2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

[CWebb2491]

yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul

Enjoy going back to Seattle

why being a jerk? I really hope OKC and Miami can make a deal but no way Presi will give up 2 first round picks (maybe one) because we won't have cap space issues while rebuilding.
Oh and I understand Miami fans that don't want CP3 at all. I never said that you guys should trade for him. I wouldn't...

We have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years and SGA is legit. It will take a while for us to rebuild but we will be fine.

You're right I apologize. Just wanted Brodie and thought we were going to get him for expirings :/ But you guys will be fine, with all those picks you're bound to get quality players with trades, good drafting and maybe hit with a star player. I love Pat but he trades our picks like candy, and as you can see the league values picks for star players.

[heatwillbeback]

We have of found Paul’s price to leave purgatory.

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[Dadouv47]

Enjoy going back to Seattle

why being a jerk? I really hope OKC and Miami can make a deal but no way Presi will give up 2 first round picks (maybe one) because we won't have cap space issues while rebuilding.
Oh and I understand Miami fans that don't want CP3 at all. I never said that you guys should trade for him. I wouldn't...

We have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years and SGA is legit. It will take a while for us to rebuild but we will be fine.

Off Topic: Do you think the fact that you're now a rebuilding team is going to affect attendance rates in OKC?
You've been pretty blessed having a playoff team for 10 years now.

of course it will, mainly because attendance was sky high during 10 years. So sure it's going to be lower for a while but I think OKC fans are loyal in a city that doesn't have much attraction so I don't think OKC will suffer so much time for low attendance. Selling shirts may be a different story

On the other hand Houston is contending for years and they have one of the most empty arena in the NBA (don't think Westbrook going there will change that) so I guess it's about the city and their culture.

Guess OKC will mostly suffer from lack of media attention (no more national TV games, no more products etc.) but I think having so many picks and flexibility is going to help us tremendously to get a good team in the near future.

In the end it's a great offseason for us (if I don't take into account the emotional aspect of it because Westbrook is my favorite player and PG13 is a beauty to watch) because next season is going to be really tough with many teams contending and we didn't have cap space to improve so it's better to rebuild now with many assets than letting WB & PG13 walk for nothing in a near future.

[CWebb2491]

We have of found Paul’s price to leave purgatory.

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If he truly is the competitor he says he is we will. Or else his career will wind down on a rebuilding team. Who's taking that contract? Any teams who are in or near contention? Nope we're the closest thing. With those picks we can trade for a disgruntled star this upcoming season. Jimmy, Paul, Third star, 2 of Winslow, Bam,Herro is a contender for sure. If our young men live up to their potential we got a team built for long term success even after Jimmy and Paul retire

[SoFlaKingReal]

The fact that the thunder completely wasted the tenure of all these HOF players is mind boggling.

[MiamiLoyal926]

I see no pathway for the Thunder to get out from under that Paul deal unless they include two first round picks. I'm looking down the line, and there isn't a single team that doesn't already have a long term plan at point guard or significant resources already in the position.

You gon' have to pay up, now Presti. Or eat that deal.

When the owner signed on to the Paul deal they knew full well they were going to end up keeping Paul. They got two first round picks for there troubles and are about to get under the tax line. They will surround that contract with a bunch of cheap talented labor in the near future.

yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul

You do owe him something... 3 years and about 120 mil. That’s now your contract to worry about. You either ride it out or get rid of him.

For us, we definitely don’t owe him anything, nor do we have the dire need to get him. Would we consider it? Yeah sure, but it’s gonna cost you for us to liberate you from what you owe him. Otherwise, carry that heavy contract through your first few years of a rebuild and hope that he doesn’t get injured or look much worse, cause the longer you wait, the worse that contract is going to get. We know that, thus why their is a steep price to pay for him.

The truth is that Westbrook’s value was so low it literally netted them a worse asset and a few picks to swallow that worse asset. Guess what... you either swallow that asset or keep those sweeteners flowing on to the next team willing to swallow that contract.

[Dadouv47]

Enjoy going back to Seattle

why being a jerk? I really hope OKC and Miami can make a deal but no way Presi will give up 2 first round picks (maybe one) because we won't have cap space issues while rebuilding.
Oh and I understand Miami fans that don't want CP3 at all. I never said that you guys should trade for him. I wouldn't...

We have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years and SGA is legit. It will take a while for us to rebuild but we will be fine.

You're right I apologize. Just wanted Brodie and thought we were going to get him for expirings :/ But you guys will be fine, with all those picks you're bound to get quality players with trades, good drafting and maybe hit with a star player. I love Pat but he trades our picks like candy, and as you can see the league values picks for star players.

No problem. I really wanted Brodie to join Miami (my price was Winslow ). I like your organization and feel he could have learned a lot wish Spo and Pat Riley.

Presti fooled us all and in the end Houston was his n°1 destination (Miami was probably number 2) so yeah I will have to cheer for a team that I hate

[SoFlaKingReal]

In the end, Westbrook had little to no trade value. For reference, Houston offered FOUR first round picks for Jimmy Butler in November.

