Thunder Offseason Thread

[mr570]

I know this is way out of left field but everyone here was wrong about Matisse Thybulle. He is good.

[spearsy23]

I know this is way out of left field but everyone here was wrong about Matisse Thybulle. He is good.

Did people here have strong opinions about him?

[mr570]

I know this is way out of left field but everyone here was wrong about Matisse Thybulle. He is good.

Did people here have strong opinions about him?

Not sure if it was here or r/Thunder but I remember a lot of "Oh no not another Josh Heustis!"

[Dadouv47]

I trust sardine insider with my life.

LMAO! You guys can trade him elsewhere, then. He has less value than Westbrook. You cannot honestly expect him to fetch that kind of return. No clue who this Sardine guy is, but he's very very wrong if he thinks Riley gives up talent like that for a $40 million/per year Chris Paul who can only stay on the court for 3/4 of a season. Sorry guys, nothing personal, but this is clearly a smokescreen, trying to drive up the price. At this point, I wouldn't even include Derrick Jones Jr...

you're going to get chris paul and you are not going to like it. i'm sorry. prepare yourself.

Rofl Slick. We often disagree on many things but I hope you are correct about this

[Dadouv47]

That Sardine insider wasn't saying so many false stuff about Westbrook going to Miami?

[Balkman32]

Oh, I'm resigned to that. What I'm not resigned to is giving up value for him.

Almost certainly won’t have to give up value, but the Miami board is wanting multiple picks back and I don’t see that happening. Denver’s first, one or two second rounders for expiring is about as far as I’d go. I could see Presti maybe giving back your 21 first, but no way on the 23 first. That pick has too much potential with the age of your roster. I wouldn’t be super stoked about it, but I’d understand it from a business perspective.

I believe the '23 is lotto protected

Until 2026, then it becomes unprotected.

[jake_swivel]

As a Heat fan, I fail to see why on earth MIA would trade for CP3... even if it included our two 1st RD picks coming back. He doesn't make this team a legit contender to win a ring and his last year would kill any chance MIA would have in a stacked FA class. I'm curious to see where CP3 goes though. I feel like it'll be real hard to trade him since I don't see too many real competitors that believe CP3 gives them a great chance. However, there is always a trade out there the general public doesn't see.

I’d be thinking the same thing as a heat fan, but also, your team is in a weird spot. They seem capped out as a second round out, even if you manage to somehow get Beal (which seems unlikely to me). I understand swinging for the fences and hoping for the best with either Paul or Westbrook, but both seem like bad moves. Hope you guys wanna do it, though!

Also, I really don’t understand how highly herro and bam are valued by you guys. Really strange.

[Dadouv47]

Couple of questions :
1. From the picks we got from Houston, if one is top 4, does he become unprotected the year after that?
2. If we need to give up a pick, could we send the 2022 protected pick that may go to the Hawks?
3. If we need to send a firt pick, which would be the best one to send? (for us) 2022 clippers pick?

[Rapaz]

That Sardine insider wasn't saying so many false stuff about Westbrook going to Miami?

No. Sardine never suggested Westbrook to Miami; in fact, just the opposite:

Read on Twitter

[jake_swivel]

Couple of questions :
1. From the picks we got from Houston, if one is top 4, does he become unprotected the year after that?
2. If we need to give up a pick, could we send the 2022 protected pick that may go to the Hawks?
3. If we need to send a firt pick, which would be the best one to send? (for us) 2022 clippers pick?

1. I don’t think that’s known yet (correct me if I’m wrong)

2. (Edited) I’m pretty sure they could trade it with reverse protection, meaning that it conveys if they get a lotto pick but goes to the hawks if it doesn’t. They’d need to have the protection as declining or turning into whatever 2nd round picks wouldn’t be owed to the hawks.

3. Denver’s pick this year is guaranteed to be early/mid twenties. Then I’d say the first clippers pick. Then the first Miami pick.

[ThunderBolt]

That Sardine insider wasn't saying so many false stuff about Westbrook going to Miami?

No. Sardine never suggested Westbrook to Miami; in fact, just the opposite:

Read on Twitter

You are sardine, aren't you?

[Rapaz]

You are sardine, aren't you?

No. Sardine is a poster on the Heat board who goes by ”Iggie CC.”

[spearsy23]

You are sardine, aren't you?

No. Sardine is a poster on the Heat board who goes by ”Iggie CC.”

Does he have a legitimate source within the team?

[Dadouv47]

You are sardine, aren't you?

No. Sardine is a poster on the Heat board who goes by ”Iggie CC.”

thank you! Good to know!

I was a heat fan for 24 hours but then Westbrook went to Houston . I prefer your fanbase but will have to root for the Rockets now (unbelievable)

[Dadouv47]

I really hope that Sardine is right because I'm starting to dream about what kind of package we can get (not anything crazy but we are talking about an old CP3)

[Dadouv47]

Couple of questions :
1. From the picks we got from Houston, if one is top 4, does he become unprotected the year after that?
2. If we need to give up a pick, could we send the 2022 protected pick that may go to the Hawks?
3. If we need to send a firt pick, which would be the best one to send? (for us) 2022 clippers pick?

1. I don’t think that’s known yet (correct me if I’m wrong)

2. No

3. Denver’s pick this year is guaranteed to be early/mid twenties. Then I’d say the first clippers pick. Then the first Miami pick.

Thought about the Denver pick but it would be nice to draft several young players next year. Don't want to wait 2026. Clippers 2022 pick would make the most sense to me.

[Old Man Game]

You are sardine, aren't you?

No. Sardine is a poster on the Heat board who goes by ”Iggie CC.”

Does he have a legitimate source within the team?

How would we know if he did beyond his word and why would it be any better than his word on Twitter?

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[spearsy23]

No. Sardine is a poster on the Heat board who goes by ”Iggie CC.”

Does he have a legitimate source within the team?

How would we know if he did beyond his word and why would it be any better than his word on Twitter?

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A consistent track record of being able to confirm/break reports on that board would point to him having some type of source. I have no previous knowledge of the poster or his Twitter account, or the time or inclination to dig through his history, so I'll asking someone familiar with him.

[Dadouv47]

I really hope that Sardine is right because I'm starting to dream about what kind of package we can get (not anything crazy but we are talking about an old CP3)

In the meantime Barry Jackson (more followers but is he legit?) says that the Heat isn't aggressively getting after CP3.

[jake_swivel]

Couple of questions :
1. From the picks we got from Houston, if one is top 4, does he become unprotected the year after that?
2. If we need to give up a pick, could we send the 2022 protected pick that may go to the Hawks?
3. If we need to send a firt pick, which would be the best one to send? (for us) 2022 clippers pick?

1. I don’t think that’s known yet (correct me if I’m wrong)

2. No

3. Denver’s pick this year is guaranteed to be early/mid twenties. Then I’d say the first clippers pick. Then the first Miami pick.

Thought about the Denver pick but it would be nice to draft several young players next year. Don't want to wait 2026. Clippers 2022 pick would make the most sense to me.

I misread your post regarding question 2. I’m pretty sure they could trade it with reverse protection, meaning that it conveys if they get a lotto pick but goes to the hawks if it doesn’t. They’d need to have the protection as declining or turning into whatever 2nd round picks wouldn’t be owed to the hawks.