Thunder Offseason Thread

[BBallFreak]

I trust sardine insider with my life.

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

[spearsy23]

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Presti has Rat Piley by the balls

I trust sardine insider with my life.

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

[BBallFreak]

I trust sardine insider with my life.

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

I know it was a joke account, but I've seen posters on the general board suggesting Miami lift protections and add another pick, along with Winslow. That's just not happening.

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

Don't we all do that?

[Pillendreher]

I trust sardine insider with my life.

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

We wouldn't be in this mess if the front office had followed my lead. It's a shame, really.

[spearsy23]

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

I know it was a joke account, but I've seen posters on the general board suggesting Miami lift protections and add another pick, along with Winslow. That's just not happening.

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

Don't we all do that?

Sure, but we don't all go on other team's boards, look at a joke post, and go 'psh, I wouldn't even trade my trash for your player.' when our front office clearly has interest.

[thekaoswithin]

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

We wouldn't be in this mess if the front office had followed my lead. It's a shame, really.

10+ picks and solid future, what's the mess here Pill?

[spearsy23]

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

On the one hand: *whoosh*

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

We wouldn't be in this mess if the front office had followed my lead. It's a shame, really.

Is Aaron afflalo available?

[jake_swivel]

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

[slick_watts]

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

the incentive for miami will be to get out of two large 2020-21 salaries. one of those salaries (+ dragic) goes to the thunder and one to a third team which the thunder will compensate using some of the draft capital they've acquired. so miami gets chris paul to replace goran dragic and gets out of something like $30 million of salary next season. this is how i see it happening.

[spearsy23]

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

[BBallFreak]

On the one hand: *whoosh*

I know it was a joke account, but I've seen posters on the general board suggesting Miami lift protections and add another pick, along with Winslow. That's just not happening.

On the other: it's always hilarious when fans speak about what "/I/ wouldn't do" as though it has any bearing on what the front office of their team is doing.

Don't we all do that?

Sure, but we don't all go on other team's boards, look at a joke post, and go 'psh, I wouldn't even trade my trash for your player.' when our front office clearly has interest.

DJJ is NOT trash, and forgive me for coming to your board. I was hoping to engage in actual discussion with people who didn't think Miami should be getting your entire stockpile of first rounders, as well as your first born children, in exchange for taking Paul. I won't make that mistake again. Peace out.

[spearsy23]

I know it was a joke account, but I've seen posters on the general board suggesting Miami lift protections and add another pick, along with Winslow. That's just not happening.


Don't we all do that?

Sure, but we don't all go on other team's boards, look at a joke post, and go 'psh, I wouldn't even trade my trash for your player.' when our front office clearly has interest.

DJJ is NOT trash, and forgive me for coming to your board. I was hoping to engage in actual discussion with people who didn't think Miami should be getting your entire stockpile of first rounders, as well as your first born children, in exchange for taking Paul. I won't make that mistake again. Peace out.

Very few of us (except kizz, who has flanderized himself) believe we'll get ANYTHING for Paul. We'd consider it a win if we break him into smaller contacts and don't give up an asset to do it.

If you were hoping for actual discussion, maybe don't lead with 'LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly...'

[jake_swivel]

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

It is, but my assumption was that the protection was declining. It isn’t one of those “turns into 2 second rounders” picks, is it? If so, then yeah, they could package either one (but not both) and I’d be good with it. If it’s declining protection, no way, though. If you’re patient, that’s gold.

[jake_swivel]

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

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Lotto protected until 26 and then unprotected.

[spearsy23]

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

It is, but my assumption was that the protection was declining. It isn’t one of those “turns into 2 second rounders” picks, is it? If so, then yeah, they could package either one (but not both) and I’d be good with it. If it’s declining protection, no way, though. If you’re patient, that’s gold.

I'd be surprised if Miami is in the lotto 4 years in a row. They've shown no inclination to rebuild, though Riley will (may?) be gone by then.

[jake_swivel]

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

It is, but my assumption was that the protection was declining. It isn’t one of those “turns into 2 second rounders” picks, is it? If so, then yeah, they could package either one (but not both) and I’d be good with it. If it’s declining protection, no way, though. If you’re patient, that’s gold.

I'd be surprised if Miami is in the lotto 4 years in a row. They've shown no inclination to rebuild, though Riley will (may?) be gone by then.

You’re probably right there. My assumption was that it was declining. That significantly decreases its value.

[jpake1]

As a Heat fan, I fail to see why on earth MIA would trade for CP3... even if it included our two 1st RD picks coming back. He doesn't make this team a legit contender to win a ring and his last year would kill any chance MIA would have in a stacked FA class. I'm curious to see where CP3 goes though. I feel like it'll be real hard to trade him since I don't see too many real competitors that believe CP3 gives them a great chance. However, there is always a trade out there the general public doesn't see.

[spearsy23]

I do wonder if we could leverage Miami's position to get them to remove protections on that pick. It has better value to us and would allow them to trade the 2025 pick for an upgrade over the next couple of years.

[spearsy23]

I don't believe keeping Paul is an option, but a Paul/SGA/x/Gallo/Adams lineup would be a fun one to watch. Even CP3/SGA/Gallo/Muscala/Adams could be decent.

[Old Man Game]

I don't believe keeping Paul is an option, but a Paul/SGA/x/Gallo/Adams lineup would be a fun one to watch. Even CP3/SGA/Gallo/Muscala/Adams could be decent.

In a certain sense its unfortunate that Paul is not on board, because I think that team might be the ideal mix of watchable but ultimately lottery bound that we need.