in some picks. Which is just bad. I hope Pat Riley feels like he got punked.

I just don't think they wanted to gut their young guys. Which makes sense. In a deal for CP3 now they won't have to trade Bam, Herro, and/or their 25/26 first round pick.

If they miss on CP3 they can always go to plan C - Dennis Schroder!!!!

[Dadouv47]

C[b]P3 to the Heat for Winslow should be the main target here[/b]. They they can take on 2 of Dragic, Johnson, Olynyk, Waiters, and or Leonard.

I would like to take back Dragic since he only has one year left and hes a guy just like Gallo where if he is playing well he can get you another asset on the market.

Olynyk is also interesting as a lot of people had him mocked to the Thunder in 2012 when they took Adams.

While James Johnson and Dion Waiters don't make much sense at all on this team.

Is it true that the Heat cant take back more salary in a trade?

We would have to at least give a first round pick for that (and even that it won't be enough)

[Old Man Game]

Are Nader and Burton non-guaranteed deals? If so use them as salary ballast to allow Miami to take Paul AND lower their payroll slightly.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6o5ubgt

[slick_watts]

off-loading a pick or two to get out of chris paul's contract is fine. especially since we can choose worse picks than the ones we just got for westbrook. we'd still be improving our assets in a sense-- in a roundabout way. barry jackson a miami beat writer said today that sam presti was attempting to attach andre roberson to any westbrook to miami deal. this suggests that getting under the tax was a priority and that perhaps doing this chris paul trade first was a way to get the draft capital to make all the other stuff happen. it's a clever set of moves if it works out. if sam presti can get it done -without- attaching any picks then this is a legendary summer from him.