[twix2500]

Aight so we are back to square 2

PG: Goran Dragic - Kendrick Nunn
SG: Jimmy Butler - Dion Waiters - Tyler Herro
SF: Justise Winslow - Derrick Jones Jr - Duncan Robinson
PF: Kelly Olynyk - James Johnson - Kezie Okpala
Ce: Bam Adebayo - Meyer Leonard - Yante Maten

Solid Playoff team and depending on how good of playoff team depends on how good Winslow and Bam become.

[miamiballer]

I think that the plan is to wait around for a disgruntled star to demand a trade

If not in 2021, we will have the following players under contract: winslow, bam, herro, jimmy butler and okpala and with rhinos dead cap, we are looking at about 53 mil in cap space (enough for one max and 20 mil left). If we trade Winslow for cap space that offseason which shouldn’t be an issue we could technically have about 66 mil (enough for 2 max) to add to a core of jimmy, bam, hero and okpala

Fas that offseason can include Beal, giannis, gobert among others, let’s say we add Beal and gobert and trade off Winslow

Gobert
Bam
Jimmy
Beal
Herro


Now that I think of it, Westbrook takes us out of the running for a max in 2021 and so does Paul and it’s not worth it in my opinion

[twix2500]

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[Heat_team02]

Chris Paul trade rumors: Heat not aggressively pursuing a deal for veteran point guard, per report

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-heat-not-aggressively-pursuing-a-deal-for-veteran-point-guard-per-report/

[twix2500]

Chris Paul trade rumors: Heat not aggressively pursuing a deal for veteran point guard, per report

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-heat-not-aggressively-pursuing-a-deal-for-veteran-point-guard-per-report/

They are just reporting Barry Jackson's tweet

[Kobewade11]

Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”



all hype all meat beat hype

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.

this probably wont stop the fairy tale trade scenarios in here. I for one am excited about the team we have.

[Bhut Jolokia]

I think that the plan is to wait around for a disgruntled star to demand a trade

If not in 2021, we will have the following players under contract: winslow, bam, herro, jimmy butler and okpala and with rhinos dead cap, we are looking at about 53 mil in cap space (enough for one max and 20 mil left). If we trade Winslow for cap space that offseason which shouldn’t be an issue we could technically have about 66 mil (enough for 2 max) to add to a core of jimmy, bam, hero and okpala

Fas that offseason can include Beal, giannis, gobert among others, let’s say we add Beal and gobert and trade off Winslow

Gobert
Bam
Jimmy
Beal
Herro


Now that I think of it, Westbrook takes us out of the running for a max in 2021 and so does Paul and it’s not worth it in my opinion

Yeah, I would rather just wait until 2021 to sign Beal and Gobert so that we don’t have to lose any other players in a trade.

Winslow
Beal
Butler
Bam
Gobert

[Flash4thewin]

I think that the plan is to wait around for a disgruntled star to demand a trade

If not in 2021, we will have the following players under contract: winslow, bam, herro, jimmy butler and okpala and with rhinos dead cap, we are looking at about 53 mil in cap space (enough for one max and 20 mil left). If we trade Winslow for cap space that offseason which shouldn’t be an issue we could technically have about 66 mil (enough for 2 max) to add to a core of jimmy, bam, hero and okpala

Fas that offseason can include Beal, giannis, gobert among others, let’s say we add Beal and gobert and trade off Winslow

Gobert
Bam
Jimmy
Beal
Herro


Now that I think of it, Westbrook takes us out of the running for a max in 2021 and so does Paul and it’s not worth it in my opinion

Yeah, I would rather just wait until 2021 to sign Beal and Gobert so that we don’t have to lose any other players in a trade.

Winslow
Beal
Butler
Bam
Gobert

Odds are they both sign extension. Beal might qualify for a super max, but since they gave it Wall i dont think he could get it. Still he will get paid. Gobert seems happy so it seems like a hard sell.

[dean456]

I think you need a shooter in that starting lineup. Winslow might be best coming off the bench again.

Paul, Butler, Winslow and Olynyk can shoot. Defenders have to stay on them at the 3 point line so the spacing is fine.

So now Winslow can shoot lol
Sorry twix but Winslow is a prayer as of today when shooting although his dribble penetration has gotten really good recently, and that to me cancels WB when considering age and contract.

Now if we are looking at a shooter/finisher off the dribble Dragic is better suited.

I don’t care for CP3 due to his contract and age. Dragic has only one more year left. That is an asset.

Don't know what Justise Winslow you were watching last season.

[HEATVols865]

Have Wade tell Paul: remove your player option and Miami will trade for you. Don’t do it and you’re screwed bro.

[Heat3]

Woj gotta be on the OKC payroll too, pushing this cp3 to miami business.

I’ve seen proposals of us giving up Winslow and a #1?! LOL. Hell no!

I’m good with Dragic. Hell I’m even good with giving him 1 more year next off season if he wants it.

[Flash4thewin]

Have Wade tell Paul: remove your player option and Miami will trade for you. Don’t do it and you’re screwed bro.

In what universe is keeping 44+ Million = you're screwed bro?